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#1 Edited by animehunter (6078 posts) - - Show Bio

What would be your thoughts on this

Since issue #8 of Volume 4 Slott has been, ever so slightly seem be pushing to bring Bobbi Morse (Mockingbird) and Peter together, as shown by the following.

I placed them in order of how it progressed

1st from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. #3, 2nd from Amazing Spider-Man v4 #5, 3rd from Amazing Spider-Man v4 #11

and finally with another push after IMO using Power Play to show Mary Jane and Peter have moved on and that they no longer need each other, which also IMO was a wasted opportunity. We have the 4th from Amazing Spider-Man v4 #15

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. #3
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. #3
Amazing Spider-Man v4 #5
Amazing Spider-Man v4 #5
Amazing Spider-Man v4 #11
Amazing Spider-Man v4 #11
Amazing Spider-Man v4 #15
Amazing Spider-Man v4 #15

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#2 Posted by ItsaWorld (1938 posts) - - Show Bio

Well Slott did say that he would be giving Peter a new romance....buuuut knowing how well every other romance was received by readers, it'll be kaput fast. Every romance they have thrown at us has never been interesting or satisfying no matter what gimmick they gave to it. It's safer to place bets on how many issues the Spider/Mockingbird romance lasts before it sizzles to a crisp and becomes something no one remembers.

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#3 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (6051 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey needs a long lasting relationship with some X-woman.

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#4 Edited by blackspidey2099 (2091 posts) - - Show Bio

@itsaworld said:

Well Slott did say that he would be giving Peter a new romance....buuuut knowing how well every other romance was received by readers, it'll be kaput fast. Every romance they have thrown at us has never been interesting or satisfying no matter what gimmick they gave to it. It's safer to place bets on how many issues the Spider/Mockingbird romance lasts before it sizzles to a crisp and becomes something no one remembers.

This is true with most of the post-BND romances, but that was because they were either completely rushed with no build up, or the girl was a complete Mary Sue (Carlie).

Mockingbird, as an established character and one with her own series, is not going to be a Mary Sue, and as we can already see, the relationship has already been given some build up, so even readers who don't read her series still have a level of affinity for Bobbi. I doubt they will be hooking up until after Dead No More anyway, so that's even more opportunity for the writers. So, I think this relationship may actually have some potential! :) (Unless, as we all hope, the marriage is back next year...)

ASM #15 was kinda cruel with that MJ tease, but the end did leave me feeling a little better. Bobbi is no MJ, but I think she is a pretty cool girl for Peter. The dynamic of their relationship would be very interesting as well. I'm all for it, personally (though I wish we could have Captain Marvel, Black Cat, or MJ instead, LOL).

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#5 Posted by magnetic_eye (1635 posts) - - Show Bio

Just reading those panels with Mockingbird, Spidey, Anna and Robo Ock makes me realize how dumb it makes me feel for reading it again. The weird and wacky world of Slott's Spider-Man insults your intelligence. ?

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#6 Edited by Jimishim12 (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

Bobbi's too badass and alpha chick for someone on Peter's Peter's level. Which Pity the foo level mixed with completely mentally damaged, Bobbi is like too Highschool Punk Leader for him and is normal, with a backbone and completely free of emotional past turmoil.

But lets see if it works, and if it does it does.

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#7 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (11892 posts) - - Show Bio

@animehunter:

and finally with another push after IMO using Power Play to show Mary Jane and Peter have moved on and that they no longer need each other, which also IMO was a wasted opportunity. We have the 4th from Amazing Spider-Man v4 #15

When was that ??

I don´t think the possibility of them being back together is discarded, in the issue when Harry helped Augustus Roman after being shot in the party, when Peter was on stage the narration from his own words said he couldn´t concentrate because Mary Jane was there.

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#8 Posted by kcomicfan (4690 posts) - - Show Bio

I would be ok with Bobbi and Peter dating.

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#9 Posted by amazingfantasy (1538 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought ASM 11 made it a bit obvious. But yeah I think it's a cool decision.

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#10 Posted by Riscrit (218 posts) - - Show Bio

@animehunter: Good job on compiling those comic panels. I'm inclined to think that Slott is setting up Peter and Bobbi together.

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#11 Posted by Stahlflamme (4254 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course we need a new love interest in time for their new version of OMD, because apparently we're now bringing back storylines nobody liked as well.

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#12 Edited by ZariusII (2612 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackspidey2099 said:
@itsaworld said:

Well Slott did say that he would be giving Peter a new romance....buuuut knowing how well every other romance was received by readers, it'll be kaput fast. Every romance they have thrown at us has never been interesting or satisfying no matter what gimmick they gave to it. It's safer to place bets on how many issues the Spider/Mockingbird romance lasts before it sizzles to a crisp and becomes something no one remembers.

This is true with most of the pre-BND romances, but that was because they were either completely rushed with no build up, or the girl was a complete Mary Sue (Carlie).

Mockingbird, as an established character and one with her own series, is not going to be a Mary Sue, and as we can already see, the relationship has already been given some build up, so even readers who don't read her series still have a level of affinity for Bobbi. I doubt they will be hooking up until after Dead No More anyway, so that's even more opportunity for the writers. So, I think this relationship may actually have some potential! :) (Unless, as we all hope, the marriage is back next year...)

ASM #15 was kinda cruel with that MJ tease, but the end did leave me feeling a little better. Bobbi is no MJ, but I think she is a pretty cool girl for Peter. The dynamic of their relationship would be very interesting as well. I'm all for it, personally (though I wish we could have Captain Marvel, Black Cat, or MJ instead, LOL).

One thing fans may have missed here is that this potential/probable love interest has a OMD connection...or rather the Skrull that took Bobbi's place does, as that impersonator's soul was claimed by Mephisto. Once again, a cheeky little nod there from Slott and yet ANOTHER potential hint

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#13 Posted by TheExile285 (4353 posts) - - Show Bio

Bobbi's too badass and alpha chick for someone on Peter's Peter's level. Which Pity the foo level mixed with completely mentally damaged, Bobbi is like too Highschool Punk Leader for him and is normal, with a backbone and completely free of emotional past turmoil.

But lets see if it works, and if it does it does.

That actually sounds like it'd make for an interesting relationship to me.

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#14 Posted by TheExile285 (4353 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course we need a new love interest in time for their new version of OMD, because apparently we're now bringing back storylines nobody liked as well.

When was that announced?

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#15 Posted by Stahlflamme (4254 posts) - - Show Bio

@theexile285: Not yet. But we've got clone saga again, Marvel likes to make fans angry, and Spider-Man doesn't learn a thing, how long is it gonna take?

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#16 Posted by ZariusII (2612 posts) - - Show Bio

@stahlflamme said:

Of course we need a new love interest in time for their new version of OMD, because apparently we're now bringing back storylines nobody liked as well.

When was that announced?

There's been a lot of hints lately that Marvel will be revisiting OMD soon, there's the Mephisto visit from Spider-Man/Deadpool, Peter and MJ allmost recalled a predicament where versions of them were married and had a daughter (the one they gave up to save May) during "Power Play" , and the afore-mentioned Mephisto connection to Mockingbird (or a version of Mockingbird).

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#17 Posted by izamanaick (227 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (11892 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackspidey2099:

This is true with most of the post-BND romances, but that was because they were either completely rushed with no build up, or the girl was a complete Mary Sue (Carlie).

I actually liked Carlie, she was a very sweet and smart girl.

Unless, as we all hope, the marriage is back next year

Why would the marriage be back next year ??

@zariusii said:
@theexile285 said:
@stahlflamme said:

Of course we need a new love interest in time for their new version of OMD, because apparently we're now bringing back storylines nobody liked as well.

When was that announced?

There's been a lot of hints lately that Marvel will be revisiting OMD soon, there's the Mephisto visit from Spider-Man/Deadpool, Peter and MJ allmost recalled a predicament where versions of them were married and had a daughter (the one they gave up to save May) during "Power Play" , and the afore-mentioned Mephisto connection to Mockingbird (or a version of Mockingbird).

Why do I always miss this stuff ?? When did that happen ??

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#20 Posted by izamanaick (227 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackspidey2099:

This is true with most of the post-BND romances, but that was because they were either completely rushed with no build up, or the girl was a complete Mary Sue (Carlie).

I actually liked Carlie, she was a very sweet and smart girl.

Unless, as we all hope, the marriage is back next year

Why would the marriage be back next year ??

@zariusii said:
@theexile285 said:
@stahlflamme said:

Of course we need a new love interest in time for their new version of OMD, because apparently we're now bringing back storylines nobody liked as well.

When was that announced?

There's been a lot of hints lately that Marvel will be revisiting OMD soon, there's the Mephisto visit from Spider-Man/Deadpool, Peter and MJ allmost recalled a predicament where versions of them were married and had a daughter (the one they gave up to save May) during "Power Play" , and the afore-mentioned Mephisto connection to Mockingbird (or a version of Mockingbird).

Why do I always miss this stuff ?? When did that happen ??

That's when it happened.

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#21 Edited by Jimishim12 (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL still taking that parody team up title seriously for clues for shipping fuel, never change guys.

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#22 Posted by TheHeaven_Guardian10 (2397 posts) - - Show Bio

@jimishim12: That has to be one of the most shallow, immature, shortsighted and asinine thighs I ever heard of.

I like Mockingbird very much and I would be up for her becoming Peter's new lady, but the problem I have with it. That nothing really real well coe from, give this lameass rule that says Peter must be single and dating forever. I also don't trust Slott to write a pivotal and palpable relationship.

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#23 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter is better than a deaged and MCUified Lance Hunter.

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#25 Edited by darthfury78 (1435 posts) - - Show Bio

@theheaven_guardian10 said:

@jimishim12: That has to be one of the most shallow, immature, shortsighted and asinine thighs I ever heard of.

I like Mockingbird very much and I would be up for her becoming Peter's new lady, but the problem I have with it. That nothing really real well come from, give this lameass rule that says Peter must be single and dating forever. I also don't trust Slott to write a pivotal and palpable relationship.

I doubt that Slott will ever do a relationship between Peter and a heroine. Afterall, he's the guy who vetoed the developing relationship between Peter and Carol Danvers. The only other relationship was Peter Parker and Jessica Drew, which might had been shotdown in favor of Hawkeye and Jessica Drew. What would be a good idea is for Peter to develop his relationship with a heroine who has a day job, like Jennifer Walters(lawyer) or Greer Grant(Police Officer). Even The Black Widow and Silver Sable might have been a fun partnership. But all Marvel has done is wasted those moments in favor of relationships that no one cares about. The only other Spider-Man created character who could get back with Peter is Betty Brant.

I have no problems with Bobbi having a relationship with Peter as there is enough to support it, as long as the story is developed very well. But I would rather see their friendship develop first before any kind of relationship takes place. The same goes for the other heroines I mentioned as well as Psylocke(the only X-Character who would work well with Peter; but in her original body as the twin sister of Brain Braddock).....

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#26 Posted by BlackSuit (365 posts) - - Show Bio

A relationship with Bobbi makes sense. They fight together for a while and Bobbi is a established and well developed character (unlike all other women they tried to ship with Peter). The romance can work, both have superpower and can fight together, Bobbi is witty like Peter and have a strong personality like other women in Peter's life (MJ, Felicia). And other thing, Bobbi is a scientist, she is biologist and Peter is biophysicist, so there is potential to they talk about science (ex: they developing a new gadget or discussing anything related to a mission or a villain that involves science). Another thing, in the Mockingbird the Super Soldier serum she received was a untested formula and now she is suffering with collateral effects, Peter's sense of responsibility can led him to take care of her and try to find a treatment.

The problem is how said romance would be developed. We didn't have too much build up, all we had was he saving her once, later we discover Mockingbird may be fallen by Peter because... Ana Maria said so. Later, Peter presents her to Aunt May, what implies they don't have just a professional relationship and are already in a serious thing (I would not introduce a woman to my mother/aunt if it was not serious). But, if they are getting steady all happened off screen. It is awful! The same happened with the last Asian girlfriend, we were informed that they were together, so we had a scene of her feeding him Chinese food in the mouth using chopsticks and later she tries to kill him and they broke up (off screen). A romance needs much more than that. It needs drama, character development, the couple flirting and exchanging actual dialogue, it needs conflict. We are not getting that.

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#27 Posted by jayskee (3817 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm good with it.

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#28 Posted by ShadowPro (2623 posts) - - Show Bio

I really hope, I am really appealed for the idea, just hope that if they do, they won't end it in a crap fast if way as always

Is a very interesting ship

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#29 Posted by ursaber (4213 posts) - - Show Bio

I really hope, I am really appealed for the idea, just hope that if they do, they won't end it in a crap fast if way as always

Is a very interesting ship

I can guarantee that should Slott pair them up, their relationship will not be likable and will end catastrophically. Slott is terrible at romance and doesn't really care for it. Just look at what he did to Mary Jane, Carlie Cooper and the nymphomaniac creation Silk.

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#30 Edited by ZariusII (2612 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowpro said:

I really hope, I am really appealed for the idea, just hope that if they do, they won't end it in a crap fast if way as always

This is most certaingly going to happen. Hell if Bobbi's title had continued, it apparently was never going to happen because the writer of her ongoing had plans to pair her back up with Clint.

Not to mention Bobbi may have potential rivals in the form of the new character Rebecca London and possibly even MJ again, as they will be part of the Spectacular Spider-Man comic, which will have storylines that will be consequential to the main book and vice versa.

The romance can be extended via these kind of complications to make it more 'interesting', but it really won't matter that much to any reader who is aware Marvel continue to promote Peter and MJ as a couple in mediums such as multiple variant covers, Renew Your Vows and the newspaper strip. Bobbi stands no chance of competing with their union.

It is, as Slott says, a force of nature.

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#31 Posted by Solid_Snake97 (7579 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott can't write female characters properly anyway.

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#32 Posted by ShadowPro (2623 posts) - - Show Bio

I just love that even aunt may is shipping them

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#33 Posted by ursaber (4213 posts) - - Show Bio

I just love that even aunt may is shipping them

She's desperate. At this point she would ship him with just about anyone who could give her grandchildren.

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#34 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (11892 posts) - - Show Bio

It seemed that way but Slott simply forgot and dropped it.

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#35 Edited by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't mind it.

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#36 Posted by ursaber (4213 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

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#37 Posted by Bumpaddle (128 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm okay with it but Slott needs to go.

Love, Bumpaddle.

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#38 Edited by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

I would rather him with Mary Jane more than any other character, but I'm not sure it's going to happen at the point.

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#39 Posted by ursaber (4213 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

I would rather him with Mary Jane more than any other character, but I'm not sure it's going to happen at the point.

Slott completely butchers any sort of romance. Nothing is gonna come of Peter and Bobbi. Slott's material is atrocious and it won't get better. Any romance with Peter is destined to end in misery and nothingness and sadly its not just because of Slott.

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#40 Posted by Dernman (22926 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:
@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

I would rather him with Mary Jane more than any other character, but I'm not sure it's going to happen at the point.

Slott completely butchers any sort of romance. Nothing is gonna come of Peter and Bobbi. Slott's material is atrocious and it won't get better. Any romance with Peter is destined to end in misery and nothingness and sadly its not just because of Slott.

Lets all just agree that Slott needs to go.

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#41 Posted by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:
@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:
@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

I would rather him with Mary Jane more than any other character, but I'm not sure it's going to happen at the point.

Slott completely butchers any sort of romance. Nothing is gonna come of Peter and Bobbi. Slott's material is atrocious and it won't get better. Any romance with Peter is destined to end in misery and nothingness and sadly its not just because of Slott.

Lets all just agree that Slott needs to go.

Truth

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#42 Posted by ursaber (4213 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: @newworldorder:

All I hope is for Slott to continue writing ASM into the ground past the breaking point so that Marvel finally fires Slott and revitalizes Spider Man the only possible way and that is by destroying OMD regardless of all the contingencies and supposed locks they have so the marriage is never reinstated.

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#43 Edited by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:

@dernman: @newworldorder:

All I hope is for Slott to continue writing ASM into the ground past the breaking point so that Marvel finally fires Slott and revitalizes Spider Man the only possible way and that is by destroying OMD regardless of all the contingencies and supposed locks they have so the marriage is never reinstated.

I honestly think Spider-Man just needs a reboot altogether.

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#44 Posted by ursaber (4213 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:

@dernman: @newworldorder:

All I hope is for Slott to continue writing ASM into the ground past the breaking point so that Marvel finally fires Slott and revitalizes Spider Man the only possible way and that is by destroying OMD regardless of all the contingencies and supposed locks they have so the marriage is never reinstated.

I honestly think Spider-Man just needs a reboot altogether.

Good gracious NO! That would mean making Peter a teenager again and that's the stuff of nightmares because he would never age at all. He would remain perpetually fifteen for the remainder of the existence and you can bet there will be no marriage.

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#45 Posted by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:
@ursaber said:

@dernman: @newworldorder:

All I hope is for Slott to continue writing ASM into the ground past the breaking point so that Marvel finally fires Slott and revitalizes Spider Man the only possible way and that is by destroying OMD regardless of all the contingencies and supposed locks they have so the marriage is never reinstated.

I honestly think Spider-Man just needs a reboot altogether.

Good gracious NO! That would mean making Peter a teenager again and that's the stuff of nightmares because he would never age at all. He would remain perpetually fifteen for the remainder of the existence and you can bet there will be no marriage.

Oh, I mean the Marvel universe as a whole needs one big reboot. It's long overdue.

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#46 Edited by BlueHope (2561 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

At this point I'm ok with anything that is not fanfiction lvl bulshit like his previous relationship with Silk.

Silk x Spiderman was the WORST romantic relationship I ever saw in comics.

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#47 Posted by ursaber (4213 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluehope said:
@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

At this point I'm ok with anything that is not fanfiction lvl bulshit like his previous relationship with Silk.

Silk x Spiderman was the WORST romantic relationship I ever saw in comics.

Every supposed relationship Peter had post OMD was the worst thing ever. Mary Jane is Peter's one true love, his Lois Lane. Pairing him up with other characters will yield nothing.

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#48 Posted by Dernman (22926 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:
@ursaber said:

@dernman: @newworldorder:

All I hope is for Slott to continue writing ASM into the ground past the breaking point so that Marvel finally fires Slott and revitalizes Spider Man the only possible way and that is by destroying OMD regardless of all the contingencies and supposed locks they have so the marriage is never reinstated.

I honestly think Spider-Man just needs a reboot altogether.

Good gracious NO! That would mean making Peter a teenager again and that's the stuff of nightmares because he would never age at all. He would remain perpetually fifteen for the remainder of the existence and you can bet there will be no marriage.

Oh, I mean the Marvel universe as a whole needs one big reboot. It's long overdue.

I would have disagreed with that some time Pre Modern Secret Wars but Marvel has been screwing up their universe so bad lately you'd think they were int4ntianlly making crap to see how bad they can go before people will stop buying.

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#49 Posted by Dernman (22926 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluehope said:
@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

At this point I'm ok with anything that is not fanfiction lvl bulshit like his previous relationship with Silk.

Silk x Spiderman was the WORST romantic relationship I ever saw in comics.

Silk shouldn't have existed in the first place. How many Spider's do we really need watering down the concept?

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#50 Posted by ursaber (4213 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:
@bluehope said:
@ursaber said:
@newworldorder said:

Wouldn't mind it.

I would. Very much. Spider Man's only true love interest is Mary Jane. Until they get back together Peter should not be with other women and should suffer the effects of OMD until they are destroyed.

And screw Slott BTW.

At this point I'm ok with anything that is not fanfiction lvl bulshit like his previous relationship with Silk.

Silk x Spiderman was the WORST romantic relationship I ever saw in comics.

Silk shouldn't have existed in the first place. How many Spider's do we really need watering down the concept?

Let's count them down:

  1. Miles Morales
  2. Jessica Drew
  3. Anya Corazon
  4. Ben Reilly
  5. Kaine
  6. Silk
  7. Spider Gwen
  8. Spider Man 2099