Would you shoot a trophy hunter to save baby elephants if it's legal?

Yes, but I'd stop short of lethal force. I'd just shoot him in the kneecap.

I value human life over the life of an animal even if the person is a scumbag.

if its the only option.

you shouldnt choose something just becouse its legal.

@kingofwakanda: Yeah I don't want to kill anyone either but I'd gladly shoot him in the ass.

Yes, I would hope that I'd have the strength to shoot him. It's hard to tell what you'd do in a certain situation until you've been in it, but I hope that I'd shoot him if it was the only way to stop him.

Poachers are a scourge on the world, especially Africa and India, their trade funds terrorism and organized crime across multiple continents. Elephants and rhinos are just the beginning of the damage they cause, there is a very real and very large human cost to what they do. I have no more sympathy for them than I'd have for ISIS or Al-Qaeda insurgents.

Would I chase a hunter who is literally armed for elephant, through his home bush, and try to shoot him?

No. No I wouldn't.

lol @ people saying you would shoot nonfatally. No you wouldn't. For one-you're not that good. Two-there isn't such thing as a gunshot that won't be fatal. Just ones that we were lucky enough to treat in time.

If you shoot someone in the leg with a rifle, the bullet will shatter the femur without even touching it. In the middle of the bush, that person is dead.

Yes.

No of course.

Don't ruin this hypothetical scenario! Don't you know all Viners have Bullseye like accuracy?

Yeah, I'd drop their ass in a single shot lmao.

@kingofwakanda: True. I'm basing my assumptions on the average human, and I should be basing them on the average viner. I stand corrected.

Oh for sure! Trophy hunters are the worst.

Probably yeah. I really dont see why some random human life is any more valuable than an elephant.

I would never be able to bring myself to kill someone.

You know who is worse than someone who kills elephants?

Uhhh someone who kills people...

Would you shoot a trophy hunter going after an endangered buck species in Michigan?

@paytience: Bullets wont shatter bone without hitting the bone.

No.

No, but sometimes I'd want to.

hell no we're all TEAM HUMANS guys

Absolutely. Trophy Hunters are just cowardly poachers.

I would shoot the baby elephant and suffocate the poacher By shoving his head up the elephant's arse.

Yes and then shoot the elephants myself for the goods.

The trophy hunter is armed to hunt elephant and most likely has some experience hunting... im not going to endanger my life for a elephant id let the authorities know and leave it at that nor would I want to kill a human being for killing an animal

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Nah. Elephants have never done anything for me. And human life is more valuable than animals anyway.

Humans ARE animals, and our lives are definitely not more valuable; as valuable, sure.

@crimson_lord: Humans are slowly destroying the Earth. Objectively speaking wildlife is just as valuable.

@iron_tiger:

Humans ARE animals

I agree. You are correct. However, I’d assume most people actually knew what I meant without being overly technical...

our lives are definitely not more valuable; as valuable, sure.

From what perspective are you looking? The planet? Some objective outsider of Earth? Lol. If you’re a human and don’t identify or relate to human life more than other animals, then I don’t know what to tell you, nor do I see anything that can be gained from talking further...

@mister_stark: I’d say the same thing above to you, tbh. ?‍♂️

@crimson_lord: You're part of the problem you think because we have a higher level of brain function that we are more valuable than other life forms which isn't really true with humans Earth would thrive with Humans it's dying quickly. Human life is as valuable but it's not more valuable.

@mister_stark: yes, yes that’s nice. Believe what you will.

@crimson_lord: That's a fact Humans cause more problems than they fix. Imagine a world without wildlife vs a world without Humans.

I'm not saying Human life is less valuable I'm just stating that wild life is highly valuable.

On topic no I wouldn't murder is murder I would fire into the air and attempt to scare him off while scaring the elephant.

@mister_stark:

That's a fact Humans cause more problems than they fix. Imagine a world without wildlife vs a world without Humans.

Why would I want to imagine a world where no humans exist and therefore I do not exist? That’s incredibly silly. You seem to prefer wildlife over people and thus there’s not a lot to talk about. ?‍♂️

I‘m not saying Human life is less valuable I’m just stating that wildlife is highly valuable.

Ok... I mean I never said otherwise. Everything has its purpose. Your argument appeared to be making the claim you prefer wildlife to people... But I grow bored with this. As I said earlier, believe what you want.

@crimson_lord: I don't prefer either over the other, you made it seem like wild live is obsolete I was stating that it's as valuable as human life nothing more.

Just shoot him in the kneecaps

@mister_stark: I mean you’ve edited your comments at this point. You clearly said something different earlier, lol. But whateves. ?‍♂️

No, it’s illegal. It’s murder or attempted murder. If you have justifiable cause meaning the hunter takes a shot at you or points his weapon at you then that’s entirely different, but flat out shooting him when he’s about to shoot the animal is wrong. Committing a crime to prevent a crime is still a criminal act and punishable by law. Who here wants to do life in an African prison because of an elephant? Explain to your loved ones why you’ll never see them again. “It was for the baby elephant, momma. That man had to die, so that the elephant could live...provided some lions don’t kill it.” Actions have consequences, sometime long term repercussions that affect people beyond your personal sense of righteousness.

Poachers in Africa usually have no hang ups about killing people too.

Totally. If it was legal.

@crimson_lord: I edited some typos but that's it.

I was referring to you claiming that you said human life is AS valuable when you initially said animals and wildlife are more valuable than people... Your original message (which is seen in my email notification) and subsequent messages (saying imagine A world without humans or without animals) clearly reflect a different idea entirely...

If you changed stances, that’s great. You seem to be somewhat dishonest with the stealth editing...

@crimson_lord: That was the typo I fixed no person in the right mind would think animal life is more important than human life I've always had the mind set of them both being valuable. I just messed my sentence I meant to right " objectively speaking animal life is just as valuable".

@mister_stark:

no person in their right mind would think animal life is more important

you say that, yet here we are...

plus, comments in the thread reflect otherwise as well, not just yours. But fine, Ill apologize and assume you weren’t being dishonest. Sorry, bud. ?

@crimson_lord: I'm not perfect writer half the stuff I post on this site is changed because either it didn't come out like I wanted of it was messed up in some way.

Humans have no "value" whatsoever, we're only self important but are of zero importance here on earth.

Wouldn't a trophy hunter go after a more mature specimen than an infant?

Sports hunter usually apply for a license to hunt which as far as I know make their hobby completely legal, and in some instances are important part of wildlife management and conservation.

Poaching on the other hand is often define as a criminal act and you are duty bound to report any lawless activities to the authorities.

Shooting a suspected "poacher" is kinda extreme for most bystanders who had very little experience or relavant knowledge about the activities in natural parks.

I would say I would call the Park Rangers and have them sort it out if the guy is actually poaching, sports hunting, defending himself from wildlife attack, or whatever.

@richard_stank: ok... it’s so cool that you feel that way. That didn’t need to be directed at me, but whatever. ?‍♂️

@mister_stark: that’s reasonable. I may have jumped the gun a bit and been more hostile than necessary. I’ve been on CV too long, lol.

Sure.