There is little to no denying that Superman has the biggest fanbase in all of comicdom. But is it just me or does he get the most hatred of them all? I mean how many of these "Superman overpowered", "Superman overdone", "Hate Superman" kind of threads should come out? And I'm talking just CV. On other forums I see so much disrespect in Superman respect threads.
Being hated is not directly proportional to the popularity of the character, ain't it? Look at Batman or Spiderman. They rival Superman's popularity but I see only miniscule hatred towards them (not that I want them hated, I love Batman). What is it with Supes and hatred?
Funny thing is Spawn, J'onn, Green Lanterns and other characters have more powers than him. He might very well be the most hated hero though, which is absurd if you think about it.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's hatred, merely lack of understanding of a character and when you don't understand a character you seem to gain a reason to hate said character. Ignorance essentially equals hatred.
@Nobody: Agreed. Also, for some reason, there is this idea that because something is classic (i.e. pre-1960s Marvel renaissance) that means it is somehow outdated, irrelevant and less valuable- a fallacious idea. Those who hate on Superman have no respect for comic history, and I, in turn, have difficulty finding respect for their opinions. I mean, it is okay to have some issues with Superman. He is my favorite and I have some issues with him, but to go so far as to hate on him is another thing. You at least have to respect the legacy and what he stands for.
" I wouldn't go so far as to say it's hatred, merely lack of understanding of a character and when you don't understand a character you seem to gain a reason to hate said character. Ignorance essentially equals hatred. "
QFT!
@Gambit1024 said:
" What's with all the Superman hate? He's cool. I could definitely see Captain America being the most hated by the general public. "
I picture people in Iran saying "Death to Captain America!" Ehehehehe!
Not just them, I think just about anyone who isn't from America doesn't like the character, lol. Aren't we (I'm from the US) still the most hated country like ever?
" @ssejllenrad: Not just them, I think just about anyone who isn't from America doesn't like the character, lol. Aren't we (I'm from the US) still the most hated country like ever? "
Well I'm Filipino so I love the U.S. like a big brother. I wish we're still a U.S. Colony. Things were much better then.
Here in Australia however, the U.S. hate is astonishing. Would you believe Aussie's mock at your "accents"? And we're just talking bout a democratic western-inclined country. How much more hate in openly anti-American countries.
I think there have always been hatred towards you cause of the U.S.'s unparalleled success. Plus the hate skyrocketed during the W.Bush-era.
" @ssejllenrad: Aw man, the Australians hate us? Damn, and I really like them. And Bush is just... Ugh, he really screwed us. One of my teachers went to Thailand and they love us. There's Obama stuff EVERYWHERE over there. "
Australians have "mild-hate" like "Americans = cholesterol (as if they're not fatties themselves)" or "NFL sucks, Americans are P*ssies for wearing paddings. Rugby is the way" or "US pollutes the world!" or "What's the deal with the baseball diamond? Cricket rules!!!" kind of stuff. Basically ignorant rants. Not really serious matters.
And if you want Obama-love? Thailand is nothing compared to Indonesia! They love him so much over there, it's as if his Indonesia's president.
I'm off-topic for so long now so I'd best shut-up already.
" @ssejllenrad: Lol, I gotcha. So what's the deal with the Superman hate? "
I honestly don't know. That's why I made this thread. I wanted to know what's the deal with the hatred. I'm sick of it. Being a Superman fanboy, it's not easy to take all this hate.
" @Nobody: Agreed. Also, for some reason, there is this idea that because something is classic (i.e. pre-1960s Marvel renaissance) that means it is somehow outdated, irrelevant and less valuable- a fallacious idea. Those who hate on Superman have no respect for comic history, and I, in turn, have difficulty finding respect for their opinions. "
And that's why Action Comics #775 owned so much. It took that criticism head on.
I personally don't know HOW he can be hated. He's what a superhero IS. Plain and simple. He was the first of his breed, people should respect that. Not hate it.
i think it's his "disguise" and the fact he does alotta crap including ice breath and heat beam eyes thus leading to being overpowered, and don't get mad at me, i'm not saying i hate him, i'm just putting the opinions of the haters forward.
" @Nobody: Agreed. Also, for some reason, there is this idea that because something is classic (i.e. pre-1960s Marvel renaissance) that means it is somehow outdated, irrelevant and less valuable- a fallacious idea. Those who hate on Superman have no respect for comic history, and I, in turn, have difficulty finding respect for their opinions. "
And that's why Action Comics #775 owned so much. It took that criticism head on. "
The most hated superheroes are Sentry (for being a Mary Sue and causing the entire marvel universe to be downgraded to a supporting role in his story), Vibe (for being a racist stereotype), Robin II (for being a brat and not being half as awesome as Robin I), and Triathlon (for lots of reasons but mainly just for sucking really hard).
Yes, you hear more people say "I hate Superman/Wolverine/anybody popular" because those characters are the ones they are most often exposed to so if they don't like them, its gonna bug them more and they're more likely to rant about it.
Still, Sentry, Vibe, Robin II and Triathalon are the characters most universaly hated in my experience. You'll rarely find a comics guru that likes any of those four.
" The most hated superheroes are Sentry (for being a Mary Sue and causing the entire marvel universe to be downgraded to a supporting role in his story), Vibe (for being a racist stereotype), Robin II (for being a brat and not being half as awesome as Robin I), and Triathlon (for lots of reasons but mainly just for sucking really hard). Yes, you hear more people say "I hate Superman/Wolverine/anybody popular" because those characters are the ones they are most often exposed to so if they don't like them, its gonna bug them more and they're more likely to rant about it. Still, Sentry, Vibe, Robin II and Triathalon are the characters most universaly hated in my experience. You'll rarely find a comics guru that likes any of those four. "
Why not just say Jason Todd? But I do agree with everything stated
i can't hate on a icon superman is like the father of comics everybody know him an love him so rock on superman i give you credit where it is due no hate here an yes he is the most hated superhero example death of superman no other comic character who dies will be a big a deal as that alot of ppl where happy for that fans were loving it
" I personally don't know HOW he can be hated. He's what a superhero IS. Plain and simple. He was the first of his breed, people should respect that. Not hate it. "
" I personally don't know HOW he can be hated. He's what a superhero IS. Plain and simple. He was the first of his breed, people should respect that. Not hate it. "
No Hank Pym is more hated cause he hit his wife once in the 60s despite the fact that many beloved super heros like Mr. Fantastic have a much longer track record of abuse and neglect for their spouses
" @ssejllenrad: Not just them, I think just about anyone who isn't from America doesn't like the character, lol. Aren't we (I'm from the US) still the most hated country like ever? "
I'm Swedish, and I like Captain America. IMO, he doesn't stand for America as much as he stands for what America is supposed to be, and I don't really recall having anything against the ideals he represents. Plus, Steve is just awesome. As for the topic, yeah, Supes get an absurd amount of hate for little to no reason. I can see how a lot of people aren't into his type of character (being thoroughly good, and far above street-level), but hating him is..redundant. He practically set the standard for superheroes.
How can Superman be the most hated superhero? I know I'm mad because he's my favourite but all the "Superman's so overpowered" argument is rubbish. There are plenty of superheroes with more powers than him. Martian Manhunter, Black Adam, Mister Mxyzptlk, Superboy Prime... the list goes on and on. Modern age Superman is significantly depowered compared to Silver Age Superman. And as for Superman being a "goodie two shoes in some people's eyes" is because he represents the best of humanity. He is the greatest of superheroes and if it wasn't for him, superhero comic books would never have taken off.
@daken_2513: Because he is a goody two shoes who can do anything.... at least that is my reason for hating Supes and that fact noone can see threw his disguise it's ridiculous..
@CrimsonAlchemist: The disguise is explained in more detail in Superman: Birthright. It may still not be entirely plausible in reality, but I found the way they talked about it made enough sense to stop being bothered about it.
Typically I think that most Hate stems from Fictional V.S. Debates. Most "Superman haters" are typically HARDCORE Hulk, Silver Surfer, Sentry, Thor, and yes Goku supporters. most hate comes from fictional debates that then leads to hardcore venom towards superman. I honestly do not get why people hate on superman, But it makes perfect sence when thinking about it. ALOT of HATE spews towards superman directly due to hardcore fan support of superman when compared to other characters. if you look down the line most superman "Haters" are huge fans of the heros I listed above. thats what i think though.
Okay, I'll explain my Superman hate, but this is only on a shallow level, but I hope it will speak for some other people.
First, I'm a Marvel fan. I like, as most people describe, "their realistic personalities and the flaws that come with them". This is disregarding the fact that D.C. might have those type of heroes as well. The difference is, Superman, a leading hero of D.C., seems to have that flawless, unrealistic personality that seems like it isn't obstructed by evil at all. That, combined with the fact that he has an incredible array of powers makes me dislike the character.
Sure, Marvel has that similar personality with Captain America, but the thing is, Captain America is very close to human in superhero terms, so he fights that evil with only leadership, tactics, and bravery, but rarely by his own powers. Superman seems to take on all that by himself. Thor, Silver Surfer, and Sentry all have their passive moments, because they usually they put their own race before others.
Honestly, the thing that probably makes me hate him the most is his costume. Yeah, I know, it's classic, legendary, and iconic. I'll be honest, Superman could totally be likable, but if he's fighting crime in spandex with the colors blue, red, and yellow, it becomes too surreal.
I'm not a fan of D.C., so naturally I'll be inaccurate with a lot of things, but I hope this clears it up for you guys a bit more.
"Thor, Silver Surfer, and Sentry all have their passive moments, because they usually they put their own race before others." obviously you did not Read Superman New Krypton and War of the Supermen. "the thing that probably makes me hate him the most is his costume. Yeah, I know, it's classic, legendary, and iconic. I'll be honest, Superman could totally be likable, but if he's fighting crime in spandex " ahhh really? and the X-men, Spiderman, Thor, etc did not fight in spandex? hell Silver Surfer is naked for crying out loud.. lol just saying :) i do respect you opinion though even though i disagree.
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