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#1 Edited by flashrobin (367 posts) - - Show Bio

Im hearing lots of people say that they fear for the worst now that Zack Snyder and David Goyer are attached to expanding the DCU,because of the bad MOS movie.IMO MoS really wasn't that bad I think its the best Super-man film to date but it just doesn't feel like a Superman movie more or less it feels like just an action movie.

What do you guys think about Zack Snyder and David Goyer?

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#2 Posted by Fallschirmjager (23344 posts) - - Show Bio

The storytelling and script had some issues. But most scripts do. It will help to get Affleck in on the project as he's a better director than he is an actor really.

That being said, no one in the film business right now can knows how to shoot a visually appealing movie better than Snyder.

Man of Steel was visually stunning to me. The imagery was powerful.

Even a bad movie like Sucker Punch - mute it and watch. Its awesome.

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#3 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (3848 posts) - - Show Bio

The storytelling and script had some issues. But most scripts do. It will help to get Affleck in on the project as he's a better director than he is an actor really.

That being said, no one in the film business right now can knows how to shoot a visually appealing movie better than Snyder.

Man of Steel was visually stunning to me. The imagery was powerful.

Even a bad movie like Sucker Punch - mute it and watch. Its awesome.

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#4 Edited by HumanRocket (11231 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't have a problem with him. I enjoyed MOS.

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#5 Edited by flameboy298 (2805 posts) - - Show Bio

Zack Snyder is great with the visuals and I thought Watchmen(I've never read the comics,but I was definitely immersed into the world of Watchmen)was Great! But MoS had some inconsistencies with the script.I thought the movie was good,but lacked that feeling that Avengers had.After I watched Avengers I thought...This was epic!!! The Story was meh...really

Its probably because some people dont want want the same writer and director on Batman vs Super-man knowing that MoS was a mediocore movie,but who knows SOMETIMES sequel's can be better...SOMETIMES.....

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#6 Edited by kidchipotle (15756 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought MOS was amazing so...I'm glad.

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#7 Posted by gor724 (895 posts) - - Show Bio

Watchmen and MOS are some of the best CBM ever made, and THE most visually stunning CBM ever made. And according to the best comic book movie contest, people have gotten around Man of Steel controversy, and are seeing it as the movie it is.

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#9 Posted by flameboy298 (2805 posts) - - Show Bio

@gor724: You're forgetting The Dark Knight...How can you say "Best CBM" ever made and not mention The Dark Knight >_>

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#10 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29887 posts) - - Show Bio

becauz e pepols dumb

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#11 Edited by gor724 (895 posts) - - Show Bio

@gor724: You're forgetting The Dark Knight...How can you say "Best CBM" ever made and not mention The Dark Knight >_>

I said some of the greatest CBM of all time. Doesn't mean they are the greatest. They're just up there

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#12 Posted by drgnx (3795 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm skeptical because I have doubts about him!!!

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#13 Posted by PeppeyHare (4330 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm fine with him.

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#14 Edited by joshmightbe (27561 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked MOS and have noticed after multiple viewings that a lot of the complaints about it seem unfounded. People complain that Superman causes a lot of damage, A. He only actually caused about 1% of the damage in that movie, the rest was caused by the villains and as comic fans may have noticed its rather common for villains to not give a s**t about collateral damage and B. He didn't have the option of choosing where he fought since the bad guys kept preventing him from leaving. They complain that he killed Zod, well Zod told him straight up that if he didn't kill him that he was going to kill Superman then everyone else and when it happened imprisoning him really wasn't an option.

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#15 Posted by UltimateSMfan (2377 posts) - - Show Bio

In terms of direction and visuals, i had no problem with MOS, and he was one of the people who were instrumental in making the Superman 75th anniversary animated short so i don't have a problem with him ^_^

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#16 Posted by viin (953 posts) - - Show Bio

Im skeptical but if they pulled off a Justice League movie correctly it would be a new bar set. Comic book movies now are getting very bland, expected, and boring.

What I feel people have a problem with is the goal that Man of Steel and movies like Nolan's Batman films were going for...to take a comic book character and put them in a movie that would make it seem like they actually existed in todays world.

No Man of Steel did not completely feel like a Superman movie but I think if they would of done the whole reporter/Daily Planet thing it would of. As far as the action and the destruction, i liked it because the Avengers or any Marvel movie didnt give anything like that, though it might of been a little too much.

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#17 Posted by SanoHibiki (2837 posts) - - Show Bio

It’s a little funny.

I enjoyed watching MOS very much (and not one time) but I admit there are several scenes I would like to be shot differently.

In the beginning my opinion was like – Snyder can stay as director as long he can’t participate in writing screenplay and WB should get reed of Goyer.

Then Snyder went to consult with Frank Miller how to make Superman – Batman movie and Goyer said that in his opinion in fight between Supes and Bat first would be the winner.

I am confused right now. Just hoping that both characters would get fair treatment.

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#18 Posted by saintwildcard (19992 posts) - - Show Bio

IDK why? I loved Watchmen and his ending was better than the comic version. I loved the movie so much its in my top 3 list.

1. Watchmen

2. Man of Steel

3. The Dark Knight.

And so is Man of Steel. I think people just didnt like the destruction and Zod's death. I think the movie set up a sequel perfectly so I think it will be better.

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#19 Posted by RustyRoy (16594 posts) - - Show Bio

I rewatched MoS and it actually gets better with a second viewing, I still have some problems with the movie though. Anyways Watchmen is one of the best CBMs so I have faith in him, its Goyer that I don't trust.

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#20 Posted by Fallschirmjager (23344 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

I rewatched MoS and it actually gets better with a second viewing, I still have some problems with the movie though. Anyways Watchmen is one of the best CBMs so I have faith in him, its Goyer that I don't trust.

I've seen it about 9 times >_>...

Trust me its get better with multiple viewings.

Keep an eyeout for all the powerful images. They're all over the place

Clark in a church with a picture of Jesus over his shoulder as he's talking to the priest

Superman falling to his knees in front of Zod with the earth in the back ground...

Superman getting hit with a train

the entire "first flight" sequence

all of those are massive nods / metaphors to Superman lore

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#21 Posted by saintwildcard (19992 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

I rewatched MoS and it actually gets better with a second viewing, I still have some problems with the movie though. Anyways Watchmen is one of the best CBMs so I have faith in him, its Goyer that I don't trust.

I've seen it about 9 times >_>...

Trust me its get better with multiple viewings.

Keep an eyeout for all the powerful images. They're all over the place

Clark in a church with a picture of Jesus over his shoulder as he's talking to the priest

Superman falling to his knees in front of Zod with the earth in the back ground...

Superman getting hit with a train

the entire "first flight" sequence

all of those are massive nods / metaphors to Superman lore

I wish I had that level of self control to watch it that many times. I only watched it twice because I cant sit in a theater straight for that long. I have to pause the movie and process what I just saw and pace across the room.

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#22 Edited by Fallschirmjager (23344 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_rog_el: I only went to the theater 5 times *cough*

But I love movies. I usually go to a new one every week mostly.

MoS was actually my record for seeing a movie the most times. Previously it was 4 with The Dark Knight :D (in theaters anyway)

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#23 Posted by kapitein_zeppos (360 posts) - - Show Bio

Snyder is a good director (as long as it doesn't get too gimmicky) and with the right scenario he should do OK, but I don't trust him or Goyer to put something decent on paper.

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#24 Posted by SandMan_ (4581 posts) - - Show Bio

Dude kinda is a hit or miss...

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#25 Posted by gor724 (895 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked MOS and have noticed after multiple viewings that a lot of the complaints about it seem unfounded. People complain that Superman causes a lot of damage, A. He only actually caused about 1% of the damage in that movie, the rest was caused by the villains and as comic fans may have noticed its rather common for villains to not give a s**t about collateral damage and B. He didn't have the option of choosing where he fought since the bad guys kept preventing him from leaving. They complain that he killed Zod, well Zod told him straight up that if he didn't kill him that he was going to kill Superman then everyone else and when it happened imprisoning him really wasn't an option.

I re-watched it today, and most of the damage actually came from the world engine, not the fight scenes. Some people also complain about the civilians not moving, but there was no were to move, a statue was in the way. Before people give bad reviews, they should re-watch the movie first and see if their points are valid.

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#26 Posted by LyraFay (2643 posts) - - Show Bio

Zack Snyder is a hit or miss, but I seems to be very passionate about comic books and those characters. And if you can get a fan like him to direct it MOS and its sequel. I also don't understand why people are complaining about MOS's destruction, what about the brutally of the Joker in The Dark Knight?! Weird double standards!

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#27 Edited by THORSON (4597 posts) - - Show Bio

because after 1 bad or ok movie people instantly think that person is a bad director.

Humans and comic book movie fans are so closed minded and arrogant.

Personally i really don't care about the director as long as the movie is watchable.

kind of like batman fans, just because that nolan guy did 3 movies they think he is a god.