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Could the following cause pain to Spider-Man? I'm not asking if they could beat him in a fight. If Spider-Man were just standing there, and the following punched him or put him in a headlock or twisted his arm, would he be in pain?

A) T-800

B) Robocop

C) Jason X

D) Predator

E) Prime Arnold Schwarzenegger

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#3  Edited By JohnnyZ256

@TheAcidSkull: I'm not asking that. I'm asking if they could cause him pain.

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#5  Edited By Teerack

A normal person like Prime Arnold Schwarzenegger wouldn't be able to hurt him much at all. Spider-man isn't invulnerable like other big time heroes so he can feel pain easily, but Arnold couldn't actually cause an injury in him.

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#6  Edited By Strider1992

A) T-800 - Yeah Spidey would feel it but it wouldn't do much damage

B) Robocop - I don't know how strong Robocop is so I can't say

C) Jason X - He'd feel his punches but it most likely wouldn't hurt

D) Predator - Depends on which Predator

E) Prime Arnold Schwarzenegger - Nope wouldn't notice it

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#7  Edited By JohnnyZ256

@TheAcidSkull: Are you saying that repeated punches from Jason or a T-800 wouldn't KO Spider-Man?

@Strider92: Aren't Jason X and the T-800 roughly equivalent in strength?

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#8  Edited By Strider1992

@JohnnyZ256 said:

@Strider92: Aren't Jason X and the T-800 roughly equivalent in strength?

Its been a while since i've seen that movie but I don't recall Jason doing anything particularly impressive strength wise.

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#10  Edited By JohnnyZ256

@TheAcidSkull:

I guess that's possible. But Spider-Man would certainly be beat up in that instance.

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#12  Edited By JohnnyZ256

I'm not a Spider-Man expert so I'm sure you're right.

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#14  Edited By TDK_1997

Well he will be in pain but not much.

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@TDK_1997 said:

Well he will be in pain but not much.

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@Strider92 said:

A) T-800 - Yeah Spidey would feel it but it wouldn't do much damage

B) Robocop - I don't know how strong Robocop is so I can't say

C) Jason X - He'd feel his punches but it most likely wouldn't hurt

D) Predator - Depends on which Predator

E) Prime Arnold Schwarzenegger - Nope wouldn't notice it

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All of them could. Depends how much.

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#18  Edited By New_World_Order

A) T-800 - Yeah Spidey would feel it but it wouldn't do much damage

B) Robocop - I don't know how strong Robocop is so I can't say

C) Jason X - He'd feel his punches but it most likely wouldn't hurt

D) Predator - Depends on which Predator

E) Prime Arnold Schwarzenegger - Nope wouldn't notice it

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#19  Edited By deaditegonzo

You guys are overrating Spideys overall durability, severely.

It takes a ton to KO him, sure, weve seen this with Hulk, with Morlun, with all the heavy hitters. It takes a lot to severely injure him and he is very resilient.

But it doesnt take much to hurt him, which seems to be the question here. To put it simply, if he could only be hurt by the likes of Hulk or Morlun or their ilk, then dudes like Wolverine seriously couldnt phase him, not to mention all the peak/olympic level humans that hurt him in the silver age.

Any of the above would hurt him if he just stood their and took their punches, would he be actually injured? The only one that jumps out at me is maybe the T-800, which I could see leaving a nice shiner, but none of them would KO him..

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You guys are overrating Spideys overall durability, severely.

It takes a ton to KO him, sure, weve seen this with Hulk, with Morlun, with all the heavy hitters. It takes a lot to severely injure him and he is very resilient.

But it doesnt take much to

hurt

him, which seems to be the question here. To put it simply, if he could only be hurt by the likes of Hulk or Morlun or their ilk, then dudes like Wolverine seriously couldnt phase him, not to mention all the peak/olympic level humans that hurt him in the silver age.

Any of the above would hurt him if he just stood their and took their punches, would he be

actually

injured? The only one that jumps out at me is maybe the T-800, which I could see leaving a nice shiner, but none of them would KO him..

It takes much more than 1 ton to KO Spider-Man.

Wolverine has claws.

I've never seen a peak human hurt Spider-Man.

Some characters on the list will hurt him, but he's not gonna be in agony or anything.

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#21  Edited By deaditegonzo

@nickzambuto said:

@deaditegonzo said:

You guys are overrating Spideys overall durability, severely.

It takes a ton to KO him, sure, weve seen this with Hulk, with Morlun, with all the heavy hitters. It takes a lot to severely injure him and he is very resilient.

But it doesnt take much to

hurt

him, which seems to be the question here. To put it simply, if he could only be hurt by the likes of Hulk or Morlun or their ilk, then dudes like Wolverine seriously couldnt phase him, not to mention all the peak/olympic level humans that hurt him in the silver age.

Any of the above would hurt him if he just stood their and took their punches, would he be

actually

injured? The only one that jumps out at me is maybe the T-800, which I could see leaving a nice shiner, but none of them would KO him..

It takes much more than 1 ton to KO Spider-Man.

Wolverine has claws.

I've never seen a peak human hurt Spider-Man.

Some characters on the list will hurt him, but he's not gonna be in agony or anything.

I didnt mean a literal "ton" I was speaking figuratively. A ton =

a lot

, I apologize, it didnt occur to me that there would be any confusion as I listed 100 tonners.

Wolverine can hurt him without his claws.

Wilson Fisk, Kingpin, isnt supposed to be enhanced human or super human, and he's manhandled Spider-man. In the Silver Age, Spidey fought a lot of non-super humans, and felt the pain. He is not invulnerable by any means. He is super resilient, though. A great example is in, I think, New Ways to Die, where he is hit a LOT by automatic gunfire, and keeps trucking.

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#22  Edited By nickzambuto

@nickzambuto said:

@deaditegonzo said:

You guys are overrating Spideys overall durability, severely.

It takes a ton to KO him, sure, weve seen this with Hulk, with Morlun, with all the heavy hitters. It takes a lot to severely injure him and he is very resilient.

But it doesnt take much to

hurt

him, which seems to be the question here. To put it simply, if he could only be hurt by the likes of Hulk or Morlun or their ilk, then dudes like Wolverine seriously couldnt phase him, not to mention all the peak/olympic level humans that hurt him in the silver age.

Any of the above would hurt him if he just stood their and took their punches, would he be

actually

injured? The only one that jumps out at me is maybe the T-800, which I could see leaving a nice shiner, but none of them would KO him..

It takes much more than 1 ton to KO Spider-Man.

Wolverine has claws.

I've never seen a peak human hurt Spider-Man.

Some characters on the list will hurt him, but he's not gonna be in agony or anything.

I didnt mean a literal "ton" I was speaking figuratively. A ton =

a lot

, I apologize, it didnt occur to me that there would be any confusion as I listed 100 tonners.

Wolverine can hurt him without his claws.

Wilson Fisk, Kingpin, isnt supposed to be enhanced human or super human, and he's manhandled Spider-man. In the Silver Age, Spidey fought a lot of non-super humans, and felt the pain. He is not invulnerable by any means. He is super resilient, though. A great example is in, I think, New Ways to Die, where he is hit a LOT by automatic gunfire, and keeps trucking.

Kingpin was actually 100% metahuman in the Silver Age, he was stronger than Spider-Man. Once he became a Daredevil villain, they retconned him and most of his history with Spider-Man.

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#23  Edited By w0nd

He was shot in the head, or at least through the cheek and he kept on fighting. In new ways to die by Norman. I thought maybe the suit he was wearing protected him, but it wasn't bullet proof, I don't know how he got out of that one. He can feel pain by regular humans, and yes kingpin is regular now. I don't know how K.P. gets the drop on him by all means spider-man is stronger, in what if stories he punched a hole in his chest and killed him, and back in black shows he is superior.

I kind of like the ultimate spider-man deal, when he is stressed his skin hardens like an exoskeleton enough to protect him further than an ordinary person but not enough to keep him from feeling pain. I am pretty sure Dare Devil could hurt him, when he gets punched though he rolls with it. Apparently if he just stands there and lets regular people punch him they would break their hands. (sensational spiderman 35 he said if he didn't roll with their punches they would break their hands upon impact and these were spider enhanced people as well)

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#24  Edited By Mortium

@nickzambuto: Peak humans can hurt him, but not much...

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This fight ended with Peter pretty much winning, but letting Cap go. I believe Parker recovered on the next page and wasn't even winded when the fight was over. But yeah, Cap did tag him a few times, and they hurt.

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@mortium: The difference with Cap is he is skilled enough to go for weak areas. A normal blow to the chest or shoulder from Cap probably wouldn't even be felt by Pete. Its when Cap hits pressure points and weak spots Spidey feels it. You can see in that very scan he hits him in the lungs and temple both weak spots.

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I know this isn't canon and it technically isn't even Peter but you gotta admit that's a huge durability feat from a spider-power based person.

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Spider-Man is invincible.

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#29  Edited By segamarvel

Ya gotta admit that if he can take a truck to the face without budging or tank his own punch which can make fissures into the ground then there is no reason why Spidey shouldn't be invincible to blunt peak human attacks.

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Jason X is a 8-10 tonner...

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#31  Edited By Archer1

when did that happen?

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Just helping with more scans. They were probably attacking to KO him (But he did stay down briefly, wasn't KOed though).

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#34  Edited By pastepotpete1

Wow..If t 800 tied peter up n started to punch him over n over he wuld die 15 minutes ..same as if s women tied you up and started punching you repeately or a 13 year old boy u would die

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@mortium: Cap is Superhuman btw.. Seen some feats which would give him at least 2 ton strength.. 1 feat looks about class 10 but I have chosen to regard it as class 5. Cable has stated Cap to be stronger and Cable is a 10 tonner. Cap was holding back on Spidey as well. Spidey didn't come close to winning, he was in a panick for not even being able to hit him.. he gave it all he had though he did let Cap go in the end when he had to go save other heroes, which he knew Cap was doing. The reason this feat isn't valid is because thats the Iron Spidey suit, the suit alone is completely bulletproof and with superhuman durability on top of the fact that Spider Man already has enhanced durability... and of course Cap was still holding back. Even after all this durability his still felt that pain, he was numb in the areas he was hit in but yea he did recover soon.

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@pleasuremachine: even spidey was holding back on cap. spidey always holds back and noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way cap could make spidey have a numb area in his body... not even a bit. spider-man is still stronger,faster,more durable and far smarter than captain america. spider-man would knock him out within a single punch.

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@musa56: It's only because Cap knows where the pressure points are and everything, Spiderman is much more powerful.

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#41  Edited By spiderman1976

@strider92: hey! what is this from??!?!? ive never read this one!

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With his current strength now increased to far superior to 10 tons, is he still vulnerable to bullets and blades ?

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@skyleat said:

With his current strength now increased to far superior to 10 tons, is he still vulnerable to bullets and blades ?

Unfortunately yes. In order to artificially keep him at the street level, Marvel has inexplicably kept his piercing resistance very low. So despite being able to tank hits from the Hulk with little problem, or being able to lift skyscrapers, he still can't take a bullet or blade.

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@skyleat said:

With his current strength now increased to far superior to 10 tons, is he still vulnerable to bullets and blades ?

Unfortunately yes. In order to artificially keep him at the street level, Marvel has inexplicably kept his piercing resistance very low. So despite being able to tank hits from the Hulk with little problem, or being able to lift skyscrapers, he still can't take a bullet or blade.

current spider man is bulletproof and knifeproof.

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@g2_: With or without armor ?

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@g2_ said:
@blackspidey2099 said:
@skyleat said:

With his current strength now increased to far superior to 10 tons, is he still vulnerable to bullets and blades ?

Unfortunately yes. In order to artificially keep him at the street level, Marvel has inexplicably kept his piercing resistance very low. So despite being able to tank hits from the Hulk with little problem, or being able to lift skyscrapers, he still can't take a bullet or blade.

current spider man is bulletproof and knifeproof.

Only with his armor (and while he probably is knifeproof, we haven't seen him take a knife blow yet IIRC, so we can't be sure).

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@g2_ said:

@blackspidey2099: he took hits from the human torch we can be sure

flame durability =/= knife/piercing durability. Trust me, I'd love if the new suit made him more durable than the freaking Hulk, but until we have concrete proof,we can't be sure.