Too much evil in this world....

http://www.680news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n1218135A

I just saw this a few minutes ago on the news......a elderly man, delivering christmas cards to his neighbours, was beaten with a edged weapon and left to die in a pool of his own blood, with his stack of Christmas cards by his side.

Seriously, what kind of sick motherf^^ker would do this? Are you dense in the head? Got some unresolved childhood trauma that your too wussy to deal with, have to take it out on an old man delivering motherf^^king CHRISTMAS CARDS to his neighbours? I hope whoever did this rots in a prison cell for the rest of his life and dies slowly.

it's a dark world but it's the only one we have Sparda

or we change it or we must accept it like it is

Nighthunter says:

"it's a dark world but it's the only one we have Spardaor we change it or we must accept it like it is"

Oh, I'm not denying it's a dark world.....just thinking that maybe it's time to get rid of the people who make it dark. I'm gonna eat dinner, wash this out of my head.

Apparition says:

"Sparda says:

"http://www.680news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n1218135A I just saw this a few minutes ago on the news......a elderly man, delivering christmas cards to his neighbours, was *beaten* with a edged weapon and left to die in a pool of his own blood, with his stack of Christmas cards by his side. Seriously, what kind of sick motherf^^ker would do this? Are you dense in the head? Got some unresolved childhood trauma that your too wussy to deal with, have to take it out on an old man delivering motherf^^king ***CHRISTMAS CARDS*** to his neighbours? I hope whoever did this rots in a prison cell for the rest of his life and dies slowly."

so do i. i wish i hadnt heard any of that."

DITTO!

Sparda says:

"http://www.680news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n1218135A I just saw this a few minutes ago on the news......a elderly man, delivering christmas cards to his neighbours, was *beaten* with a edged weapon and left to die in a pool of his own blood, with his stack of Christmas cards by his side. Seriously, what kind of sick motherf^^ker would do this? Are you dense in the head? Got some unresolved childhood trauma that your too wussy to deal with, have to take it out on an old man delivering motherf^^king ***CHRISTMAS CARDS*** to his neighbours? I hope whoever did this rots in a prison cell for the rest of his life and dies slowly."

so do i. i wish i hadnt heard any of that.

That is very disturbing........an elderly man! Wow..........an apocolypse is near

Sparda says:

"Nighthunter says:

"it's a dark world but it's the only one we have Spardaor we change it or we must accept it like it is"

Oh, I'm not denying it's a dark world.....just thinking that maybe it's time to get rid of the people who make it dark. I'm gonna eat dinner, wash this out of my head."

there's now way to get rid of it

while there's good, there'll be evil, there's really no solution for the problem

thats mess up man. the guy was just hadin out christmas cards

Senseless

Nighthunter says:

"Sparda says:

"Nighthunter says:

"it's a dark world but it's the only one we have Spardaor we change it or we must accept it like it is"

Oh, I'm not denying it's a dark world.....just thinking that maybe it's time to get rid of the people who make it dark. I'm gonna eat dinner, wash this out of my head."

there's now way to get rid of it

while there's good, there'll be evil, there's really no solution for the problem"

Yeah, that's the sad truth.....

I send out my deepest condolences to the man's friends and family (even though they won't see this).

I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!

Its this kind of stuff I hear that makes me fear the real world. Once I leave high school I'm going to scared.

Maybe the guy he was giving cards to wasn't a fan of Christmas.

you know I agree with the above statment of its a dark world but its the only one we have and we can accept that or attempt to change it

that is f^^^^cked up though sounds like a bad horror move scene

the question is how does one remove violence from the world?

prisons do not work they have only served to better criminals in their profession

i think the way to remove violence would be to remove class systems and to remove the feeling that one must have money and possesions to be of any worth in society

No, prison needs to be a proper deterent. Something you really fear. To balance that, people who are honest and decent should see more of a reward in society. Classic carrot and stick approach. Neither America (stick) or Britain (carrot) have their approach right.

Sparda says:

"http://www.680news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n1218135AI just saw this a few minutes ago on the news......a elderly man, delivering christmas cards to his neighbours, was *beaten* with a edged weapon and left to die in a pool of his own blood, with his stack of Christmas cards by his side.Seriously, what kind of sick motherf^^ker would do this? Are you dense in the head? Got some unresolved childhood trauma that your too wussy to deal with, have to take it out on an old man delivering motherf^^king ***CHRISTMAS CARDS*** to his neighbours? I hope whoever did this rots in a prison cell for the rest of his life and dies slowly."

im just gonna say Vendetta

Cosmic Sentinel says:

"No, prison needs to be a proper deterent. Something you really fear. To balance that, people who are honest and decent should see more of a reward in society. Classic carrot and stick approach. Neither America (stick) or Britain (carrot) have their approach right."

agreed however, what do you feel the approach should be we have already tried longer sentences what if we shortened the amount of free time prisoners recieved? In that they must enroll in a program of some kind as part of their sentence in short release them with skills and education trouble is many of them leave prison still skilled only in crime.

damn straight! oooooooops sorry darn straight!

Black Smile says:

"Cosmic Sentinel says:

"No, prison needs to be a proper deterent. Something you really fear. To balance that, people who are honest and decent should see more of a reward in society. Classic carrot and stick approach. Neither America (stick) or Britain (carrot) have their approach right."

agreed however, what do you feel the approach should be we have already tried longer sentences what if we shortened the amount of free time prisoners recieved? In that they must enroll in a program of some kind as part of their sentence in short release them with skills and education trouble is many of them leave prison still skilled only in crime.

"

us germans like to approach ppl like that guy who killed the poor old man with these:

Prison should be tough in itself. Break up rocks, clean up crap, random searches. They should end every day inside tired and regretting ever doing the crime. Long sentences also have one important benefit: you can't mug anyone while you're in porridge.

i feel sorry for the dude.

They killed a poor old man for just handing out Christmas cards? That guy who killed that poor old man, should be sent on a one way trip to Siberia and left to freeze over and die. That's just wrong.
Post Edited:2007-12-19 09:43:02

Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!"

Nods

@Dread: I like the sounds of that.

@CS: I agree with you-prison should be the worst place on Earth. All day, 24 hours backbreaking labour, then you get 5 hours of sleep, then another 24. It should be just brutal.

I think death is a just punishment for crimes like these, I doubt they could ever advance the human race in any way.

Sparda says:

"Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!"

Nods

@Dread: I like the sounds of that.

@CS: I agree with you-prison should be the worst place on Earth. All day, 24 hours backbreaking labour, then you get 5 hours of sleep, then another 24. It should be just brutal."

It should be like russia's prisons. You are sent to siberia, with no heater. That is brutal.

Sparda says:

"Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!"

Nods

@Dread: I like the sounds of that.

@CS: I agree with you-prison should be the worst place on Earth. All day, 24 hours backbreaking labour, then you get 5 hours of sleep, then another 24. It should be just brutal."

I couldn't disagree more.

Dreadnaught says:

"Sparda says:

"Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!"

Nods

@Dread: I like the sounds of that.

@CS: I agree with you-prison should be the worst place on Earth. All day, 24 hours backbreaking labour, then you get 5 hours of sleep, then another 24. It should be just brutal."

It should be like russia's prisons. You are sent to siberia, with no heater. That is brutal. "

And yet there's still crime in Russia.

Gambler says:

"Dreadnaught says:

"Sparda says:

"Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!"

Nods

@Dread: I like the sounds of that.

@CS: I agree with you-prison should be the worst place on Earth. All day, 24 hours backbreaking labour, then you get 5 hours of sleep, then another 24. It should be just brutal."

It should be like russia's prisons. You are sent to siberia, with no heater. That is brutal. "

And yet there's still crime in Russia. "

That's because Putin is well too put it in a word or more specifically a name is "Rasputin".

My point is, longer sentences, harsher punishments, they don't work. People who commit those types of crimes don't stop to think, "Well, I was gonna kill em but prison is to harsh so I wont."

People want more laws, more laws for this, more laws for that. Laws only affect the people willing to follow them.

I agree. The evil things in this world: violence, racism, rape, etc... have always been here and will always be here. Deterence isn't going to work but you can have some limited success in rehabilitation and even if it wont deter or rehab some people, you definitely have to make people suffer for what they've done.

But more laws isn't going to accomplish much of anything.

Gambler says:

"My point is, longer sentences, harsher punishments, they don't work. People who commit those types of crimes don't stop to think, "Well, I was gonna kill em but prison is to harsh so I wont." People want more laws, more laws for this, more laws for that. Laws only affect the people willing to follow them."

Being in prison stops you doing it again (because you're in prison).

I'm against the death penalty because you can never undo it and no system is perfect.

Sparda says:

"Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!"

Nods

@Dread: I like the sounds of that.

@CS: I agree with you-prison should be the worst place on Earth. All day, 24 hours backbreaking labour, then you get 5 hours of sleep, then another 24. It should be just brutal."

What you are forgetting is, what about the people who committed crimes just serious enough to go to prison? They would get the same sentence as the murderers and rapists.

not really dude some muderers and rapist either get life sentence or 20 years to life

and regular criminals can get as low as 5-10 years

Eh, my view on the subject of laws and prisons keeps on flip-flopping. Some days I support the death sentence and harsher laws and other days I seem to like second chances.

Anyways, you guys are right-making more laws and whatnot won't solve anything. One day though......someone's going to do something that'll rectify some of this.

I've heard some really sad stories about sh!t like this... One happened a little while ago in my hometown. A blind guy was at the bar with some friends, out on the dance floor and got a little mixed up when he was heading back to his table and walked in behind the bar. A bouncer started yelling at him, he apologized, got out and tried to explain that he's blind and couldn't see where he was walking. The bouncers dragged him to a back room and beat the sh!t out of him and threw him into the street. The police won't do anything about it because he can't positively id these guys by appearance and they were paid off to say that vocal id isn't an official way to id someone. It's a scary world, so you just gotta be cautious.
Post Edited:2007-12-19 18:24:02

Crimson Orchid says:

"I've heard some really sad stories about sh!t like this... One happened a little while ago in my hometown. A blind guy was at the bar with some friends, out on the dance floor and got a little mixed up when he was heading back to his table and walked in behind the bar. A bouncer started yelling at him, he apologized, got out and tried to explain that he's blind and couldn't see where he was walking. The bouncers dragged him to a back room and beat the sh!t out of him and threw him into the street. The police won't do anything about it because he can't positively id these guys by appearance and they were paid off to say that vocal id isn't an official way to id someone. It's a scary world, so you just gotta be cautious.
Post Edited:2007-12-19 18:24:02"

That's sad....

Sparda says:

"Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!"

*Nods* @Dread: I like the sounds of that. @CS: I agree with you-prison should be the worst place on Earth. All day, 24 hours backbreaking labour, then you get 5 hours of sleep, then another 24. It should be just brutal."

What was that prison that was one of the most feared places ever and it was on a little island. It held some of the most vicious criminals in history. I heard a story that one night two people got out and they took a boat and just left. They were never found. I think that prison should come back. It was in the x-man movie.

Copy says:

"Sparda says:

"Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"I-I-Is the Man d-d-dead??!!?!"

*Nods* @Dread: I like the sounds of that. @CS: I agree with you-prison should be the worst place on Earth. All day, 24 hours backbreaking labour, then you get 5 hours of sleep, then another 24. It should be just brutal."

What was that prison that was one of the most feared places ever and it was on a little island. It held some of the most vicious criminals in history. I heard a story that one night two people got out and they took a boat and just left. They were never found. I think that prison should come back. It was in the x-man movie."

Alcatraz.

Sparda says:

"Crimson Orchid says:

"I've heard some really sad stories about sh!t like this... One happened a little while ago in my hometown. A blind guy was at the bar with some friends, out on the dance floor and got a little mixed up when he was heading back to his table and walked in behind the bar. A bouncer started yelling at him, he apologized, got out and tried to explain that he's blind and couldn't see where he was walking. The bouncers dragged him to a back room and beat the sh!t out of him and threw him into the street. The police won't do anything about it because he can't positively id these guys by appearance and they were paid off to say that vocal id isn't an official way to id someone. It's a scary world, so you just gotta be cautious.
Post Edited:2007-12-19 18:24:02"

That's sad...."

It is.

PRISON???? PRISON???? that's THE problem, we send these demented mutants to jail, all bought and paid for on OUR $$$$ for what? to keep this piece of shite alive???

Firing squad, public hangings, ect...trust me, the crime rate will plummet! A bullet, is about all i'm personally willing to waste on human dreck.

youre not killing everyone are you? anyone who is convicted of committing murder or rape?

Yup, every, last, one of them....

murdering rapists eliminated-priceless

Mr. Ubiquitous says:

"PRISON???? PRISON???? that's THE problem, we send these demented mutants to jail, all bought and paid for on OUR $$$$ for what? to keep this piece of shite alive???Firing squad, public hangings, ect...trust me, the crime rate will plummet! A bullet, is about all i'm personally willing to waste on human dreck."

I doubt it, in fact I believe they'd become increasingly more dangerous and the crime rate would escalate. As criminals would go to more desperate measures to keep from getting caught. If death was an effective deterrent to crime, states with the death penalty would have none.

Just curious-how many of the states do have the death penalty? The majority, or the minority? I'm not well versed in American law....

Sparda says:

"Just curious-how many of the states do have the death penalty? The majority, or the minority? I'm not well versed in American law...."

Majority of the American states permit execution. I think its around 34.

Sparda says:

"Gambler says:

"Sparda says:

"Just curious-how many of the states do have the death penalty? The majority, or the minority? I'm not well versed in American law...."

Majority of the American states permit execution. I think its around 34."

Hot dang."

i heard canada doesn't have the death penalty is that true?

Gambler says:

"Sparda says:

"Just curious-how many of the states do have the death penalty? The majority, or the minority? I'm not well versed in American law...."

Majority of the American states permit execution. I think its around 34."

Hot dang.

Sparda says:

"fear monger says:

"Sparda says:

"Gambler says:

"Sparda says:

"Just curious-how many of the states do have the death penalty? The majority, or the minority? I'm not well versed in American law...."

Majority of the American states permit execution. I think its around 34."

Hot dang."

i heard canada doesn't have the death penalty is that true?"

Yeah....no deaths by execution up here. Sometimes, though, I think there should be...."

so if someone kills 10 people what do you guys do?

fear monger says:

"Sparda says:

"Gambler says:

"Sparda says:

"Just curious-how many of the states do have the death penalty? The majority, or the minority? I'm not well versed in American law...."

Majority of the American states permit execution. I think its around 34."

Hot dang."

i heard canada doesn't have the death penalty is that true?"

Yeah....no deaths by execution up here. Sometimes, though, I think there should be....

fear monger says:

"Sparda says:

"fear monger says:

"Sparda says:

"Gambler says:

"Sparda says:

"Just curious-how many of the states do have the death penalty? The majority, or the minority? I'm not well versed in American law...."

Majority of the American states permit execution. I think its around 34."

Hot dang."

i heard canada doesn't have the death penalty is that true?"

Yeah....no deaths by execution up here. Sometimes, though, I think there should be...."

so if someone kills 10 people what do you guys do?"

We had something like that recently....the Robert Pickton trial....

dude murdered dozens of women (prostitutes), and after a huge investigation of his pig farm, they found him guilty of second degree murder-25 years without parole, I think was the final verdict.