Which Is Worse (Far Left Or Alt Right)

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#1 Posted by graham_savion (422 posts) - - Show Bio

And Please Provide Reasons

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#2 Posted by graham_savion (422 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP!!!

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#3 Edited by jagernutt (17618 posts) - - Show Bio

Far left has more feat's of insanity. Technically Hitler was far left. Along with Joseph Stalin and Pole Pot.

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#4 Edited by Wilkiiins17 (706 posts) - - Show Bio

Far left

Hitler

Abortion up to the 8th month and even after if it has some sort of disability

Think there's more then two genders

Think a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man

this which is just child abuse

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#5 Posted by Lan_Fan (16926 posts) - - Show Bio

Far left, easy.

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#6 Posted by StaticSpeedster (2817 posts) - - Show Bio

Both. I dislike it when one is too far off a political party especially when violence is encouraged.

Atm the far left got the upper hand because of the media and i hate seeing the normalization of young kids getting into sex reassignment surgeries, kids doing drag, cuckholdry/infidelity, changing the definition of heavy terms such as "sexist" and "racist" and lastly how offenders get special treatment even though they have discriminated others just because they belong to a "progressive" liberal group (lgbt, radfem, blm, black israelites etc).

#centristgang

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#7 Edited by Captain_Narlowe (228 posts) - - Show Bio

Alt Right, that shouldn't even be a question right now. Donald Trump was able to become the worst president of all time, and he is still too liberal for the Alt Right. And then there's the whole rise of the modern Nazis worldwide.

And that people call Adolf Hitler far left is the most stupid brainfart i have ever read, the Alt Right even completely copy his and the NSDAP's strategies and themes with conspiracy theories, sexism, racism, going up against the left and hate.

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#8 Posted by kgb725 (19686 posts) - - Show Bio

Abortion and transgender beliefs are not the same as being racist xenophobic and violent.

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#9 Edited by mimisalome (5497 posts) - - Show Bio

Currently, Far-Left is more radical and violent in my opinion.

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Alt-rights are being labeled as "racists" and "xenophobic" by mainstream media

but the only pronounce argument they have against them is their anti-immigration position which is primarily a reaction to uncontrolled illegal immigration and influx of refugees from war torn islamic countries that refuses to assimilate.

I don't think there is an Alt-right group right now that is actively calling for genocide of jews, blacks and other non-white people.

For the most part they just want to uphold and preserve "white culture" (which is essentially European-based Culture).

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On the other hand Far-left is represented by groups like Antifa, who had many times declared and committed act violence as a justified means to an end.

Far-left are also very racist against white people. Very sexists against males, and are very antagonizing against Christians.

They also want to take down and change the current social and economic status quo based on Liberty and Free Enterprise and replace it with radical communism and a welfare Nanny-state.

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The thing is if you leave the Alt-right alone in their own self-impose xenophobia, they will all be happy about it and they will most likely leave you alone on your own way of life.

The Far-left, on the other hand, will not settle for anything less than total socio-economic domination where they police your thoughts for wrong think. (Just like what the regressive left and SJWs are doing right now).

So if alt right wins - at most you will have is cultural segragation (i dont think race would be an issue for them anymore)

If Far-Left wins - you would have a 1984 -esque Destopic society

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#10 Edited by i_like_swords (26309 posts) - - Show Bio

Can you be more specific about who you're comparing? "Far-left" and "alt-right" really doesn't mean anything at this point.

If you're asking me who I think is worse between say, Antifa and Richard Spencer, I'll go ahead and say the ones putting gay asian journalists in hospital during pride month are worse. Spencer has actually been the recipient of violence but I'm yet to see him call for it... and he coined the term "alt right".

In terms of ideology, alt right is more palatable than communism. No contest.

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#11 Posted by jagernutt (17618 posts) - - Show Bio

Currently, Far-Left is more radical and violent in my opinion.

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Alt-rights are being labeled as "racists" and "xenophobic" by mainstream media

but the only pronounce argument they have against them is their anti-immigration position which is primarily a reaction to uncontrolled illegal immigration and influx of refugees from war torn islamic countries that refuses to assimilate.

I don't think there is an Alt-right group right now that is actively calling for genocide of jews, blacks and other non-white people.

For the most part they just want to uphold and preserve "white culture" (which is essentially European-based Culture).

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On the other hand Far-left is represented by groups like Antifa, who had many times declared and committed act violence as a justified means to an end.

Far-left are also very racist against white people. Very sexists against males, and are very antagonizing against Christians.

They also want to take down and change the current social and economic status quo based on Liberty and Free Enterprise and replace it with radical communism and a welfare Nanny-state.

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The thing is if you leave the Alt-right alone in their own self-impose xenophobia, they will all be happy about it and they will most likely leave you alone on your own way of life.

The Far-left, on the other hand, will not settle for anything less than total socio-economic domination where they police your thoughts for wrong think. (Just like what the regressive left and SJWs are doing right now).

So if alt right wins - at most you will have is cultural segragation (i dont think race would be an issue for them anymore)

If Far-Left wins - you would have a 1984 -esque Destopic society

It's like you read my mind.

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#12 Posted by WollfMyth209 (17311 posts) - - Show Bio

In current times or overall?

Since if you wanna use "all of history" as an example, people like Stalin were technically "Far Left". But currently, I'm legitimately more afraid of the Alt Right than I am of the Far-Left.

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#13 Posted by KingOfWakanda (2913 posts) - - Show Bio

The side with the incels and the persecution complex.

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#15 Edited by Adamantine (655 posts) - - Show Bio

Both are bad, I find myself to me pretty Liberal but, even I find most liberals now a days to be idiotic.

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#16 Posted by mrmonster (16348 posts) - - Show Bio

The far left may be bad, but they do not even compare to the violence and hatred of the far right. When the far left commit a massacre at a church like in Charleston or kills an entire camp full of children like in Norway, let me know.

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#18 Posted by Adamantine (655 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster: This is what I meant by hypocritical. The Left has killed millions. Look at Mao or Stalin both far left. And you act like today's Left wing nuts aren't violent.

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#19 Edited by mrmonster (16348 posts) - - Show Bio

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@mrmonster: This is what I meant by hypocritical. The Left has killed millions. Look at Mao or Stalin both far left. And you act like today's Left wing nuts aren't violent.

And far right dictators like Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Hideki Tojo, and others have also killed millions, so don't pretend like only one side has produced radical dictators.

Also, what have today's left wing nuts done that is even comparable to attacks like the Christchurch massacre or the 2011 Norway attacks. And those are just the big ones, I could go on and on with smaller acts of far right terrorism like the Colorado Springs abortion clinic shooting, or the Charlottesville car attack, Pizzagate, or last year's attempted mail bombs.

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#20 Posted by Adamantine (655 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster:

I'm not the one pretending one is worse than the other that was you.

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#21 Posted by mimisalome (5497 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamantine said:

@mrmonster: This is what I meant by hypocritical. The Left has killed millions. Look at Mao or Stalin both far left. And you act like today's Left wing nuts aren't violent.

And far right dictators like Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Hideki Tojo, and others have also killed millions, so don't pretend like only one side has produced radical dictators.

Also, what have today's left wing nuts done that is even comparable to attacks like the Christchurch massacre or the 2011 Norway attacks. And those are just the big ones, I could go on and on with smaller acts of far right terrorism like the Colorado Springs abortion clinic shooting, or the Charlottesville car attack, or last year's attempted mail bombs.

Left wingers in my country are still running a bloody insurgency, that claimed tens of thousands of live.

They regularly extort local businesses and burn and destroyed properties.

The worse thing is that they recruit impressionable yound people and students that have future ahead of them.

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#22 Posted by mrmonster (16348 posts) - - Show Bio

@mimisalome: What is your country, if you don't mind me asking?

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#23 Edited by cattlebattle (17820 posts) - - Show Bio

I always love these threads because every single time all the people that say the right is worse do nothing but use buzzwords and insults "muh racists!!" "Xenephobia!!" "Muh incels!!" While people that say that the left is worse actually give cogent arguments to why they believe that. Like literally every time.

Anyways, lets not pretend liberals, especially far leftists, specifically white leftists, aren't closet racists that cover it up with ardent virtue signaling (thus how the SJW was born) Like how they use "coded language" when talking to black people, because they probably they think they're dumb or something

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article222424675.html

Or the sterotype of rich white lefties who spend every bit of their wealth to live as far away from their coveted "diversity" as they possibly can. There is tons of examples of these people.

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The far left may be bad, but they do not even compare to the violence and hatred of the far right. When the far left commit a massacre at a church like in Charleston or kills an entire camp full of children like in Norway, let me know.

Seriously??

Kori Muhammed, who was a black nationalist, shot up a church full of white people like 2 years ago and it was racially and politically motivated, whether or not you consider black nationalism "far left" is up to you, but, the FBI usually does.

Throughout the 70s, 80s and 90s Far left terrorism and groups like the Weather Underground, the RNA, United Freedom Front, and Black and Hispanic nationalist groups, all motivated by Communism, Marxist and far left ideology accounted for roughly like 3/4 of terrorism in the US and killed something like over 13,000 people. Not to mention Communist regimes all over the world and millions in death toll that they have.

They don't usually write about this stuff in comic books so I guess people on here wouldn't know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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#24 Posted by mimisalome (5497 posts) - - Show Bio

@mimisalome: What is your country, if you don't mind me asking?

I mind so I won't tell you :P

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#25 Posted by PurplePerson (924 posts) - - Show Bio

The question is too vague.

I believe in leftist politics but depending on who you consider “the far left” then they are possibly worse than the “alt right” which is a relatively new movement and hasn’t had the chance to contaminate the world as much as 100 years of crazy Communist despots.

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#26 Posted by mrmonster (16348 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle:

"Kori Muhammed, who was a black nationalist..."

Okay, so you've got one good example. I had several examples, all of which were much worse attacks than his, but okay, glad you have one.

"Throughout the 70s, 80s and 90s..."

So, decades ago, decades ago, and decades ago. Come back when you have examples that aren't from 20-50 years ago.

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#27 Posted by Wilkiiins17 (706 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster: what makes you think Hitler was far right

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#28 Posted by Super_Saiyan_Devil (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure most domestic terror attacks are done by Far Right dipshits, so... Yeah.

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#29 Posted by KillBilly (2673 posts) - - Show Bio

The far right are more dangerous on an individual level while the far left are more dangerous on a national level.

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#30 Posted by Super_Saiyan_Devil (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, lol at Hitler being far left.

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#31 Posted by deactivated-5d2b83d5a0d79 (12104 posts) - - Show Bio

All y'all are terrible. Terrible wastes of flesh.

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#32 Edited by Paytience (5196 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster: Hitler and Mussolini were leftists bright one. You failed completely. Not only was he a leftist but the nazi dpctrine was drawn almost entirely from Leftists in america...i.e. Jacksonian Democrats, Southern Democrats, and dixiecrats.

This is more left hypocrisy...trying to change the political parlance to try and fit Hitler, the candidate of the National SOCIALIST Workers Party as right wing.

Every single thing he did, from death camps to racial superiority were all leftist doctrines, many of which were founded directly in America by the democratic party. The Nazis were inspired by the trail of tears perpetuated by democrats; slavery which was all Democrat; and Segrgation-every piece of jim crow legislation was voted on by a dem congress and signed by dem governor without exception.

Hitler and his party was leftist\collectivist to their core. Stop trying to blame the right wing for the evils of the left.

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#33 Posted by Super_Saiyan_Devil (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

ALSO also, are we talking far left as in authoritarian communists? Or like Bernie Sanders "far left," aka international centrism?

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#34 Edited by mrmonster (16348 posts) - - Show Bio

@wilkiiins17: Fierce nationalism, white supremacy, militarism...need I say more?

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#35 Posted by Adamantine (655 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster: Hitler stright up attacked a lot of Right Wing politics when he ran for office.

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#36 Posted by mrmonster (16348 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster: Hitler was a leftist bright one. You failed completely. Not only was he a leftist but the nazi dpctrine was drawn almost entirely from Leftists in america...i.e. Jacksonian Democrats, Southern Democrats, and dixiecrats.

This is more left hypocrisy...trying to change the political parlance to try and fit Hitler, the candidate of the National SOCIALIST Workers Party as right wing.

Every single thing he did, from death camps to racial superiority were all leftist doctrines, many of which were founded directly in America by the democratic party. The Nazis were inspired by the trail of tears perpetuated by democrats; slavery which was all Democrat; and Segrgation-every piece of jim crow legislation was voted on by a dem congress and signed by dem governor without exception.

Hitler and his party was leftist\collectivist to their core. Stop trying to blame the right wing for the evils of the left.

There is so, so much wrong with this.

Hitler was, by any means, far right. Nationalism, white supremacy, militarism...need I say more?

And also, at first glance, national socialism may sound like just socialism, but really that's just another word for nationalism. Look past names and find out what things actually mean.

And please, please tell me you're not unaware that Democrats at that time had a right-wing ideology. At the bare minimum, tell me you're not that uneducated.

But by all means, keep spewing BS and false narratives if you wish. All you're doing is giving me the opportunity to prove my point even more.

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#37 Posted by mrmonster (16348 posts) - - Show Bio

If you actually believe Hitler was a leftist, please just log off and don't log back on until you take a history class.

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#38 Posted by Super_Saiyan_Devil (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

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@mrmonster: Hitler was a leftist bright one. You failed completely. Not only was he a leftist but the nazi dpctrine was drawn almost entirely from Leftists in america...i.e. Jacksonian Democrats, Southern Democrats, and dixiecrats.

This is more left hypocrisy...trying to change the political parlance to try and fit Hitler, the candidate of the National SOCIALIST Workers Party as right wing.

Every single thing he did, from death camps to racial superiority were all leftist doctrines, many of which were founded directly in America by the democratic party. The Nazis were inspired by the trail of tears perpetuated by democrats; slavery which was all Democrat; and Segrgation-every piece of jim crow legislation was voted on by a dem congress and signed by dem governor without exception.

Hitler and his party was leftist\collectivist to their core. Stop trying to blame the right wing for the evils of the left.

There is so, so much wrong with this.

Hitler was, by any means, far right. Nationalism, white supremacy, militarism...need I say more?

And also, at first glance, national socialism may sound like just socialism, but really that's just another word for nationalism. Look past names and find out what things actually mean.

And please, please tell me you're not unaware that Democrats at that time had a right-wing ideology. At the bare minimum, tell me you're not that uneducated.

But by all means, keep spewing BS and false narratives if you wish. All you're doing is giving me the opportunity to prove my point even more.

Finally: Someone in this thread with a functioning brain.

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#39 Posted by Adamantine (655 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster: He was neither left or right. He attacked both left and right politics.

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#40 Posted by graham_savion (422 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow this got explosive really fast

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#41 Edited by Alavanka (2675 posts) - - Show Bio

Both are BS at the fundamental level, not just the extremes. I lean conservative because the idiots on that side are more amusing than annoying.

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#42 Posted by Super_Saiyan_Devil (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow this got explosive really fast

Yeah political threads tend to do that.

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#43 Edited by ourmanuel (12629 posts) - - Show Bio

Whichever side @anthp2000 is on 😃

OT: Far right is worse

Far left is cringier tho

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@mrmonster said:

If you actually believe Hitler was a leftist, please just log off and don't log back on until you take a history class.

The further right you go the smaller the state gets. At the end you have anarchy.

The further left you go the more power the state has. At the end you have communism.

Hitler was a socialist who believed in big government. Do the math here.

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#45 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5761 posts) - - Show Bio

The far left are actually insane.

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#46 Posted by Super_Saiyan_Devil (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster said:

If you actually believe Hitler was a leftist, please just log off and don't log back on until you take a history class.

The further right you go the smaller the state gets. At the end you have anarchy.

The further left you go the more power the state has. At the end you have communism.

Hitler was a socialist who believed in big government. Do the math here.

That's not how it works. Authoritarian governments can appear on both sides of the spectrum, and anarchy can as well.

Hitler was a fascist who's rise was mostly built up by a hatred of communism. Please educate yourself.

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#47 Posted by infantfinite128 (6165 posts) - - Show Bio

The Far Left is worse.

Further to the right, you get anarchy.

Further to the left, you get communism.

Far left

Hitler

Abortion up to the 8th month and even after if it has some sort of disability

Think there's more then two genders

Think a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man

this which is just child abuse

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Poor Desmond.

It's sick.

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#48 Posted by Super_Saiyan_Devil (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

The Far Left is worse.

Further to the right, you get anarchy.

Further to the left, you get communism.

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Far left

Hitler

Abortion up to the 8th month and even after if it has some sort of disability

Think there's more then two genders

Think a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man

this which is just child abuse

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Poor Desmond.

It's sick.

That's not how it works.

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#49 Posted by MainJP (7089 posts) - - Show Bio

Far left

Hitler

Abortion up to the 8th month and even after if it has some sort of disability

Think there's more then two genders

Think a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man

this which is just child abuse

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Look at that like to dislike ratio.

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