Who's cooler? Malcom X or MLK?
Pretty much a question of if you like Professor X or Magneto more.
Wasn't Malcolm X a bit extreme at times?
Yeah, but given his time, I can entirely blame him. Regardless, he later evolved pass the "all white men are devils" credo he followed, virtually weeks before he was killed.
@bruxae: civil rights activist? @yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: good comparison.
And Ill choose MLK.
Wasn't Malcolm X a bit extreme at times?
Yeah, but given his time, I can entirely blame him. Regardless, he later evolved pass the "all white men are devils" credo he followed, virtually weeks before he was killed.
But he was pro-segregation right?
@comicace3: That's actually rumored to be the inspiration of the two characters with mutants being commentary on African Americans and such.
@jonny_anonymous: He wasn't pro segregation.
Segregation was seperate and unequal. Us vs "they"
Malcolm simply advocated segregation within integration, as in due to blacks being treated unjust within white institutions they should simply create their own. Develop their own communities, start their own business, police their own communities. Instead of Little China, Little Africa.
Given his childhood, it's understandable that Malcolm acted like that.
Agreed. A lot of people who grew up in the Jim Crow era, have a lot of resentment towards whites, and it's understandable. For someone who grew up during the era and had to deal with racist managers, a racist school teacher who told them they had no hopes of being a lawyer, a racist judge who gave him 10 years in prison, racist social workers who tore his family a part and driven his mother insane, KKK members who murdered his father, being the grandson of a grandmother who was most likely raped by a slave master (Malcolm's mom was mixed) that can have a psychological effect on you.
Despite this if you see a lot of Malcolm's interviews he's completely respectable towards white people.
MLK I cooler, he accomplished so much without any sort of aggression or violence.
Hardly. The Voting Rights Act & Civil Rights Act were the only victories of the CRM.
MLK accomplished a lot only to realize that all of it was for nothing. He called the Civil Rights Movement a failure.
Wasn't Malcolm X a bit extreme at times?
Yeah, but given his time, I can entirely blame him. Regardless, he later evolved pass the "all white men are devils" credo he followed, virtually weeks before he was killed.
But he was pro-segregation right?
Yeah, he was a bit of a radical. But like "11" said, he moved passed that stuff, so they killed 'em...
Cooler? I'd go with Malcolm personally. I think the attitude of finding pride in being a Negro and willingness to aggressively point out the hypocrisy of American society during his time gave him a very badass aura.
@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: you know what.. i think you might be right. I remember seeing a youtube video about it.
@jnr6lil: his "I have a dream" speech alone is still echoing through time silently changing policies, and affecting people choices.
@cable_extreme: I don't see how it's changing policies or affecting people's chocies.
People listen to that speech around MLK day than it's forgotten
Again, MLK said that blacks were integrating into a burning house. He started to lean towards Malcolm preaching group economics, and a end of class oppression, as the CRM did little to change the social and economic conditions of blacks.
I give no sh*ts about Malcolm X.
But MLK Jr, he was helluva man.
X just has too much swagger for you :D
I actually liked Malcolm X a little bit more than Dr. Martin Luther King Jr... MLK had an advantage of following a religion that was heavily accepted by Americans as a whole... Christianity... and could speak from a platform of equality for everyone and being non violent as these principles are based on what Jesus would say himself. On the other hand, Malcolm X followed a religion that is to this day still shunned upon by many Americans aka Islam and on top of that a warped version of Islam... I mean Elijah Muhammad taught that White Men are Devils as well as many other warped dogmatic points... while he being himself a womanizer who slept around with multiple women and breaking his own creed with the faith he followed.
But as a whole Malcolm X was a spokesman for Black Men standing up for themselves... and not just taking that sh!t from White Folks just to go along... Martin Luther King Jr kind of taught that too... but through the veil of Non Violence w/ Sit Ins and Protests and sh!t.... singing songs and sh!t. I don't wanna sing no damn songs if someone is abusing me...
I give no sh*ts about Malcolm X.
But MLK Jr, he was helluva man.
Of course....
Let me guess "He was racist and hated white people"
MLK. Cause Malcolm would look down on me for dating a white girl.
MLK. Cause Malcolm would look down on me for dating a white girl.
this too.
@frogdog: Was that post pilgrimage Malcolm? Cause I believe he was for race segregation as well.
@frogdog: Was that post pilgrimage Malcolm? Cause I believe he was for race segregation as well.
Malcolm X getting towards the end of his life didn't view white people as being all bad, and he didn't support racial segregation either. He wanted racial separation for black people. To him, this meant that in the way that Jewish, white, Arab, etc. communities have economies, businesses, politics, that are controlled by their race, the same would hold true for black people.
More or less, black people controlling themselves and not relying on another race.
"This new type of black man, he doesn't want integration; he wants separation. Not segregation, separation. To him, segregation, as we're taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, means that which is forced upon inferiors by superiors. A segregated community is a Negro community. But the white community, though it's all white, is never called a segregated community. It's a separate community. In the white community, the white man controls the economy, his own economy, his own politics, his own everything. That's his community. But at the same time while the Negro lives in a separate community, it's a segregated community. Which means it's regulated from the outside by outsiders. The white man has all of the businesses in the Negro community. He runs the politics of the Negro community. He controls all the civic organizations in the Negro community. This is a segregated community.
We don't go for segregation. We go for separation. Separation is when you have your own. You control your own economy; you control your own politics; you control your own society; you control your own everything. You have yours and you control yours; we have ours and we control ours.
They don't call Chinatown in New York City or on the West Coast a segregated community, yet it's all Chinese. But the Chinese control it. Chinese voluntarily live there, they control it. They run it. They have their own schools. They control their own politics, control their own industry. And they don't feel like they're being made inferior because they have to live to themselves. They choose to live to themselves. They live there voluntarily. And they are doing for themselves in their community the same thing you do for yourself in your community. This makes them equal because they have what you have. But if they didn't have what you have, then they'd be controlled from your side; even though they would be on their side, they'd be controlled from your side by you.
So when we who follow the Honorable Elijah Muhammad say that we're for separation, it should be emphasized we're not for segregation; we're for separation. We want the same for ourselves as you have for yourselves. "
@frogdog: Was that post pilgrimage Malcolm? Cause I believe he was for race segregation as well.
He never supported segregation, just separation.
Media tries hard to paint Malcolm as some horrible black leader who suddenly became enlightened the last year of his life. Look past the whites are devils speech, he spoke a lot of truth.
Not talking about you specifically, just in general :)
Cooler? I'd go with Malcolm personally. I think the attitude of finding pride in being a Negro and willingness to aggressively point out the hypocrisy of American society during his time gave him a very badass aura.
@frogdog: Was that post pilgrimage Malcolm? Cause I believe he was for race segregation as well.
He never supported segregation, just separation.
Media tries hard to paint Malcolm as some horrible black leader who suddenly became enlightened the last year of his life. Look past the whites are devils speech, he spoke a lot of truth.
Not talking about you specifically, just in general :)
MLK by far. I've looked up to him since like the third grade. He accomplished so much by advocating peace and he was a great speaker. Malcolm X was too radical and by the time he got out of the Nation of Islam and rejected their teachings, it was too late. He got killed by his own kind. All thanks to Elijah Muhammad.
This, it's substance vs. style.
Malcolm X was cooler, MLK was more respectable.
@jonny_anonymous: Yes, Malcolm X was definitely the more militant of the two of them. He did desire peaceful coexistence, but he did at times have a by any means necessary way of thinking.
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