WW3: US and NATO vs Russia, China and North Korea

No Nukes? NATO. Russia currently struggling having all types of issues against a propped up Ukraine. Nobody knows what modern China is capable of and N. Korea would be flattened in a week if they weren't holding the S. Korea at gunpoint.

Cringe and inb4lock.

Russia and China are too vast to be totally eradicated. Peoples of the wide open spaces continue their primitive life.

USA and NATO, all the population centers are destroyed, the armed fugitives massacre the surviving peasants and then die of hunger.

Who wins ? Africa !

Assuming no nukes are used then I'm gonna back NATO here. Russia had several weeks of build up near the Ukrainian border and yet they're still taking heavy losses and the fact that their economy is not doing well against the sanctions. China has the manpower but most of their equipment is still untested, I don't think they can carry the other nations to victory. North Korea meanwhile is outdated in technology as well as they haven't had a war ever since the 1950s iirc.

If nukes are used however, then it ends with a MAD scenario.

Lol, US isn't far behind Russia in the nuke department, and it's easier for the states to land nukes than it is for Russia to land theirs.

Truth be told, no one wins in a nuclear war. That's why it's a very last resort and a desperation move whenever it's mentioned

@eredin12: Tbf War in Afghanistan lasted for almost 20 years and I wouldn't really trust information coming from Russian Media or the Kremlin 100% considering days before the invasion of Ukraine they denied that they were planning to invade but instead was just planning to do military drills. And the fact that Putin refuses to call it an invasion and only calls it "special military operation" While also having help from Belarus.

There's also multiple reports of VDV which is considered elite being killed in the frontlines, videos of russian armored vehicles getting blowned up or abandoned because of lack of fuel/ammunition. As well as russian aircraft being blowned up.

Although it's obvious that Ukraine is highballing the casualties from the Russian side there is no denying it however that the Russians are also lowballing their losses so that they can appear to be stronger considering that mass protests about the war is happening on their cities like Moscow, or St. Petersburg.

Most of Russian casualty being reported by countries other than Ukraine, Russian or Belarus are at the very least in the thousand to several thousands area.

@eredin12: Tbh I also expect that it will not last that long but if Ukraine did manage to somehow hold out long enough, that more civilian protesting happens in places like Moscow and Russia's economy to go even more screwed to the point that it isn't worth it to continue anymore then yeah. I think Ukraine's goal isn't to completely win but make the Russian goal to victory be as much as bloody as possible.

I honestly think they tried to blitzkrieg their way to Kyiv as fast as possible but in the process they experienced much more resistance than what they expected and supply lines is being disrupted. Which is something considering Kyiv is only around 100km away from Belarus.

Earth loses...

No nukes

Russia, China, North Korea