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#1 Posted by Frozen (21133 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO, if enough readers stop buying the female Thor run, it'll plummet in sales and then send a message to Marvel.

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#2 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2406 posts) - - Show Bio

......no.

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#3 Posted by Frozen (21133 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by WarDishy_ (1252 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Edited by Thorverine (467 posts) - - Show Bio

Well if it's a good book people will buy it, I do think though, they are going to start out with a smaller base once the curiosity wears off. There will be plenty of people who will be loyal to Odinson and I don't think they'll be replaced completely by new Thor fans.

I do think he'll be back, if only because Disney is likely to keep him around in films long after the Avengers trilogy wraps up.

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#7 Posted by Vitalius (5172 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

Ok why ?

The only think that i dislike on her is that she will have Thor as name.

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#8 Edited by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6730 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, but "Boycott Female Thor" comes across as kind of sexist.

"Boycott The New Thor" might be a little safer. :)

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#9 Edited by Frozen (21133 posts) - - Show Bio

@wardishy: But yes, people deserve too. Rather than 'accept' these changes, if fans do not like changes (which have been unncessarily happening lately, e.g. Falcon Captain America, Black Wally West, etc) then they have every right to complain.

@v_scarlotte_rose said:

I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, but "Boycott Female Thor" comes across as kind of sexist.

"Boycott The New Thor" might be a little safer. :)

Nope.

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#10 Posted by Glarinetta (658 posts) - - Show Bio

Yup, never gonna read any Marvel comics again until old Thor is back and she-whore is ***** ***** *****.

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#11 Edited by strangetales (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@vitalius: her name is Angela and she's thors sister...

or am I completely wrong? Why would they just get rid of Thor?

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#12 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: I'm not buying it either mate for many reason. But encouraging a boycott isn't going to attract the right attention. The female comic market is growing and they can be very pushy in their demands. That's probably why the new female Thor is introduced. Plus, there's a lot of PR and attention on this move and it's only been a couple days since its announcement. On my blog, someone told me that their local radio show was covering this comic book announcement. If it's reaching local news level, it's going to be a big move. And people boycotted Superior Spider-Man too yet those sales never dropped below 70,000.

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#13 Posted by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Did I just see you admit Superior sold decently!? O_o

Thor is a woman.

Cap is black.

Lvenger indirectly said something semi-positive about Superior Spider-Man.

The 3 signs of the apocalypse. Our days are numbered, folks.

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#14 Edited by Glarinetta (658 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaken7 said:

@lvenger: Did I just see you admit Superior sold decently!? O_o

Thor is a woman.

Cap is black.

Lvenger indirectly said something semi-positive about Superior Spider-Man.

The 3 signs of the apocalypse. Our days are numbered, folks.

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#15 Posted by Fallschirmjager (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaken7 said:

@lvenger: Did I just see you admit Superior sold decently!? O_o

Thor is a woman.

Cap is black.

Lvenger indirectly said something semi-positive about Superior Spider-Man.

The 3 signs of the apocalypse. Our days are numbered, folks.

He didn't praise Superior Spider-Man he stated a fact.

Bad things make money all the time. Doesn't mean they're not terrible.

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#16 Edited by Pharoh_Atem (44292 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL @ this thread. Let's do remember that these are fictional characters we're dealing with here.

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#17 Posted by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Edited by Fallschirmjager (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaken7 said:

@fallschirmjager: How's overreacting to passive joke comments working for you?

lol. Point out where in my post there is overreaction. I made a simple comment.

How's being incredibly sensitive on the internet working out for you?

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#19 Posted by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Well the fact that you misinterpreted my post as implying that Lvenger sang praise about Superior is quite telling.

I'm not a mirror, bud.

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#20 Edited by Fallschirmjager (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

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@fallschirmjager: Well the fact that you misinterpreted my post as implying that Lvenger sang praise about Superior is quite telling.

I'm not a mirror, bud.

Perhaps if you were more witty than you think you are, we wouldn't be in this situation.

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#21 Edited by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: That's cute. Meaningless, but cute.

Go white-knight somewhere else.

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#22 Posted by Frozen (21133 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL @ this thread. Let's do remember that these are fictional characters we're dealing with here.

I think people have every right to boycott something considering how much damn pandering both DC and Marvel are doing.

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#23 Posted by kagetaicho (1996 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel/DC have been screwing over mainstream heroes lately but at te level of Thor or Superman I can't support. Thor is my favorite and first marvel comic I read.

This is utter foolishness and I doubt it will last long, which is the only satisfaction I'm getting right now. I guess Wolverine or Stark are next in the line of getting screwed over.

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#24 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaken7: I don't know why you needed to make a snarky comment when you knew what my point was in the first place.

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#25 Edited by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Huh? Really? You picked up snark?

Jesus, a guy can't even joke around without getting lambasted. I though it was a cute off-color comment. Sorry I offended you and Falls. *eyeroll*

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#27 Posted by KittyParker13 (3638 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh come on guys, wait for the comic to actually come out before boycotting it. Seriously. You sound racist and sexist, whether you admit it or not. Give it a shot before blasting it.

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#28 Posted by danhimself (21433 posts) - - Show Bio

so much judgement over a book that you haven't even read yet and have only minor details about....you people are exactly what people are talking about when they make fun of comic book readers

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#29 Posted by Vitalius (5172 posts) - - Show Bio
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#30 Edited by KittyParker13 (3638 posts) - - Show Bio

so much judgement over a book that you haven't even read yet and have only minor details about....you people are exactly what people are talking about when they make fun of comic book readers

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#31 Edited by Spykat (116 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: I wish you people would stop "you peopling" us people!

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#32 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

so much judgement over a book that you haven't even read yet and have only minor details about....you people are exactly what people are talking about when they make fun of comic book readers

It's a bad idea and already has critical flaws within it already. That is ground enough for criticism and scepticism already.

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#33 Posted by danhimself (21433 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@danhimself said:

so much judgement over a book that you haven't even read yet and have only minor details about....you people are exactly what people are talking about when they make fun of comic book readers

It's a bad idea and already has critical flaws within it already. That is ground enough for criticism and scepticism already.

critical flaws? all you know is that Thor becomes unworthy and that an unknown character who he's saved at some point in his life picks up the hammer and becomes the new "Thor" and that Thor will continue on without the hammer using his ax....that's all we know

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#34 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@danhimself said:

so much judgement over a book that you haven't even read yet and have only minor details about....you people are exactly what people are talking about when they make fun of comic book readers

It's a bad idea and already has critical flaws within it already. That is ground enough for criticism and scepticism already.

critical flaws? all you know is that Thor becomes unworthy and that an unknown character who he's saved at some point in his life picks up the hammer and becomes the new "Thor" and that Thor will continue on without the hammer using his ax....that's all we know

I've made my case clear in the official news thread and my own blog so forgive me for not elaborating on my full reasoning. But I can assure you there's just as good reason to dislike this idea as there is apparent reason for people to jump in support of this PR move. There are valid reasons of disliking this move and people cannot hide behind equality or the female demographic to justify it. I'm getting sick and tired of Marvel for their stubborn defense of this move.

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#35 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2406 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Posted by entropy_aegis (20909 posts) - - Show Bio

Wont work,it never does.

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#37 Posted by Pharoh_Atem (44292 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

People can boycott what they like--just like I have the right to say people are being overly dramatic to a series they have yet to read.

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#38 Posted by PowerHerc (86188 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not joining in the disrespect, misuse and abuse of one of the greatest Marvel character ever.

I won't be buying the female Thor. I'm boycotting.

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#39 Posted by PowerHerc (86188 posts) - - Show Bio

This is just another publicity stunt where an established character's race, gender or sexual preference (in this case it's gender) is changed to generate some media buzz and supposedly attract new readers.

Here is what's going to happen:

  1. The first few issues will sell well and Marvel will declare the idea a success.
  2. Sales will then plummet as the novelty wears off and most readers/buyers stop buying the series.
  3. "Thor" will then revert to his true male self again and some fans will return to the character.
  4. Some longtime Thor fans will still feel alienated due to the tampering with their favorite character and never return.
  5. Thor will eventually be used in yet another publicity stunt to generate media buzz despite the possible harm to the character and alienation of core fans.
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#40 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (6359 posts) - - Show Bio

Just like Superior people will buy the book just to complain.

Beata

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#41 Edited by Frozen (21133 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not joining in the disrespect, misuse and abuse of one of the greatest Marvel character ever.

I won't be buying the female Thor. I'm boycotting.

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#42 Edited by Frozen (21133 posts) - - Show Bio
@kittyparker13 said:

Ugh come on guys, wait for the comic to actually come out before boycotting it. Seriously. You sound racist and sexist, whether you admit it or not. Give it a shot before blasting it.

I'm ''racist'' and ''sexist'' - ha. Enlighten me - complaining that my favourite characters are being unnecessarily changed for the sake of being diverse (and not achieving true diversity) is neither racist nor sexist, if you believe that then you have little understanding of racism or sexism.

Take a read of Wally West in the New-52 and it stinks of black steryotypes.

Opposing unnecessary, lazy and unsinpired changes are neither racist nor sexist. I don't have to succumb to Marvel and DC's changes and agree with their changes because they're ''promoting diversity'' - whereas in reality, they're not. It's pandering, I want to see real diversity in DC/Marvel, Kamala Khan is atleast a good representation of diversity. Not with the changes to Wally or Thor.

These claims are entertainined by Tumblr warriors.

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#43 Posted by danhimself (21433 posts) - - Show Bio

This is just another publicity stunt where an established character's race, gender or sexual preference (in this case it's gender) is changed to generate some media buzz and supposedly attract new readers.

Here is what's going to happen:

  1. The first few issues will sell well and Marvel will declare the idea a success.
  2. Sales will then plummet as the novelty wears off and most readers/buyers stop buying the series.
  3. "Thor" will then revert to his true male self again and some fans will return to the character.
  4. Some longtime Thor fans will still feel alienated due to the tampering with their favorite character and never return.
  5. Thor will eventually be used in yet another publicity stunt to generate media buzz despite the possible harm to the character and alienation of core fans.

this sounds like what a lot of people said about Superior Spider-man

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#44 Posted by FearTheLiving (8837 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

IMO, if enough readers stop buying the female Thor run, it'll plummet in sales and then send a message to Marvel.

How about actually reading it and see how its presented and if the story is told well before throwing a hissy fit about boycotting it?

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#45 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea, cause its not like Thor has ever been replaced before by another character using his name except for you know when Red Norvell did it, and when Beta Ray Bill did it, or when Eric Masterson did it, or when Dargo Ktor did it, or when even f**king Hercules did it for an arc. Didn't see anyone throwing a huge bitch fit and a boycott those times, gee I wonder what's different about this?

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#46 Edited by Smart_Dork_Dude (3366 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaken7: @joshmightbe

Look am I HAPPY about this change? No, I'm just not mad about it. Here's the deal: Marvel Comics has long borrowed Norse mythology for many of its beloved characters and plots. That's free intellectual property, after all. But the comics are only inspired by Norse mythology, and they've almost never followed the stories line-for-line(And even if they did, mythology suffers from a massive case of The Telephone Game, with lots of different tellings evolving over the years).

The Asgardians have died and been reborn at least a couple times we know of(The last versions before the current ones being a LOT closer the actual Norse myths), so I have the theory that this "new" female Thor is actually a past version of Thor from a previous Ragnarok.

If it's good, then fine she'll just get another hammer and get her own series alongside Thor when he comes back. No big deal

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#47 Edited by FearTheLiving (8837 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:
@kittyparker13 said:

Ugh come on guys, wait for the comic to actually come out before boycotting it. Seriously. You sound racist and sexist, whether you admit it or not. Give it a shot before blasting it.

I'm ''racist'' and ''sexist'' - ha. Enlighten me - complaining that my favourite characters are being unnecessarily changed for the sake of being diverse (and not achieving true diversity) is neither racist nor sexist, if you believe that then you have little understanding of racism or sexism.

Take a read of Wally West in the New-52 and it stinks of black steryotypes.

Opposing unnecessary, lazy and unsinpired changes are neither racist nor sexist. I don't have to succumb to Marvel and DC's changes and agree with their changes because they're ''promoting diversity'' - whereas in reality, they're not. It's pandering, I want to see real diversity in DC/Marvel, Kamala Khan is atleast a good representation of diversity. Not with the changes to Wally or Thor.

These claims are entertainined by Tumblr warriors.

That's a bit different isn't it? They turned a beloved character changed him black then it was put out where he's not acting like himself and was turned into a delinquent. Fem-Thor isn't Thor she is her own character we get to see here journey into mystery (wink wink) along with Thor as he's proven unworthy of the hammer. Going on a rage mission before even seeing a single panel is pointless cause you're essentially damning something that could be awesome.

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#48 Posted by FearTheLiving (8837 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Edited by KittyParker13 (3638 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:
@kittyparker13 said:

Ugh come on guys, wait for the comic to actually come out before boycotting it. Seriously. You sound racist and sexist, whether you admit it or not. Give it a shot before blasting it.

I'm ''racist'' and ''sexist'' - ha. Enlighten me - complaining that my favourite characters are being unnecessarily changed for the sake of being diverse (and not achieving true diversity) is neither racist nor sexist, if you believe that then you have little understanding of racism or sexism.

Take a read of Wally West in the New-52 and it stinks of black steryotypes.

Opposing unnecessary, lazy and unsinpired changes are neither racist nor sexist. I don't have to succumb to Marvel and DC's changes and agree with their changes because they're ''promoting diversity'' - whereas in reality, they're not. It's pandering, I want to see real diversity in DC/Marvel, Kamala Khan is atleast a good representation of diversity. Not with the changes to Wally or Thor.

These claims are entertainined by Tumblr warriors.

Pretty much what Fear the Living said, seeing as it isn't out yet, blasting it right off that bat makes you look sexist and it's just plain illogical.

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#50 Edited by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

@feartheliving: As much as I agree with your overall point, saying "Fem-Thor isn't Thor" is complete BS, as Marvel has made it really clear that this is THE Thor. She's only called Thor, and will only be referred to as Thor.

"Series writer Jason Aaron emphasizes, “This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it’s unlike any Thor we’ve ever seen before."