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#51 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

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@mrtummytumms: You are exaggerating.

That's actually pretty hilarious coming from you.

Why?. Like if i have never given any reasons to why i say any of things i say. Your belief that WW fans complain about everything and that they never have a valid reason to complain is the only thing here that is hilarious.

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#52 Posted by righteous300 (3975 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:
@mrtummytumms said:
@agent41 said:

@mrtummytumms: You are exaggerating.

That's actually pretty hilarious coming from you.

Why?. Like if i have never given any reasons to why i say any of things i say. Your belief that WW fans complain about everything and that they never have a valid reason to complain is the only thing here that is hilarious.

Exaggerating and overreacting pretty much sums up this thread.

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#53 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

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I'm not trying to lowball, it's just the way I see him ... I'm absolutely open to Trigon being some massively powerful being, but to be truthful I don't see the purpose for another cosmic entity in the DCU.

I just don't think they've ever really depicted him as such, seriously I find it hard to take him seriously at this level when he's been beaten by a bunch of teen heroes with less than spectacular powers.

I guess it boils down not particularly caring for the concept of Trigon, I just think he's something of a boring villain to be honest.

Well I could argue that he is not 'another cosmic entity', because he was pretty close to being the first one. If you go through Wolfman's description of him, you would find that when he came up with him, characters like that hadn't really come into prominence yet (which only really started happening after COIE).

They have, more than once actually, it's part of the reason stories with Trigon in it are normally centered around trying to stop him from ever getting to Earth because he is nearly unstoppable if he makes it. Regarding how he's been defeated... their ages isn't a worthy argument, like how many times has Darkseid been defeated by people who are a tiny fraction of his own age of approx 250.000 years? As for powers... let me point out that they are basically using the same setup as the Justice League, so knocking the Titans for that is knocking the League for theirs. And again, the only reason Trigon was defeated once he made it to Earth, was because he wandered into a trap that had been a thousand years in the making, he didn't just get punched in the head before retreating.

Well that might be true, but down to personal tastes. He fills the slot of the Devil invading with a demon army in DC adequately.

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#54 Edited by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:
@mrtummytumms said:
@agent41 said:

@mrtummytumms: You are exaggerating.

That's actually pretty hilarious coming from you.

Why?. Like if i have never given any reasons to why i say any of things i say. Your belief that WW fans complain about everything and that they never have a valid reason to complain is the only thing here that is hilarious.

Exaggerating and overreacting pretty much sums up this thread.

Not really. Fans are tired of seeing her as somebody that only cares about fighting. New 52 has not done a good job showing the different aspects of her character. And the none existence effort to make more balanced battles don't help either. Powrhouse vs a street leveler?, really?.

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#55 Edited by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio

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@csg_cl said:

I'm not trying to lowball, it's just the way I see him ... I'm absolutely open to Trigon being some massively powerful being, but to be truthful I don't see the purpose for another cosmic entity in the DCU.

I just don't think they've ever really depicted him as such, seriously I find it hard to take him seriously at this level when he's been beaten by a bunch of teen heroes with less than spectacular powers.

I guess it boils down not particularly caring for the concept of Trigon, I just think he's something of a boring villain to be honest.

Well I could argue that he is not 'another cosmic entity', because he was pretty close to being the first one. If you go through Wolfman's description of him, you would find that when he came up with him, characters like that hadn't really come into prominence yet (which only really started happening after COIE).

They have, more than once actually, it's part of the reason stories with Trigon in it are normally centered around trying to stop him from ever getting to Earth because he is nearly unstoppable if he makes it. Regarding how he's been defeated... their ages isn't a worthy argument, like how many times has Darkseid been defeated by people who are a tiny fraction of his own age of approx 250.000 years? As for powers... let me point out that they are basically using the same setup as the Justice League, so knocking the Titans for that is knocking the League for theirs. And again, the only reason Trigon was defeated once he made it to Earth, was because he wandered into a trap that had been a thousand years in the making, he didn't just get punched in the head before retreating.

Well that might be true, but down to personal tastes. He fills the slot of the Devil invading with a demon army in DC adequately.

Meh ... it's not about how long he's been around relative to others, I just don't like most of the cosmic/god/devil/etc ... characters particularly worth reading about. In the end they are all "limitless" or something and can only be defeated by some thousand year old trap blah blah blah ... even with really well done art and writing it's a story I've never found dynamic. I prefer villains that are more personal. Joker, Cheetah, Circe, Catwoman, Lex Luthor, Riddler, Sinestro etc.... all of these villains are compelling to me because they in some way reflect our favorite heroes. There might be a chance to redeem them or perhaps they will eventually convert a hero. I enjoy this type of storytelling far more than the unstoppable cosmic force.

I like the Titans. I like the New Titans. I just find it silly that they get set up in situations like these. Give them situations more relevant to who they are instead of making them Justice League Jr. edition. I liked the 1980's NTT more when they had personal dramas going on, themes like coming out of the shadow of a mentor (yes I can see the link with Trigon here), or facing divorce and drug addiction and issues of trusting each other etc ... they could do a lot with a group of young heroes, this storyline feels rather bland IMO. I'm sure I'll be entertained by it, and I can hope that they make this more than a "Damian Wayne is a badass" story. BatJr is a great character, but I'd like to see development of others.

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#56 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl said:

Meh ... it's not about how long he's been around relative to others, I just don't like most of the cosmic/god/devil/etc ... characters particularly worth reading about. In the end they are all "limitless" or something and can only be defeated by some thousand year old trap blah blah blah ... even with really well done art and writing it's a story I've never found dynamic. I prefer villains that are more personal. Joker, Cheetah, Circe, Catwoman, Lex Luthor, Riddler, Sinestro etc.... all of these villains are compelling to me because they in some way reflect our favorite heroes. There might be a chance to redeem them or perhaps they will eventually convert a hero. I enjoy this type of storytelling far more than the unstoppable cosmic force.

I like the Titans. I like the New Titans. I just find it silly that they get set up in situations like these. Give them situations more relevant to who they are instead of making them Justice League Jr. edition. I liked the 1980's NTT more when they had personal dramas going on, themes like coming out of the shadow of a mentor (yes I can see the link with Trigon here), or facing divorce and drug addiction and issues of trusting each other etc ... they could do a lot with a group of young heroes, this storyline feels rather bland IMO. I'm sure I'll be entertained by it, and I can hope that they make this more than a "Damian Wayne is a badass" story. BatJr is a great character, but I'd like to see development of others.

Thats all fair. Though it has to be said Trigon probably couldn't get any more personal for Raven, since he is her dad and is constantly trying to sway her to his side.

The problem with that is that a personal story like those you are suggesting most likely wouldn't work (due to time constraints) or sell with an audience that expects superhero fights. As for the story, true enough, it's not a reinvention of the wheel or going to blow anyone's mind philosophically... but I could ask if any of DC's animated projects have actually done that?

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#57 Edited by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl said:

Meh ... it's not about how long he's been around relative to others, I just don't like most of the cosmic/god/devil/etc ... characters particularly worth reading about. In the end they are all "limitless" or something and can only be defeated by some thousand year old trap blah blah blah ... even with really well done art and writing it's a story I've never found dynamic. I prefer villains that are more personal. Joker, Cheetah, Circe, Catwoman, Lex Luthor, Riddler, Sinestro etc.... all of these villains are compelling to me because they in some way reflect our favorite heroes. There might be a chance to redeem them or perhaps they will eventually convert a hero. I enjoy this type of storytelling far more than the unstoppable cosmic force.

I like the Titans. I like the New Titans. I just find it silly that they get set up in situations like these. Give them situations more relevant to who they are instead of making them Justice League Jr. edition. I liked the 1980's NTT more when they had personal dramas going on, themes like coming out of the shadow of a mentor (yes I can see the link with Trigon here), or facing divorce and drug addiction and issues of trusting each other etc ... they could do a lot with a group of young heroes, this storyline feels rather bland IMO. I'm sure I'll be entertained by it, and I can hope that they make this more than a "Damian Wayne is a badass" story. BatJr is a great character, but I'd like to see development of others.

Thats all fair. Though it has to be said Trigon probably couldn't get any more personal for Raven, since he is her dad and is constantly trying to sway her to his side.

The problem with that is that a personal story like those you are suggesting most likely wouldn't work (due to time constraints) or sell with an audience that expects superhero fights. As for the story, true enough, it's not a reinvention of the wheel or going to blow anyone's mind philosophically... but I could ask if any of DC's animated projects have actually done that?

Well I'm talking more personal to the viewer/reader too ... i.e. I can put myself in their shoes and understand their motivations a little bit.

Your second point is why I am certain I'll be entertained by the movie. It'll be action packed and visually exciting which is really the main focus for an animated film of this nature. I think DC tried to do a little more with a few DCAU things like the WW film and the SM/BM features and to a smaller degree Crisis on Two Earths. How well they succeeded is whole other point!

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#58 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl said:

Well I'm talking more personal to the viewer/reader too ... i.e. I can put myself in their shoes and understand their motivations a little bit.

Your second point is why I am certain I'll be entertained by the movie. It'll be action packed and visually exciting which is really the main focus for an animated film of this nature. I think DC tried to do a little more with a few DCAU things like the WW film and the SM/BM features and to a smaller degree Crisis on Two Earths. How well they succeeded is whole other point!

Ah well I could say that this happening is rather rare, it happened a few times in the old TT cartoon, once or twice in BTAS but otherwise it's rare.

Hmm, I am not sure I see the same.... I get Owlman and his rather demented logic about choice, but not the others I've watched.

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#59 Posted by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl said:

Well I'm talking more personal to the viewer/reader too ... i.e. I can put myself in their shoes and understand their motivations a little bit.

Your second point is why I am certain I'll be entertained by the movie. It'll be action packed and visually exciting which is really the main focus for an animated film of this nature. I think DC tried to do a little more with a few DCAU things like the WW film and the SM/BM features and to a smaller degree Crisis on Two Earths. How well they succeeded is whole other point!

Ah well I could say that this happening is rather rare, it happened a few times in the old TT cartoon, once or twice in BTAS but otherwise it's rare.

Hmm, I am not sure I see the same.... I get Owlman and his rather demented logic about choice, but not the others I've watched.

fair enough ... it's not like it's award winning stuff :)

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#60 Posted by entropy_aegis (20908 posts) - - Show Bio

Whining about a character losing in an adaptation is just stupid. Maybe people here should watch previous DC cartoons or in fact any cartoon with any comic character. I have seen Galactus get stomped by Ghost Rider,I have seen a normal bomb almost kill a Green Lantern,I have seen electricity fell Superman,I have seen Joker own Grundy and a lot more. No one gives a crap about comic power levels and no one in unbeatable,there is no defined hierarchy in adaptations.

People these days get waay too worked over who wins fight, this is mostly true for DC fans especially. Wonder Woman's problem is that she HAS to be there for the sake of it and same goes for Superman,they even removed GL and Shazam as if to prove my point.If she did skip this film her fans would have still thrown a fit over her not being included. If every member of the League is gonna lose and get mind controlled then you betcha WW will as well,Batman too has already lost to Damian,why should she be the exception?

Either way this film has the best creative team out of all the movies that have been produced in the last few years. I wish they just pump out Batman flicks all the time so that we'd be done with this non sense. DC fans are their own worst enemies.

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#61 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Fans in general complain when a powerhouse loses to a street leveler. Even if it's an animated movie that has nothing to do with the comics, it's even worse in cases like this, because people are like. "why didn't superman and WW fight superboy or starfire or Raven?, at least they are far more credible as a threat than peak humans".

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#62 Posted by entropy_aegis (20908 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:

@entropy_aegis: Fans in general complain when a powerhouse loses to a street leveler. Even if it's an animated movie that has nothing to do with the comics, it's even worse in cases like this, because people are like. "why didn't superman and WW fight superboy or starfire or Raven?, at least they are far more credible as a threat than peak humans".

Except we dont know who fights who,Damian dodging a simple sword swipe=nothing special on his part. It's how it is,its how it always has been,so why complain?

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#63 Posted by Archizooom (2175 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Says you, from a place of privilege, Batman's got his own separate line of movies, gets an extra special treatment within the Justice League, happy days. What's in it for me though, can't say I'm looking forward to seeing this redneck Wonder Woman canoodle with Superman some more, possessed by a demon, beaten by children...if they're not gonna put the teeniest, weeniest bit of thought towards Wonder Woman, they might as well leave her out next time as far as I'm concerned

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#64 Posted by entropy_aegis (20908 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Says you, from a place of privilege, Batman's got his own separate line of movies, gets an extra special treatment within the Justice League, happy days. What's in it for me though, can't say I'm looking forward to seeing this redneck Wonder Woman canoodle with Superman some more, possessed by a demon, beaten by children...if they're not gonna put the teeniest, weeniest bit of thought towards Wonder Woman, they might as well leave her out next time as far as I'm concerned

The last 2 JL movies barely had Batman,his own flicks have turned in to Damian movies while the last one was about Nightwing and Batwoman. Assault on Arkham was about Suicide Squad. In case you haven't noticed the Trinity has taken a back seat for the last few years. These new projects have been about pushing other characters.

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#65 Edited by Archizooom (2175 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Yeah? But Batman was still portrayed with a lot of dignity in those movies, in the ones I saw anyway. He didn't show up in Assault on Arkham just to job, did he

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#66 Posted by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:

@entropy_aegis: Fans in general complain when a powerhouse loses to a street leveler. Even if it's an animated movie that has nothing to do with the comics, it's even worse in cases like this, because people are like. "why didn't superman and WW fight superboy or starfire or Raven?, at least they are far more credible as a threat than peak humans".

Except we dont know who fights who,Damian dodging a simple sword swipe=nothing special on his part. It's how it is,its how it always has been,so why complain?

except that he dodges a simple sword swipe from an individual who supposedly moves faster than SM and is one of the greatest fighters in the DCU. The fact that WW is capable of tagging the Flash, yet a peak human can dodge her blows is and always has been ridiculous. For the record I'd call this nitpicking not complaining ... it's just one more example of DC/WB making Batboy look good by nerfing other characters. The same promo talks about Damian being able to take down SM.

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#67 Posted by kiba (3743 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: you should seriously just abandon this thread like I am. We've tried being reasonable and it's obviously not going to work. I had just poked my head in to see if things had improved and sadly they haven't.

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#68 Posted by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio

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@entropy_aegis: you should seriously just abandon this thread like I am. We've tried being reasonable and it's obviously not going to work. I had just poked my head in to see if things had improved and sadly they haven't.

bye Felicia

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#69 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@kiba: That's exaggerating. New 52 divided fans of WW in a way i never thought would be possible. And fans in general complain when a powerhouse loses to a street leveler. Even if it's an animated movie that has nothing to do with the comics, it's even worse in cases like this, because people are like. "why didn't superman and WW fight superboy or starfire or Raven?, at least they are far more credible as a threat than peak humans".

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#70 Posted by deactivated-59dfd33ed3601 (5575 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl said:
@kiba said:

@entropy_aegis: you should seriously just abandon this thread like I am. We've tried being reasonable and it's obviously not going to work. I had just poked my head in to see if things had improved and sadly they haven't.

bye Felicia

One of my favorite lines to use :)

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#71 Posted by deactivated-59dfd33ed3601 (5575 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Says you, from a place of privilege, Batman's got his own separate line of movies, gets an extra special treatment within the Justice League, happy days. What's in it for me though, can't say I'm looking forward to seeing this redneck Wonder Woman canoodle with Superman some more, possessed by a demon, beaten by children...if they're not gonna put the teeniest, weeniest bit of thought towards Wonder Woman, they might as well leave her out next time as far as I'm concerned

Just remember, we must be happy campers no matter how much Wonder Woman is mistreated :) it is totally illegal to express our 1st amendment right

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#72 Posted by kiba (3743 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: blah blah blah. Diana hasn't lost to Robin. In fact they didn't fight at all. He blocked ONE swing before she kicked him in the gut and knocked him away. It's obvious she's being controlled and it's reasonable to assume she's resisting. How much of her effectiveness does she lose under those circumstances? Half? 90% 99%? You have nearly zero context since they're still making the movie yet you are b!ching in overdrive.

@csg_cl: that might have hurt it this thread wasn't so pathetic. You and the other cry babies can have a good time.

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#73 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@kiba: Seems that you think New 52 has been good to her. Get out of the bubble.

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#74 Posted by deactivated-59dfd33ed3601 (5575 posts) - - Show Bio

Kill them with kindness. It will work everytime. Acting hostile won't help anything.

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#75 Posted by kiba (3743 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: and now you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't mention the n52 at all. All in all I don't like much of the n52 at all.

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#76 Edited by w0nd (6803 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:
@kiba said:

Seriously?! The movie is not even finished being made and you're complaining Robin ducked a swing?

Yes. Because she has super speed and he doesn't. Honestly i don't mind the fact that powerhouses in movies are way weaker than their comic versions. But why can't they have more balanced opponents fighting each other?. No matter how watered down the powerhouses are in cartoons and movies. They will still be far above peak human level. Starfire fighting WW would have been a far better choice.

How do you know she is swinging full speed. Maybe it was to make him lose balance or something, or maybe it's a cartoon andshe would know he would be fine?

Idk spiderman doesn't punch full speed, but the idea of wonder-woman pulling her punches and attacks is far fetched?

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@outside_85 said:

Here, to calm all the nervous nerves out there, this is the Diana that took a swing at Damians head:

You can thank me tomorrow for the nightmares :)

Now let the complaints that Damian is an unstoppable juggernaut begin ... but seriously, even a mind controlled WW should wipe the floor with the entire TT roster ... DC is beginning to really stretch credulity with this one :)

how come the starro episode of mind control didn't have this level of hate? Maybe it did I don't remember though.

The obvious real problem here is Jamie/Blue beetle hasa mohawk.

WTF is that all about :S

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#77 Edited by w0nd (6803 posts) - - Show Bio
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@dernman: ok I'm gonna take your word for it, I might've jumped the gun. Can you blame me though, in Throne of Atlantis she caught a bunch of fish-people in her lariat and threw them back into the ocean, she's not the brightest bulb in the chandelier

oh come on! one complaint you have is she appears to be going all and could hurt robing...out against robin, which is just speculation, not like you can ask her.

and then your next complaint is she throws the fish people safely back into the water!

@csg_cl

" The same promo talks about Damian being able to take down SM."

They said he knows how to do it. Lots of people know how because his weakness is well known. Can he pull it off? We don't even know what it is he is going to use to do this.

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#78 Edited by entropy_aegis (20908 posts) - - Show Bio

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@entropy_aegis: Yeah? But Batman was still portrayed with a lot of dignity in those movies, in the ones I saw anyway. He didn't show up in Assault on Arkham just to job, did he

What about Wonder Woman vs Darkseid in War? now maybe I should go make a thread about the way they disrespected him by not having him kill Diana or by not having his beams just arc around Diana's bracelets and blasting her in the face instead. How about I further add that Darkseid's power can be channelled from any part of his body so Diana's eye busting plan was dumb and unfaithful to his character to begin with.

In fact I should also make a thread about Trigon because he will get his a$$ kicked by everyone in the end.

If someone wants to whine they can pull a thousand excuses out of thin air.

@csg_cl said:
@entropy_aegis said:
@agent41 said:

@entropy_aegis: Fans in general complain when a powerhouse loses to a street leveler. Even if it's an animated movie that has nothing to do with the comics, it's even worse in cases like this, because people are like. "why didn't superman and WW fight superboy or starfire or Raven?, at least they are far more credible as a threat than peak humans".

Except we dont know who fights who,Damian dodging a simple sword swipe=nothing special on his part. It's how it is,its how it always has been,so why complain?

except that he dodges a simple sword swipe from an individual who supposedly moves faster than SM and is one of the greatest fighters in the DCU. The fact that WW is capable of tagging the Flash, yet a peak human can dodge her blows is and always has been ridiculous. For the record I'd call this nitpicking not complaining ... it's just one more example of DC/WB making Batboy look good by nerfing other characters. The same promo talks about Damian being able to take down SM.

Yeah and the Omega Effect can be channelled from any part of Darkseid's body and his eyes rapidly heal,did we see any of that when they were busy making Diana look good by having her bust his eye balls? if we're gonna argue faithfulness then Darkseid should regrown his eyes and then proceeded to blast her in to oblivion. Darkseid is also an incredibly skilled character,why didn't he block her sword? he's also capable of moving at "unthinkable" speeds.

You're just assuming things that aren't there,this WW has never showed any skill or speed worth mentioning and even if she did then so what? Grundy isn't even alive and he was owned by that Fury Amazon in DCAU via virus attack. A virus that only worked on men,a virus so sexist it didn't even spare a dead man.

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@brunnhilde said:

@entropy_aegis: Says you, from a place of privilege, Batman's got his own separate line of movies, gets an extra special treatment within the Justice League, happy days. What's in it for me though, can't say I'm looking forward to seeing this redneck Wonder Woman canoodle with Superman some more, possessed by a demon, beaten by children...if they're not gonna put the teeniest, weeniest bit of thought towards Wonder Woman, they might as well leave her out next time as far as I'm concerned

Just remember, we must be happy campers no matter how much Wonder Woman is mistreated :) it is totally illegal to express our 1st amendment right

No more mistreated than Darkseid and Grundy.

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#79 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: She didn't fight Darkseid alone. And in the comics she blocked Omega Beams more than once, remember that her bracelets create a force field when she crosses them.

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#80 Edited by Archizooom (2175 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Wonder Woman is one of the most powerful, arguably the second most powerful superhero in the DCU, if she can't bring it to Darkseid, who else is going to, of what use is Darkseid to the dcu if he's untouchable to the world's mightiest superheroes? He's a Justice League Villain, losing to the Justice League is was he does and what they bring him in for, it's his job I guess you can say. Now it's not Wonder Woman's job to job to Damien, furthermore the gap between them is chasmic, it should be insurmountable, like watching a yorkshire terrier fell a dinosaur. You didn't think this through, did you

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#81 Posted by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio

seriously people need to understand the concept of sarcasm. It's a friggin cartoon, even the most rabid fans are going to understand that it's not real life. But I do find it ridiculously amusing that batfans get so worked up about pretty legit complaints from other fanbases. Take a deep breath and realize how stupid the concept of a demon-mind-controlled WW "pulling her punches" sounds ... you are all so used to James Bond-esque villains in batbooks that you forget that WW is willing to end a threat when she deems it necessary. Honestly I'm more bothered by her being susceptible to the mind control of a 3rd tier demon villain! But in the end I'll be entertained by the action-oriented animation. I promise all of you that if the roles had been Cassie or Donna as the bad ass Teen Titan rather than Damian who takes down the Bat or SM you would all be crying about the insanity.

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#82 Edited by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio

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@agent41: blah blah blah. Diana hasn't lost to Robin. In fact they didn't fight at all. He blocked ONE swing before she kicked him in the gut and knocked him away. It's obvious she's being controlled and it's reasonable to assume she's resisting. How much of her effectiveness does she lose under those circumstances? Half? 90% 99%? You have nearly zero context since they're still making the movie yet you are b!ching in overdrive.

@csg_cl: that might have hurt it this thread wasn't so pathetic. You and the other cry babies can have a good time.

http://www.picgifs.com/baby-graphics/crying/

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#83 Posted by kiba (3743 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl: I didn't ask for a family photo album

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#84 Posted by Archizooom (2175 posts) - - Show Bio

Just remember, we must be happy campers no matter how much Wonder Woman is mistreated :) it is totally illegal to express our 1st amendment right

Entropy_Aegis voiced his indignation once over what transpired in Hiketeia, all these years and that wound's still fresh. For Wonder Woman, a win over Batman is nothing to write home about but they, however, didn't take it well, the hypocrites.

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#85 Edited by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio
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#86 Edited by kiba (3743 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl: yes, when I talk to you that's pretty much how I feel. Thank you for helping me express my feelings.

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#87 Edited by Archizooom (2175 posts) - - Show Bio

When all's said and done, the whining was actually not that loud before these foreign aggressors came to this territory pick a flame war with the locals. Yet another case in point of self-designated anti-haters being the worst sh!t-stirrers on the internet

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#88 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@somayareece said:

Just remember, we must be happy campers no matter how much Wonder Woman is mistreated :) it is totally illegal to express our 1st amendment right

Entropy_Aegis voiced his indignation once over what transpired in Hiketeia, all these years and that wound's still fresh. For Wonder Woman, a win over Batman is nothing to write home about but they, however, didn't take it well, the hypocrites.

I don't understand what's the problem with talking about specific things. New 52 has divided fans so much. Pointing out that most of the time they only focus on the warrior side, and that they could make more balanced fights by avoiding street levelers vs powerhouses. Those are facts. I don't think is wrong to talk about them.

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#89 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

By the way, many people say they are rebooting this year, is that true?.

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#90 Posted by Jonez_ (11470 posts) - - Show Bio

So what will the next complaint be?

Probably that it is a poorly made film.

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#91 Posted by kiba (3743 posts) - - Show Bio

@brunnhilde: right, everyone else is at fault and you and your friends are totally innocent. I'm on this site and this "territory" of yours nearly everyday when I have some down time at work. I don't appreciate you claiming this forum as your own and neither did I come here for a flame war. I really can't stand the new Robin but nothing in that video is worth the crapstorm this has turned into.

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#92 Posted by CSG_CL (3234 posts) - - Show Bio

@kiba: I'm glad we understand each other. I did my best to put it in simple enough terms for you to grasp

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#93 Posted by kiba (3743 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl: that you're an immature little girl that I'm tired of? Oh yeah. I got it. Next time try using your words like a big girl. I think you can do it.

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#94 Edited by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonez120 said:
@mrtummytumms said:

So what will the next complaint be?

Probably that it is a poorly made film.

I thought it was already well known that a lot of people don't like the latest animated movies from DC. A lot of people have said they aren't as good as they used to be.

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#95 Edited by entropy_aegis (20908 posts) - - Show Bio

@brunnhilde said:
@somayareece said:

Just remember, we must be happy campers no matter how much Wonder Woman is mistreated :) it is totally illegal to express our 1st amendment right

Entropy_Aegis voiced his indignation once over what transpired in Hiketeia, all these years and that wound's still fresh. For Wonder Woman, a win over Batman is nothing to write home about but they, however, didn't take it well, the hypocrites.

The hell are you talking about? I dont go around complaining about that story. Whatever indignation I felt was over Rucka's depiction of Batman. I dislike Rucka's Batman no matter where he goes,I disliked his Batman when he was writing Detective,I still dont like how he got rid of Bullock and Gordon to make way for his pets Montoya and Allen,I dont like that Sasha Bordeaux story at all. His Batman was just an unlikeable prick,those years he was on the Batman books were irritating for the conceptual and story directions.My dislike for Rucka's Batman has nothing to do with him being humiliated,this guy actually shipped both these characters. Didn't think this one through did you?

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@entropy_aegis: Wonder Woman is one of the most powerful, arguably the second most powerful superhero in the DCU, if she can't bring it to Darkseid, who else is going to, of what use is Darkseid to the dcu if he's untouchable to the world's mightiest superheroes? He's a Justice League Villain, losing to the Justice League is was he does and what they bring him in for, it's his job I guess you can say. Now it's not Wonder Woman's job to job to Damien, furthermore the gap between them is chasmic, it should be insurmountable, like watching a yorkshire terrier fell a dinosaur. You didn't think this through, did you

HAHAHAHA,she aint even in the top 12 most powerful heroes on Earth much less the universe.

Damian aint alone either,or did you just miss it's JL vs TT?

WW IS the villain,along with the rest of the JL or did you miss that too?

Didn't think about this one either did you?

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#96 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Out of topic but how do some people do the ranking power level thing in DC?.An user was ranking Supergirl and Shazam in the top 10 of most powerful DC heros, and they aren't more powerful than WW. Based on all the feats from all DC heros. Superman, Supergirl, Shazam and Wonder Woman wouldn't rank in the top 10 of most powerful DC heros. But they are 4 of the most powerful, that's true.

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#97 Edited by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

Have you guys noticed that DC just takes the easy way with many JL members?. For example with WW, there are times when they just writer as a warrior and nothing more. That's the route that they have been taking in a lot of the New 52 comics.

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#98 Posted by entropy_aegis (20908 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:

@entropy_aegis: Out of topic but how do some people do the ranking power level thing in DC?.An user was ranking Supergirl and Shazam in the top 10 of most powerful DC heros, and they aren't more powerful than WW. Based on all the feats from all DC heros. Superman, Supergirl, Shazam and Wonder Woman wouldn't rank in the top 10 of most powerful DC heros. But they are 4 of the most powerful, that's true.

I wouldn't even put Superman in the top 5.

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#99 Posted by agent41 (15864 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:

@entropy_aegis: Out of topic but how do some people do the ranking power level thing in DC?.An user was ranking Supergirl and Shazam in the top 10 of most powerful DC heros, and they aren't more powerful than WW. Based on all the feats from all DC heros. Superman, Supergirl, Shazam and Wonder Woman wouldn't rank in the top 10 of most powerful DC heros. But they are 4 of the most powerful, that's true.

I wouldn't even put Superman in the top 5.

And why would you?. Based on the feats of all DC heros. Clark shouldn't make the top 10.

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#100 Edited by entropy_aegis (20908 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:
@entropy_aegis said:
@agent41 said:

@entropy_aegis: Out of topic but how do some people do the ranking power level thing in DC?.An user was ranking Supergirl and Shazam in the top 10 of most powerful DC heros, and they aren't more powerful than WW. Based on all the feats from all DC heros. Superman, Supergirl, Shazam and Wonder Woman wouldn't rank in the top 10 of most powerful DC heros. But they are 4 of the most powerful, that's true.

I wouldn't even put Superman in the top 5.

And why would you?. Based on the feats of all DC heros. Clark shouldn't make the top 10.

Of course but someone needs to get that through to Brunnhilde.