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#1 Posted by ptsteelers (79 posts) - - Show Bio

Now THAT is one creepy looking Tick!! ;-)

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#2 Edited by ia0delond (199 posts) - - Show Bio

About the Captain America thing.

It looks like he did it but we don't see him doing it. The book has not been prude about him brutally killing the apes. Plus it will be super weird if he just executed him after letting him cauterize his stumps. They faked the death of Selvig and there is zero chances Zemo's story is over after the plane crash despite the fact we do see a body. In an other hand he did attempt to kill Jack Flag. But only because he though he had no other choices. He did not have to kill Red Ghost.

I really enjoy the story so far and I can't wait to read the next part, but this I just don't buy it.

By the way about the Thunderbolts if you read it, do you think Kobik "fixed" Moonstone when she healed her in issue two like she did for Steve ?

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#3 Posted by gmanfromheck (42524 posts) - - Show Bio

@ia0delond: I agree. I have my doubts since the one thing was off panel. It seemed very likely it happened, but we'll have to wait and see.

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#4 Posted by nappystr8 (1548 posts) - - Show Bio

I totally agree with Mat on the Tick; both in regards to the positive and negative points of the show. I went into it with a little chip on my shoulder because I wished it would be a continuation of the last live action show, but it totally won me over. Really hope it gets picked up.

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#5 Posted by Mutant God (3957 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like Captain America killing. Also I don't like that Marvel killed a FF character.

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#6 Posted by Mark_Stephen (2616 posts) - - Show Bio

On the Captain America thing: it's just murder. I know marvel wants me to be shocked and angry and unload on the net, but this is marvel and this is Captain America. This is what they do, if they aren't shredding a character for the sake of a stunt then they just aren't writing. Maybe when he rapes the Red Skull's daughter I'll work up a bit of shock, until then this is normal for marvel.

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#7 Edited by Bl00dwerK (956 posts) - - Show Bio

If nobody buys comics w/new characters then how did the current popular characters get popular? I think Marvel is trying to rush "diversity" instead of letting it happen organically. Introduce brand new characters in established team books, or in solo books, and see how people like them. Release a limited series, like four of six issues, before trying to make every new character a classic right out of the box. As much as I didn't care for Bendis' X-Men run I did like his new mutants, especially Eva Bell. Brian didn't bring them in as legacy characters. They had their own identities, their own power sets, and went from there. I don't know about most people, but I would buy a series about them.

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#8 Posted by judasnixon (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh my god I can listen to Tony saying "Boob" over and over again................. "Boob!"

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#9 Posted by Mark_Stephen (2616 posts) - - Show Bio

If nobody buys comics w/new characters then how did the current popular characters get popular? I think Marvel is trying to rush "diversity" instead of letting it happen organically. Introduce brand new characters in established team books, or in solo books, and see how people like them. Release a limited series, like four of six issues, before trying to make every new character a classic right out of the box. As much as I didn't care for Bendis' X-Men run I did like his new mutants, especially Eva Bell. Brian didn't bring them in as legacy characters. They had their own identities, their own power sets, and went from there. I don't know about most people, but I would buy a series about them.

I think back when new characters were being introduced there was a less of a risk. If it didn't work the comic wasn't that expensive, if it did work then the comic book company had another property to use. It's like movies, a movie can make a profit but some movies are considered failure if they aren't block busters. At the moment marvel comics are upward of 3.99, I can't afford to buy characters I like at 3.99 and I don't even think of buying the ones that are more expensive. So it become a self fulfilling prophesy from the comic book companies and they can blame the fans.

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#10 Posted by inferiorego (25733 posts) - - Show Bio

@bl00dwerk said:

If nobody buys comics w/new characters then how did the current popular characters get popular? I think Marvel is trying to rush "diversity" instead of letting it happen organically. Introduce brand new characters in established team books, or in solo books, and see how people like them. Release a limited series, like four of six issues, before trying to make every new character a classic right out of the box. As much as I didn't care for Bendis' X-Men run I did like his new mutants, especially Eva Bell. Brian didn't bring them in as legacy characters. They had their own identities, their own power sets, and went from there. I don't know about most people, but I would buy a series about them.

I think back when new characters were being introduced there was a less of a risk. If it didn't work the comic wasn't that expensive, if it did work then the comic book company had another property to use. It's like movies, a movie can make a profit but some movies are considered failure if they aren't block busters. At the moment marvel comics are upward of 3.99, I can't afford to buy characters I like at 3.99 and I don't even think of buying the ones that are more expensive. So it become a self fulfilling prophesy from the comic book companies and they can blame the fans.

Adding to this:

Back in the 60s, we had an influx of superheroes. People were hungry for it, and that's where the majority of the stuff we read now comes from. It was all essentially new, aside from the few Golden Age characters, most of which had yet to be rebooted. However, today's generation of readers, as a whole, don't care about new characters as much because we already have so much to choose from. A well-established character, with a long history, is more interesting than something new to most comic book readers. Familiarity is comfort.

It's all name recognition. We rather buy Band-Aid than generic bandages. We want Sony & LG tvs over Sorny (Simpsons). Spider-Man is more appealing than whatever new character that comes out. That's just the way we're wired, as humans.

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#11 Posted by Mark_Stephen (2616 posts) - - Show Bio

Not the way I'm wired, but then I work on a severe budget.

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#12 Posted by Bl00dwerK (956 posts) - - Show Bio

@mark_stephen said:
@bl00dwerk said:

If nobody buys comics w/new characters then how did the current popular characters get popular? I think Marvel is trying to rush "diversity" instead of letting it happen organically. Introduce brand new characters in established team books, or in solo books, and see how people like them. Release a limited series, like four of six issues, before trying to make every new character a classic right out of the box. As much as I didn't care for Bendis' X-Men run I did like his new mutants, especially Eva Bell. Brian didn't bring them in as legacy characters. They had their own identities, their own power sets, and went from there. I don't know about most people, but I would buy a series about them.

I think back when new characters were being introduced there was a less of a risk. If it didn't work the comic wasn't that expensive, if it did work then the comic book company had another property to use. It's like movies, a movie can make a profit but some movies are considered failure if they aren't block busters. At the moment marvel comics are upward of 3.99, I can't afford to buy characters I like at 3.99 and I don't even think of buying the ones that are more expensive. So it become a self fulfilling prophesy from the comic book companies and they can blame the fans.

Adding to this:

Back in the 60s, we had an influx of superheroes. People were hungry for it, and that's where the majority of the stuff we read now comes from. It was all essentially new, aside from the few Golden Age characters, most of which had yet to be rebooted. However, today's generation of readers, as a whole, don't care about new characters as much because we already have so much to choose from. A well-established character, with a long history, is more interesting than something new to most comic book readers. Familiarity is comfort.

It's all name recognition. We rather buy Band-Aid than generic bandages. We want Sony & LG tvs over Sorny (Simpsons). Spider-Man is more appealing than whatever new character that comes out. That's just the way we're wired, as humans.

If I buy a Sony TV I want a Sony TV, not a Vizio with Sony's name and logo stamped on it.

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#13 Posted by Mark_Stephen (2616 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm happy with a tv that works, it's finding something on to watch that I often have a problem with. But essentially what sells is what's going to be out there the most. I can understand that, but in many ways recycling a plot or storyline is counterproductive. The stories become predictable, the writers get lazy because no matter what they get paid, the publishers are happy with the money and when the decline comes you get what we have now: bigger stunts. Hollywood studios in the 1950's tried a lot of things to compete with tv and none of them worked. Right now we have civil war 2, the plot of witch is such threadbare hackery that it's almost a parody, but it will probably sell. But will civil war 10 or 20 sell?