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Posted by modernww2fare (6637 posts) 1 year, 7 months ago

Poll: Who was worse - Hitler, Stalin or Mao? (168 votes)

Adolf Hitler 37%
Joseph Stalin 36%
Mao Zedong 27%
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#1 Posted by IceDemonKing (9974 posts) - - Show Bio

The president of Canada. Never seems to want to show up when we need him.

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#2 Posted by Mr_Dead_Guy (155 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't know why Adolf has a vote.

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#3 Posted by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

Mao killed more people, so him.

If we're going by evil acts, and not numbers, then Stalin.

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#5 Posted by TJD2814 (479 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89: Mao killed more people, so him.

If we're going by evil acts, and not numbers, then Stalin.

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#7 Edited by AllStarSuperman (42494 posts) - - Show Bio

Trump

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#8 Posted by removekebab (3746 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalin was an irredemable monster my dudes.

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#9 Posted by RDClip (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

Mao, he killed much more than either, destroyed Chinese culture during the cultural revolution and held the country back for decades. Unfortunately not many people know how much of a monster he is compared to other tyrants due to the Chinese communists basically seeing him as a saint.

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#12 Posted by Lord_Spectrum (4244 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89 said:

Mao killed more people, so him.

If we're going by evil acts, and not numbers, then Stalin.

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#13 Posted by Manchine (6321 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobama

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#14 Edited by dshipp17 (5250 posts) - - Show Bio

Despite body count, the worse of the three was clearly Hitler; we have to look to plans and goals; Hitler wanted to eliminate entire ethic groups and was stopped in his efforts, prematurely. Stalin and Mao were the worse dictators possible (and some of those Roman Emperors who persecuted Christians were even worse still, as they did have a similar, but inferior level of wickedness of a Hitler kind, as they wanted to cleans the world of all Christians, but not all other ethnic groups) , but Hitler was on a whole different level; he literally had an objective to wipe out the entire Jewish race and nonwhites from the face of the Earth and existence, and clearly had made great strides to that end, but was stopped short of achieving his goal, while the other two, as bad as they were, had nothing planned on that level.

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#15 Posted by RabumAlal (4667 posts) - - Show Bio

None of them did anything wrong. Mao doesn't have a mustache so him.

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#16 Posted by PenguinDust (8101 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89 said:

Mao killed more people, so him.

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@rdclip said:

Mao, he killed much more than either, destroyed Chinese culture during the cultural revolution and held the country back for decades. Unfortunately not many people know how much of a monster he is compared to other tyrants due to the Chinese communists basically seeing him as a saint.

Mao

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#17 Posted by LeeM724 (589 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly? All three did some seriously messed up sh!#t, however of all three the act that horrifies me the most was the Holodomor carried out by Stalin. Forced Starvation has to be one of the worst ways to go.

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#18 Edited by the_stegman (39864 posts) - - Show Bio

Hitler caused WWII, I'm saying him.

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#19 Posted by LpnQ (3955 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalin.

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#20 Posted by Orange_Water (6583 posts) - - Show Bio

Mao is the obvious choice killed far more people and pretty much sent the Chinese into a death spiral for several years.

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#21 Posted by Kairan1979 (25977 posts) - - Show Bio

@dshipp17 said:

Despite body count, the worse of the three was clearly Hitler; we have to look to plans and goals; Hitler wanted to eliminate entire ethic groups and was stopped in his efforts, prematurely. Stalin and Mao were the worse dictators possible (and some of those Roman Emperors who persecuted Christians were even worse still, as they did have a similar, but inferior level of wickedness of a Hitler kind, as they wanted to cleans the world of all Christians, but not all other ethnic groups) , but Hitler was on a whole different level; he literally had an objective to wipe out the entire Jewish race and nonwhites from the face of the Earth and existence, and clearly had made great strides to that end, but was stopped short of achieving his goal, while the other two, as bad as they were, had nothing planned on that level.

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#22 Posted by TheSuperor (5746 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalin

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#23 Posted by deactivated-5a20a68641bc7 (1969 posts) - - Show Bio

Life under Hitler was probably much better than life under Mao or Stalin, but if this is a moral question then it has to be either Hitler or Stalin.

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#24 Posted by dshipp17 (5250 posts) - - Show Bio

And, actually, if you look at the other two's technique, you can see how they could have gotten their inspiration from the activities of the Hitler regime; considering those activities, what the other two did was not separate and unique into their own. While at the same time, it looks like Hitler innovated what the Roman Emperors after Jesus did.

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#25 Posted by mrmonster (12863 posts) - - Show Bio

Mao, he had the highest death toll.

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#26 Posted by BlackLegRaph (5325 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on what metric you are using to judge. I'd say I view Stalin to be the worst.

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#27 Posted by Richard96 (5298 posts) - - Show Bio

Hitler

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#28 Edited by deactivated-5a84a212043e5 (2790 posts) - - Show Bio

Mao, not even close. IMO, we're just wired to pick Hitler (maybe Stalin) because of how historically demonized he is. Because China is a world power whose economy and manufacturing industry the world relies on, we tend to turn a blind eye to him.

His regime led to the destruction of thousands of years worth of culture, and is the foundation for the world's current largest human rights abuser, the CCP.

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#29 Posted by lettsplay10 (20589 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone thats not me

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#30 Posted by Kamik28 (52 posts) - - Show Bio

Rofl, how is Hitler the worse? He is a nice guy compared to the other 2.

Mao killed more than the other two combined, but Mao's deaths were due to inefficient policies and very poor leadership.

While Stalin was downright evil, he deliberately mass killed and forced his own people to die in gulags, while Hitler brought prosperity to Nazi Germany and the native Germans specifically targeting Jews and opposing the British.

Stalin was the worst human being in world war 2.

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#31 Posted by kfhrfdu_89_76k (5769 posts) - - Show Bio

Milton Friedman.

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#32 Posted by _Logos_ (1899 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalin, he was a smart and devious cunt, and the most evil of leaders, Hitler and Mao tie at second with similar goals as Stalin, but Hitler was just doing what the rest of Europe already wanted at the time (its not okay, but for the time period even Stalin's actions would've been viewed as more evil), and Mao caused the most deaths yes, but indirectly through his policies.

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#33 Edited by BlueHope (2680 posts) - - Show Bio

Hittler. Stalin and Mao killed more but hittler targeted innocent people from babies to elders just because they didn't fit his idea of "perfect human", if you were a non white or handicapped he would try to kill you no matter where, non germans would be second class citizens and all countries would be forced to bow down to his empire.

At least the Communists goals(or at least their promises being honest or not) were noble, hittler just said "screw you" to everybody but his group.

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#34 Posted by FirestormFate1919 (6065 posts) - - Show Bio

It's a close one between Mao and Stalin imo. Hitler was horrible, but not quite on their level.

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#35 Posted by cptstormsword (314 posts) - - Show Bio

Mao had that body count.

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#36 Posted by willpayton (21789 posts) - - Show Bio

Mao probably had the numbers, but I think it's really between Stalin and Hitler for pure evil. I'd probably go with Stalin between those two, but he was not much worse than Hitler.

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#37 Posted by anakon4 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

Hitler at least bumped the economy and didn't kill so many people of his. He is the best guy here.

Stalin drowned his country in blood, killed every important communist from revolution. Killed more people than Hitler, but at least had some industrial increase in relatively short time.

Mao was a a devil in human form.

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#38 Edited by anakon4 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

@dshipp17 said:

Despite body count, the worse of the three was clearly Hitler; we have to look to plans and goals; Hitler wanted to eliminate entire ethic groups and was stopped in his efforts, prematurely. Stalin and Mao were the worse dictators possible (and some of those Roman Emperors who persecuted Christians were even worse still, as they did have a similar, but inferior level of wickedness of a Hitler kind, as they wanted to cleans the world of all Christians, but not all other ethnic groups) , but Hitler was on a whole different level; he literally had an objective to wipe out the entire Jewish race and nonwhites from the face of the Earth and existence, and clearly had made great strides to that end, but was stopped short of achieving his goal, while the other two, as bad as they were, had nothing planned on that level.

Stalin at least protected his folk, which makes him better leader than anyone who kills willingly his own people. You are talking about Hitler like he was the only one who ever killed specificaly other race.

Americans killed around 60,000,000 of native americans.

Stalin killed up to 7, 500, 000 of his OWN people of hunger + millions in world war.

You really compare fanatic patriot, to fanatic idiots?

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#39 Posted by Kamik28 (52 posts) - - Show Bio

@dshipp17 said:

Despite body count, the worse of the three was clearly Hitler; we have to look to plans and goals; Hitler wanted to eliminate entire ethic groups and was stopped in his efforts, prematurely. Stalin and Mao were the worse dictators possible (and some of those Roman Emperors who persecuted Christians were even worse still, as they did have a similar, but inferior level of wickedness of a Hitler kind, as they wanted to cleans the world of all Christians, but not all other ethnic groups) , but Hitler was on a whole different level; he literally had an objective to wipe out the entire Jewish race and nonwhites from the face of the Earth and existence, and clearly had made great strides to that end, but was stopped short of achieving his goal, while the other two, as bad as they were, had nothing planned on that level.

This is some disinfo you'd expect to hear from the most ignorant 12 y/o antifa.

Get your facts straight, Hitler was not racist, he was anti-Semite. Hitler allied with the Japanese and considered them honorary aryans, he respected Muslims and Islam because of their shared views on Jews, The nazi swastika was related to Hindu religious symbols, Hitler wanted to free the British colonies, from the British, I.E. India.

"I am sure that the Japanese, the Chinese and the peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France, in spite of the fact that we are related by blood."

He said "I respect the lowliest Indian more than any arrogant Islander (referring to the British)", does that sound like a white supremacist to you?

Hitler had a burning hatred for Jews, the British and the Slavs but the later ones was probably because of the threat that was the Soviets and the Red Arm and the many past territorial conflicts between the Germans and Slavs near East Europe.

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#40 Posted by Noone1996 (10428 posts) - - Show Bio

@anakon4: you do know that 90% of Native Americans were killed by viruses and diseases right? And please don't even try to tell me Americans did it in purpose by giving them smallpox blankets and the like.

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#41 Posted by Hypnos0929 (6187 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalin by far those Gologs were hell

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#44 Posted by Xerolot (2955 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Adolf is winning. Those days people lack history knowledge. Hitler compared to Stalin and Mao was peaceful and kind person

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#46 Posted by Bardockdiaper (161 posts) - - Show Bio

Never heard of any of them /s

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@noone1996 said:

@anakon4: you do know that 90% of Native Americans were killed by viruses and diseases right? And please don't even try to tell me Americans did it in purpose by giving them smallpox blankets and the like.

Viruses and diseases your ancestors willingly spread. And no, many native people died of hunger, massacres, slave work, torturing etc.

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@xerolot said:

Lol Adolf is winning.
Those days people lack history knowledge. Hitler compared to Stalin and Mao was peaceful and kind person.

I sincerely advise you to stop taking drugs.

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#49 Posted by Noone1996 (10428 posts) - - Show Bio

@anakon4: Willingly? Lmao. Nobody had even a basic understanding of what germs were back then. Keep blaming everything on the evil white boogeyman. http://www.pbs.org/gunsgermssteel/variables/smallpox.html. You're wrong. 90% were killed from diseases. The propaganda about hunger, massacres, slavery, torturing (lmao, really?) PALED in comparison to what MOSTLY and OVERWHELMINGLY caused them to die out. Having such a warped and biased view about all white people must allow you to lead such a happy life.

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#50 Edited by lillion1 (149 posts) - - Show Bio

At least Hitler killed the Jews out of misguidedness. And there were only 6 million of them. Total number non combatants (including Jews) was 11 million. A huge number and in my oppinion he deserved something far worse than the way he died.

Stalin on the other hand killed far less Civilians than Hitler ever did but he never really had a reason for it except being a paranoid asshole. Latest numbers say about 2 to 3 million non combatants (2 long, from now on I call them civilians). Add another 5 million people that died during the famine of 1930-1933. Of those who starved, the 3.3 million or so inhabitants of Soviet Ukraine who died in 1932 and 1933 were victims of a deliberate killing policy related to nationality.

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In this data I do not count the number of Soviet people that died during the siege of Leningrad or the number of soldiers the Nazis slaughtered in camps. Or the Nazis that were probably slaughtered in Soviet Camps (could not find exact data on this so didnt bother with comparison). Instead focusing on the unnecessary deaths instead.

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I found this data by filling in google: how many did stalin kill compared to hitler --> clicking the first link. This is a good source and Snyders research is considered to be good by many historians. Afterwards I double checked this data using other sources. Most of these were not from the cold war cause back then most of the ''western'' data was propaganda making it worse and most ''eastern'' data was propaganda making it less worse. Basically western historians could not double check their data and guessed high.

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So Hitler was winning, until I looked up Mao and damn. (got a warning for the f-bomb so now its damn.)

Estimations go from 48 million to almost 80 million civilian casulties. Those are more than the number of Soviets died during the war +those that died because of Stalin cruelty. A general agreed estimation is 65 million people, mostly intellectuals. Basically, if you had an education in China back then, and you were not a communist you died. If you were a communist you probably still died.

Also his policies caused some huge catastrophes, like a huge famine. More on this can apparently be found in Frank Dikötter’s book, Mao’s Great Famine: The History of China’s Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-62.

It is possible Mao did not want to kill his countrymen with this famine, but if you continue with your policies after seeing they do not work you kinda have to be either broken, or a complete asshole with a disregard for human lives. And considering Mao killed far more civilians that Hitler and Stalin combined and considering his estimated kill count is MORE THAN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DEATHS OF BOTH SOLDIERS AND CIVILIANS OF WOLD WAR 2 FROM ALL COUNTRIES COMBINED, I think it is safe to assume that Mao was the biggest asshat in history