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#1 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm collecting alot of issues now from the classics, and in all honesty, i like the fact that you could pick up a comic book and understand what the hell is going on. it was like in every issue there was a problem, then it was solved by the end, and that was the end of it. Now i try, with ALL my strength, to buy current comics, and half the time, its so damn hard to grasp where you jumped in. It feels like i walked into the theatres of Matrix 3, and have no prior knowledge to the storyline, or plot. now, i'm forced to buy the Collections for the story Arcs if i want something current.

does anyone else feel this way? or am i out of my mind?

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#2 Posted by turoksonofstone (14751 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil:  
They used to weave a tapestry........... now they just try to out-event themselves..
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#3 Edited by gravitypress (2102 posts) - - Show Bio

The 60s through 80s were awesome. The new stuff is'nt doing it for me.

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#4 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

@gravitypress: I agree, but i reall disliked the X-men in the 80's. the X-men killed it for me. they got into all this weird kind of stuff, that just blew their Mutant problems WAY out of proportion. Example: Mojo, among other things.

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#5 Posted by ARMIV2 (10068 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, I feel like that sometimes as well...if there was some kind of event back in the day, it wasn't immediately preceded by another monumentally catastrophic event that would only later have all of its relevancy revoked, but rather it happened and everything followed out accordingly in the single issues that were related to the story. Now everything is an event that can only be related to another event and the only way to stop those chains of events is with another, bigger event.

Can't catch my freakin' breath sometimes when I'm reading up on a character or team because of all these events keep dragging everyone in to feed themselves.

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#6 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

@ARMIV2: Yea, ohk! so i'm really not alone here.

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#7 Posted by PowerHerc (86188 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@ARMIV2: Yea, ohk! so i'm really not alone here.

Nope, not alone at all. I agree with everything you've posted on this thread so far.

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#8 Posted by tron_bonne (2512 posts) - - Show Bio

1960's through mid 1995's for the win. 
 2000 through 2011 are just horrible!

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#9 Posted by The Stegman (38067 posts) - - Show Bio

80s and 90s yes, anything before then, no, the dialogue was just too cheesy 

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#10 Edited by tron_bonne (2512 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil:  
 
It's because from 1960 through late 1990 the writers were staying true to the Stan-Lee rule and the characters weren't twisted from their originality and stories where plot proof consistent with the next story and cross-over. Ever since 2000, Marvel started hiring hundreds of new writers and even some from DC, and with that, the story arcs of Marvel started to break away from the "Stan Lee Rule" and writers started twisting background stories, character development and stories. They added new characters without any originality and all of their stories constantly remain inconsistent from the last story or for the main line history altogether. I've also notice, the 2000 up comics have very few context bubbles and narration compared to the classic 60-90's
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#11 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

@tron_bonne: Yea, i noticed the thought bubbles too. but i liked the dialogue. gives you a peek at how people talked to each other back then.

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#12 Posted by VENOMCATEXE (36 posts) - - Show Bio

Not I, but not my era's. More for me I'm specific by the exact title and rather delicate about the whole process, so and era, or company, or title never factor in for me because I savor and disfavor the minute differences. But I understand the thought process, I can see the pattern within every generation of art, music and entertainment and how a persons viewpoints and preference's have a tendency to be aligned with what portion of it first amazed them.

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#13 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

@VENOMCATEXE: I'm picky about what i read too. i want to make sure that it was worth some time ya know?

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#14 Posted by CATPANEXE (9505 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil: Kind of. Not in the sense it was written wrong, I'm not 100% ever sold on that thinking. I believe everything is written as it's written, made as it's made, ect. We're a spoiled race. That said I don't deny my own selfishness either. I'm just picky. Otherwise like I said a whole era of comics? I can't take that that ride personally sorry, there's really too much of a difference between styles and flavors out there to even swallow the logic.

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#15 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

no idea.

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#16 Posted by Ortsab Ecnal (203 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil said:

@tron_bonne: Yea, i noticed the thought bubbles too. but i liked the dialogue. gives you a peek at how people talked to each other back then.

you mean like this? 
 
  
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#17 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ortsab Ecnal: to tell you the truth, i liked the dialogue given back then. i think it gave a little more insight to the character.... but sometiimes it was something Obvious... like no duh obvious

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#18 Posted by Ortsab Ecnal (203 posts) - - Show Bio
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@Ortsab Ecnal: to tell you the truth, i liked the dialogue given back then. i think it gave a little more insight to the character.... but sometiimes it was something Obvious... like no duh obvious

 
  
this 
 
  
 
 
 
versus this 
 
 
 

  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
and this 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
and then this 
 
 
 
 
versus this 
 
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#19 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ortsab Ecnal: Lol funny how all of them have Magneto, or His children.

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#20 Posted by progenitorigin (7564 posts) - - Show Bio

80's and 90's, for me.

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#21 Posted by RainEffect (3376 posts) - - Show Bio

60s and 70s artwork hurts my eyes. 
 
Yeah, I'm a ponce who needs amazingly detailed inks and colours.

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#22 Posted by turoksonofstone (14751 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ortsab Ecnal said:
@nickthedevil said:

@tron_bonne: Yea, i noticed the thought bubbles too. but i liked the dialogue. gives you a peek at how people talked to each other back then.

you mean like this? 
 
  
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lol.
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#23 Posted by PrinceIMC (5506 posts) - - Show Bio

Going back and getting the essential collectionsfor stuff like the x-men, avengers and such I gotta say I think the 70's had the best stories.

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#24 Posted by tron_bonne (2512 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil:  
 
 
60-90's is for people who like to visualize imagination by reading. 
2000-011 is for people who like visualize imagination by seeing.
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#25 Posted by Roddy010 (6304 posts) - - Show Bio

Meh I like today's art better much more vivid and detailed, but I will admit I did enjoy howw the writing was done back then..It was more descriptive which gave a lot of insight of what was going on internally as well as externally with the characters which made the reader connect and understand the character more...

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#26 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceIMC: Yea, I'm doing the same. collecting the Masterwork series though. i cant read Black and white. But the stories are what i loved about em.

@Roddy010: agreed. I Love Jack Kirby's art. Lol. Its simple, but still.

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#27 Posted by DoomDoomDoom (4401 posts) - - Show Bio

The 70's and 80's are my favorite decades for comics.

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#28 Posted by DarkShadows (752 posts) - - Show Bio

The 60/70/80's comics were the best and I have a few, though, the art today is pretty good. When I am looking through my comic, I'm just examining the pictures.

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#29 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

60/70/80 used classic traditional comic art. During some time in the 2000s comics adapted their art from anime. So comics these days are a comic/manga hybrid. 

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#30 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh and Jim Lee's art is the best I've seen in comics, but his style adapted from... yup you guessed it... Anime.

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#31 Posted by nickthedevil (14908 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea, i have to agree with various people here, i really like the art work of today's comics, but i was more on the subject of plot lines and such. But yea, i'm a sucker for the cover art work.

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#32 Posted by TheSecondOpinion (625 posts) - - Show Bio

@turoksonofstone said:

@Ortsab Ecnal said:
@nickthedevil said:

@tron_bonne: Yea, i noticed the thought bubbles too. but i liked the dialogue. gives you a peek at how people talked to each other back then.

you mean like this?


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lol.

So true.

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#33 Posted by PowerHerc (86188 posts) - - Show Bio

@DoomDoomDoom said:

The 70's and 80's are my favorite decades for comics.

This, though I like the 60's a lot, too.

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#34 Posted by Chronus (1118 posts) - - Show Bio

Those decades are my second(70s) and third(60s) favorite. I'm enjoying modern comics more than the comics released in the past.