Why is it wrong to say White Power?

I mean, people seem to appreciate the ''Black Power'... So i was asking myself:Why is it wrong to say White Power?

Pilasy:La Voix d'un homme

I believe all that power sh!t is stupid in general.

Nobody likes a humble brag, that's why

Because the term "black power" is about taking pride in the fight to override years of discrimination, subjugation, and oppression. Saying "white power" is like rooting for the house to win in Vegas or in this case like marching in front of a school board to say "Brown was right!"

White power all they way, the white power ranger was always my favorite.

In a serious note, it shouldn't be wrong to celebrate one own ethnicity, but like the word snigger, white power have some bad association with it. White power is seen as crushing everybody around you to prove the white race is superior. Because of that horrible connotation behind the word, many people see it as offensive.

This.

White supremacy is bad, m'kay?

Blacks have historically had less power than whites, which is where the concept of Black Power comes from. Being for Black Power doesn't necessarily mean you're in favor of African American supremacy over all other races.

Blue power, mothaf*ckas, I just quoted a Michael Bay movie!

White power!!!

Isn't that the KKK's motto.

I think white people have things to be proud of. Such as winning independence from England and conquering a new land. Many technological advances. (I think) whites are the wealthiest race in the world and being in control of possibly the most powerful country in the world..... that being said, i 100% agree with this fellow poster and the term "white power" should not be used unless context is given:

Some questions are best unasked - in this case the phrase 'White Power' is associated with the oppression of minorities and continues to be the rallying cry of bigots across the states.

@pooty: I actually think the opposite. Pride should come from individual accomplishments or group accomplishments that the individual directly participated in. Taking pride for your country winning a war that occurred centuries before your birth is like when sports fans take pride in their team winning the championship. You didn't run in the winning score or play on the field nor did you personally fight the British off of our land over two centuries ago so why would you pat yourself on the back for another person's accomplishment?

OMG!! I said the same thing in another thread. I don't think anyone should take credit for anothers accomplishments just because you have the same color skin. I thought when you said "is about taking pride in the fight to override years of discrimination, subjugation, and oppression" you were talking about Slavery, Jim Crow etc. If you're talking about current conditions then...ok

@pooty: I consider it more of a call back to the height of the Civil Rights Movement, as if "Black Power" implies that youths can stand up to injustice as bravely and with as much integrity as their forefathers did in the 60's. Then again, I can see why that might seem like taking credit for other people's accomplishments. Maybe it's more about positive motivation for a group than an individual claiming glory for an accomplishment others have earned in his/her place. It gets more complex when you approach it critically.

turtle power > white power

@dngn4774: That makes sense.

Power of youth > everything else

@ryagan: LOL.

It must have something to do with that history of people thinking they were superior than everyone else just because of their skin color. I don't think "white power" is appropriate. It sounds like something the Klan or a neo-nazi group would say.

I have no problem with white people taking pride in where they come from. For example, Irish or Polish people. There's nothing wrong with it.

From my point of view many of people who are speaking against this White Power and at the same time for Black Power have another white thing - White Guilt. Which from my point of view makes literally zero sense. Past shall be not source of guilt but of pride becouse of achivements and of history lessons from errors. Guilt is killing people. If you guys are feeling guilty and you don't like what you ancestors did to make the world what it is now than perhaps you actually don't like what the world is?

@rubear: No, white power has a different meaning than black power.

People led who usually says white power are KkK, Skinheads, Neo-Nazis...notice a trend? Whites are already empowered, who are whites trying to gain power from?

its like if a man says "I am man, hear me roar!" society already thinks men are strong, who are you trying to remind that that you're strong too?

There's nothing really wrong in being proud of being white; I advocate no race to feel ashamed of who they are. White guilt as a concept is stupid and should be mocked - but let's not pretend that Neo-Nazi's don't hijack white power movements. I agree with comment #5.

Expand on what you mean by this.

@frozen: I am woman, hear me roar means that even though I am a Woman I am capable of powerful things...you know, like a powerful lion.

While us men are the standard of society. We rule the world. We're already empowered.

@superguy1591: Hmm. So the slogan of "White Power" is bad because bad people are using it with sense of superiority over other people because of their skin color and not acceptence of power. I get it, i'm feeling the same for some ukrainian slogans that looks disturbingly similar with nazi (and world war nazi) slogans. I suppose that Black Power is a way to feel pride for beign black and united for decdendatns of former slaves. Can you explain what concept of "positive discrimination" mean and how this Black Power is improving live in gettos?

white is right

@rubear: You know that im culturally English, right? Im not Ukrainian.

Anyway, Black power comes from the Civil Rights era. In America, African Americans were told that they are inferior to whites and they were kept down by the government and society. This goes all the way back to slavery when African Americans were told that they were slaves because they were inferior and that they were inferior because God cursed them.

This continued long after slavery into Jim Crow when African Americans were kept out of good schools, kept from good jobs, etc, etc.

The term black power was used by Civil Right Activists to tell black people that they are not inferior. That there is power and pride in being black. That they are EQUALS to whites. That need to be equal is what differs drastically between "white power" and "black power," since White power means anything but equality.

Black power is not discrimination; the slogan isn't "black power, white impotence." I have no idea why anyone would have a problem with black power, or why anyone would feel the need to say "white power."

So, because we are strong we are to be silent and humble, while the weak should shout out their power at us? that makes no sense to me AT ALL.

NO, we should be as proud of our power as anyone else, or we will see the power slip away. It is already going piece by piece. There is a lot of affirmative action going around. In my country it is literally better to be a refugee in the capital then to be born here.

@chimeroid: No one said you have to be ashamed of being a man. I'm a feminist, im a man, I am proud of being a man.

That being said, women aren't taught that same sense of pride. Think back to sayings like "you throw like a girl," or "act like a man, stop crying like a girl" or the fact that it's called "b!tching" when people say you're being weak and whinny.

Men are already empowered in society, there is no need for a movement for the furtherance of men. But, I suppose, if you feel the need to voice you pride as a man you should and can. It's America; if the KKK gets to march out on the streets with police escorts, MRAs should too.

@superguy1591: I know) I'm just pointng at similar situation to show that i understand)
Aaaah, i see. I forget that you had segregation after slavery... That also explains what i read about "systemic racism" and i suppose gettos (kept out of good schools, kept from good jobs, kept from good homes, etc, etc). Well, thank you for explanations.

@superguy1591: Men may be dominant in society but to posit that they have all the advantages is simply not true (for the West). In today's society, men are not given the care and privilege that women are given (in some aspects); while in other aspects, women are not given the same as men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNErQFmOwq0

I think that the MRA movement isn't really needed; but neither is the Feminist movement for the West. Both movements represent their own issues; MRA movements can highlight men's issues but for most of the case, only female issues are represented in Feminist causes - because the premise behind Feminism is that furthering the rights of women will bring equality.

BLUE POWER!

When an African American says "black power" he says rightfully so for his race and thus discluding him and separates him from our human civilization, because clearly he thinks we're different. When he says black power, he means for the white man to be heard, not every other race, but just for the white man.. Why???

If a simple person would just look and see how hilariously screwed up this country (USA) is with how it deals with race. A constant reminder Africans believe their ancestors were the only slaves yet the Irish, Polish and mostly everywhere else in the world has had oppression by somethin similar.. Called PEOPLE.

I bet most didn't even know that The Arab Slave Trade actually had more African slaves than the colonial slave trade of the United States. So, the whole "oppression" stuff is a good toot but it's really just people who are bad, not just this power scaling horsesh*t.

Black power means that I'm proud to be black despite all the racism and antiblackness that goes on in this world. Despite how we are considered infieror and are treated like crap and have been for centuries we aren't ashamed of our features like dark skin and coiled hair. White power means we think we are the superior and better race.

WHITE POWA

@iragexcudder: while they were treated bad the Irish, Polish etc. weren't slaves and that was a nationality dispute. Not to mention they were still considered people. Antiblack racism is worldwide.

I don't know about the Poles, but the Irish were slaves; for a long time that was a major source of tension between them and Britain because the Crown sold so many Irish slaves to their overseas colonies that in some places, the Irish slave population vastly exceeded the British master population. In the 17th century, Irish slavery had gotten so bad that nearly 50% of the country disappeared within 15 years.

@saren: the Irish weren't subject to chattel slavery like africans. Most of what the Irish were indentured servitude.

Indentured servitude was a system created to lure the Irish into contracts that were then ignored once they were across the Atlantic. The same people writing the contracts were the ones whipping them into submission when they asked for better food or wages or throwing them overboard on the way to Australia so the rest of a ship's crew would have something to eat. Indentured servitude has never been what it is on paper, anywhere in the world. It was practiced in the West Indies, East Asia and India as well, and it always descended into chattel slavery for the simple reason that the concept is a scam designed to trick people into believing they are not entering a system of chattel slavery.

The British hated the Irish in a way they never hated Africans because black slavery was primarily oriented around economic considerations and supremacist ideologies while Irish slavery was rooted in a violent strain of anti-Catholic hatred that was particularly powerful 400-500 years ago, promoted by both the Church and the Crown.

Pretty much this.

The answer to this OP shouldn't be difficult.

@saren: chattel slavery is worse than anything you could ever imagine. The Irish were treated like crap but it's nothing compared to chattel slavery. Black people weren't considered humans or even animals. We were nothing but property. They worked us to death, beat, starved, raped and castrated us. They told us we were dumb brutish inhumane animals. They made things out of our skin. Told us our hair skin and features were ugly. Made us hate ourselves. Nothing is worse than the Atlantic Slave trade.

This isn't any different from how most forms of slavery have historically worked. The same things all happened to Irish people. If anything, most modern forms of slavery are worse than the Atlantic slave trade because they're blindingly faster, vaster, better organized and harder to uproot since many of them are smack dab in the middle of militant hotzones. And really, is slavery some kind of competition now?

Dropping knowledge bombs, that Saren.