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#201  Edited By Decoy Elite

I really hate Spider-Ock because he doesn't act like either Peter or Otto. Which doesn't make a lick of sense.

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#202  Edited By Ninjablade09

@Decoy Elite said:

I really hate Spider-Ock because he doesn't act like either Peter or Otto. Which doesn't make a lick of sense.

Isn't that the point?

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#203  Edited By Decoy Elite

@Ninjablade09 said:

@Decoy Elite said:

I really hate Spider-Ock because he doesn't act like either Peter or Otto. Which doesn't make a lick of sense.

Isn't that the point?

He's a mix of their personalities, thus he should have bits from both of them.

The only thing from Ock I see is arrogance and that's it.

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#204  Edited By Ninjablade09

@Decoy Elite said:

@Ninjablade09 said:

@Decoy Elite said:

I really hate Spider-Ock because he doesn't act like either Peter or Otto. Which doesn't make a lick of sense.

Isn't that the point?

He's a mix of their personalities, thus he should have bits from both of them.

The only thing from Ock I see is arrogance and that's it.

Ok

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@Decoy Elite said:

@Ninjablade09 said:

@Decoy Elite said:

I really hate Spider-Ock because he doesn't act like either Peter or Otto. Which doesn't make a lick of sense.

Isn't that the point?

He's a mix of their personalities, thus he should have bits from both of them.

The only thing from Ock I see is arrogance and that's it.

His speech is also affected. I don't remember peter saying YOU STUPID BRUTE or DOLTS

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#206  Edited By mccoym2

Just read #3. Superior Spiderman really isnt that bad, I am surprised everyone hates it so much. #1 wasnt that great but 2, and 3 I have really liked. Better than Iron Man's new book. Now thats trash.

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#207  Edited By Sprayer1218

@mccoym2: I actually think the opposite haha. I liked #1, but 2 and 3 haven't done a whole lot for me. Well, I did think it was good the way #2 handled the MJ-SpOck thing. I think my biggest problem right now is that I'm actually wanting a 3 issue storyline or maybe even a 6 issue. I'm just not feeling the one issue minor stories right now. Also, am I the only one who hates Carlie?

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#208  Edited By mccoym2

@Sprayer1218: Charlie is a twit. Generally. But she seems to be the only one that thinks something is different about Peter, mind you it took Peter in Ottos body telling her that he was Spider-man to push her into this path of thought but at least they are addressing this. Someone close to Peter will have to know that he is acting strange. I to did really enjoy how MJ was handled and when Ock relived intimate moments of Peters and MJ that was just the perfect amount of creepy. I really thought that Peter in Otto's memories and Ocks compassion for Vulture were really good points in #3. The art was a lot better as well. I found anyways. The arc's will come back so I am not really worried about that.

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#209  Edited By Sprayer1218

@mccoym2: Oh yeah, the art has been great IMO. I'm also kind of tired of seeing "Peter's ghost," or whatever that is. I don't need to constantly see it in every panel. Kind of getting old quick you know?

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#210  Edited By mccoym2

@Sprayer1218: I understand what your saying. I think Slott is doing this to balance out the character. I would be more disappointed in it if all the book was was SpOck running around being a condescending douche without any of the classic spidey humor and wit. But yes Peter doesnt need to be in every panel, I agree with that. Hes not in all of them but a lot and his presence doesnt add to every panel. He should only be there when it can add to the panel. I agree with you there

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#211  Edited By animehunter

If you haven't read issue 3 yet, stop or carry on at own risk

Just read issue 3, and I believe I said previously when I listed the issues SSM will be appearing in, what I said was that "this could be an important issue" and I believe I have been proven right, because what it shows is that Carlie just realised what Peter told her in 700 was true and the Peter that's in-front of her isn't Peter at all due to what he did to the Vulture. Although she doesn't say it out right, her speech and expression tells that whole story and is backed up by what Ghost Peter says. Because of this realisation, I have feeling that Carlie's life might be in danger from SpOCK and that it would visited down the line, possibly in issues 7+8

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#212  Edited By Sapperjak

Oh snap..

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#213  Edited By manafiend

Well I've just finished reading issue 3 of SSM, and I must say it's quite enjoyable. I like SpOck's inventions and how he's using them. I especially liked him taking down the Spider Signal and how he started viewing the Vulture now he's on the other side of the mask. Does make me wonder if we'll start getting more reflection by SpOck on how he used to behave.

Also, does anyone know how the Spider Signal got rebuild? SpOck blew it up in the opening scene, but now it's fixed? I can see that JJJ might have rebuilt it for show, or even that SpOck might have done so to allow him to perform his blinding trick. However, I would have liked to have seen it be done, seemed to come out of left field...

P.S.: First post, good to be here! :)

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#214  Edited By Ninjablade09

@manafiend: Well welcome to the vine

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@animehunter: I hope SpOck doesn't do anything stupid but try to explain the situation. Maybe it's too much from Grant Morrison's Animal Man where the heroes solve the problem with the bad guy by immediately punching. Though SpOck still has the arrogance of Doc Ock, he is trying to do good. I think it would be interesting to see how the Marvel Universe deals with a bad guy who's trying to be good but it cost them one of their good guys. Wolverine killed a hero while under the influence of the Hand (IIRC) and has attacked numerous heroes before yet people trust him. I would like to see how Wolverine would deal with knowing someone who always annoyed him was dead and the killer was trying to redeem himself. Would he allow the redeemer to continue or would he try to put him in jail, negating Parker's influence of turning a bad guy good?

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#216  Edited By Sampsman

Question for those who've read issue 3: Did the Vulture die in this issue, or did he just get really jacked up?

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#217  Edited By xblah_blahx

All this debating over SSM is just....just..... Crazy Town Banana Pants!!!

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#218  Edited By Phaedrusgr

@captain_oblivious: I can't see any real effort for redemption. All I see is a pseudo-masculinity contest, where SpOck tries to prove to himself he's better than his adversary. It's all about himself. Again. As Dr. Octopus he wanted to show to the world he's a super-genius who can do anything. Now he tries to show to the world he's a better Spiderman (that's why he says they'll see the difference). He's just an arrogant, selfish, swollen-headed, egotistic son of...person...

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#219  Edited By Teerack

@Dark_Guyver: That term will always be used to describe the whole Superior story line once it's over.

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#220  Edited By xblah_blahx

@Teerack said:

@Dark_Guyver: That term will always be used to describe the whole Superior story line once it's over.

I could think of a few better terms to describe this garbage :)

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#221  Edited By animehunter

@Sampsman said:

Question for those who've read issue 3: Did the Vulture die in this issue, or did he just get really jacked up?

I answered that question here: Did Superior Spiderman Kill Someone!? (Spoilers)

but to clarify

I don't believe he killed him, it was more he hurt him very badly, as mentioned by Carlie in the image below, she also never say "you killed him" only that he is "Burnt and cut to pieces"

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Plus he would have been protected from any fatal injuries by the suit he was wearing, SSM explains the suit here

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#222  Edited By Sampsman

@animehunter: Thanks. I ask because this month marks the 50th Anniversary of the Vulture. It would be a major dick move by Slott to kill him off on such an important milestone.

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#224  Edited By Sampsman

@animehunter:

Wow, For SSM 9 The synopsis is:

"The time has come to see who will live, who will die, and who will emerge as the one, true Superior Spider-Man!" And another website writes:"The hottest comic in comics comes to a turning point that will get you angrier than you were after Spidey #700!"

And for SSM 10 The synopsis is:

"A perfect jumping on point as The Green Goblin returns…and Spider-Man is nowhere to be found!"

Hard to believe it's not even 12 issues into the series and they're already promoting a " Perfect Jumping on Point."

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#225  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Can't wait to see is team up with Sleepwalker in Avenging Spider-Man!

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#226  Edited By PunyParker

@Sampsman said:

@animehunter:

Wow, For SSM 9 The synopsis is:

"The time has come to see who will live, who will die, and who will emerge as the one, true Superior Spider-Man!" And another website writes:"The hottest comic in comics comes to a turning point that will get you angrier than you were after Spidey #700!"

And for SSM 10 The synopsis is:

"A perfect jumping on point as The Green Goblin returns…and Spider-Man is nowhere to be found!"

Hard to believe it's not even 12 issues into the series and they're already promoting a " Perfect Jumping on Point."

"Angrier...."....i dont like this....

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#227  Edited By Ninjablade09

Is it weird that Ghost Peter wears the Superior Spider-man costume when he's in costume?

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#228  Edited By Ninjablade09

@PunyParker:

Issue 5 Bagley variant

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#229  Edited By PunyParker

@Ninjablade09 said:

@PunyParker:

Issue 5 Bagley variant

Wow.....i mean i didnt expect a Bagley cover..!

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#230  Edited By Teerack

@Ninjablade09: Looks like something sexual is about to happen.

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#231  Edited By Ninjablade09

@PunyParker: Neither did I

@Teerack: Haha, love the avatar pic

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#232  Edited By PunyParker

@Teerack: You sir......have a nice avatar pic...

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#233  Edited By Teerack

So "The Other" showed up in Scarlet Spider recently, and made it sound as if Peter was destine to die because he rejected him. Interesting.

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#234  Edited By PunyParker

@Teerack said:

So "The Other" showed up in Scarlet Spider recently, and made it sound as if Peter was destine to die because he rejected him. Interesting.

Yeah,its.....interesting....

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#235  Edited By PunyParker

Anyone noticed Superior Spider-Man NEVER hang "upside down" stance....you know the classic!

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#236  Edited By Ninjablade09

@PunyParker said:

Anyone noticed Superior Spider-Man NEVER hang "upside down" stance....you know the classic!

He hasn't really been in a situation where he needs to on panel yet.

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#237  Edited By TDK_1997

I really hope that Slott picks up the pace with the new issue and finally does something interesting.

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#238  Edited By PunyParker

@Ninjablade09: Still....its something Peter would do!....

EDIT: I was wrong......Daredevil comic....

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#239  Edited By Ninjablade09

@PunyParker said:

@Ninjablade09: Still....its something Peter would do!....

EDIT: I was wrong......Daredevil comic....

Oh ya forgot about that. Was gonna say

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#240  Edited By PunyParker

@Ninjablade09:

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#241  Edited By Ninjablade09

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#242  Edited By Trevel8182

Poor Dr.Kafka

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#243  Edited By Phaedrusgr

HEY, GUYS!!!! It's amazing! No! It's superior! I've just found a scan from SSM 05 !!! It's Otto doing a trick with his spidey-powers, a trick that Peter never thought of! Otto is truly the real Spiderman.

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#244  Edited By Ninjablade09

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HEY, GUYS!!!! It's amazing! No! It's superior! I've just found a scan from SSM 05 !!! It's Otto doing a trick with his spidey-powers, a trick that Peter never thought of! Otto is truly the real Spiderman.

Haha love the scans. Funny thing in Superhero movie they did a similar thing.

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#245  Edited By animehunter

As you know I've been following and listing the solicits (list below) of where Spider-Ock / SpOck appears and I have noticed something starting with Issue 10.

The dates are taken from Marvel.com & Marvel Wikia, if they are not available the are calculate at two week / Monthly intervals

Superior Spider-man

Issue 1 - Synopsis & Cover OUT January 9th 2013

Issue 2 - Synopsis & Cover Only out January 30th 2013 (Preview)

Issue 3 - Synopsis & Cover (Could be an important issue) out February 6th 2013 (Preview)

Issue 4 - Synopsis & Cover out February 20st 2013 (Preview)

Issue 5 - Synopsis & Cover out March 6th 2013 (Date confirmed)

Issue 6 - Synopsis & Cover out Apprx March 20th 2013 (First Look) (UPDATED)

Issue 6.AU (Age of Ultron) - Synopsis & Cover out Approx April 03rd 2013 (Preview/First look, Comicvine) (UPDATED)

Issue 7 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx April 17th 2013

Issue 8 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx May 1st 2013

Issue 9 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx May 15th 2013 (NEW) - SUPERIOR NO MORE!

Issue 10 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx May 29th 2013 (NEW) - GREEN GOBLIN RETURNS

Issue 11 - No Page Yet Out Approx June 12th 2013 (NEW)

Avenging Spider-man

Issue 16 - Synopsis & Cover out January 16th 2013 (Preview)

Issue 17 - Synopsis & Cover out February 27th 2013 (Preview, Preview #2 Lettered)

Issue 18 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx March 20th 2013

Issue 19 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx April 24th 2013

Issue 20 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx May 22nd 2013

Issue 21 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx June 19th 2013

Issue 22 - No Page Yet out Approx June 19th 2013

Journey into Mystery

Issue 468 - Synopsis & Cover out January 30th 2013

Issue 469 - Synopsis & Cover out February 27th 2013 (Preview)

Alpha

Issue 1 - Synopsis & Cover out February 20th 2013

Issue 2 - Synopsis & Cover out Approx March 20th 2013

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ALPHA: BIG TIME #4 (OF 5)
• Alpha and Thor team up to have a totally EXCELLENT adventure!
• Superior Spider-Man informs Andy that his actions have ‘consequences’ whatever THAT means!
• Josh Fialkov & Nuno Plati (Amazing Spider-Man) continue the greatest story of the greatest superhero ever known!
Out Approx May 2013

Avenger

Issue 12 - Synopsis & Cover out May 2013 (Is the Superior Spider-man riding a giant TURKEY uhhh could be a CHICKEN, you be the judge)

If you read the solicits of previous issues (1-9) and other team-up issues they always referred to Spider-Ock as Superior spider-man, now starting with issue 10 of Superior Spider-man they have left out the Superior and just refer to him simply as Spider-man. To me this might be an indication it is Peter, because he would never call himself Superior, only Spider-Ock / SpOck ever did that.

I realise this isn't absolute proof of Peter's return and circumstantial at best, but you might agree, it is food for thought.

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#246  Edited By Phaedrusgr

I wish you were right, but I don't think that's the case.

ISSUE #20 - THE CHAMELEON SANCTION PART 1 of 2

• Can Spider-Man keep his secrets while facing off with the Secret Avengers?

• SHIELD has the Chameleon. The Superior Spider-Man wants him. Time to break into the SHIELD Helicarrier!

out Approx May 22rd 2013

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#247  Edited By animehunter

@Phaedrusgr: I took that into consideration, but I feel issues 20 & 21 would still be SpOck, even though Peter might return in Superior Spider-man #10. It would be similar to when they started Superior Spider-Man #1, Peter was still around as Spider-man in Avengers 1 to current issue and to be replaced by Superior Spider-man in issue 12.

It could be these issue/stories where written months before issue 10 was to be released.

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#248  Edited By Phaedrusgr

@animehunter: Crossed fingers then! Let's see, I do hope you're right and I'm wrong! Honestly!

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#249  Edited By PunyParker

Dont know about you guys....but i really enjoyed #4......i am the minority,but really i enjoyed it!....i like Comuncolli and really enjoyed Slott in this one!....,start bashing,i'll understand

Green Goblin isnt sure that he's Normy......remember Kingsley said to Urich,when he beat him,that he will be working for him?..ASM#697...maybe its him,in Normy's costume....(although,i want Norman to be Goblin again....he;s my favourite villian ever....behind him Joker...and i really want him to return,after a loooong time!....[after New Ways To Die])

@animehunter: Also,i would love the prospect of Superior Peter Parker(Pete ,not ock)....y'know,Peter but with Superior suit......iz'awesome!!

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#250  Edited By Ninjablade09

Finally broke down and picked up Superior 1-4. Have to say the art in 1-3 is great but the story felt kind of short and rushed. But then I read 4 and man was it actually good. I haven't read Amazing since like issue 593. So I haven't read the first Massacre arc. But I have to say the art was fantastic and the killer last page was great. I cant wait for issue 10 with Spidey vs. Goblin. I been waiting for that since New ways to die. Really enjoyed that arc.