Society cross examination: What do you think about society's belief that men are monsters and women are victims?

Among millennial women,it is very common practice to claim that their ex-bf/husband was abusive to them and that is why they left; this does not mean only physical abuse but sometime mental. Our society has this narrative that men are monsters and can not be genuinely good people while women are seen as victims that are manipulated by men into doing bad acts more often than not. When cases of men and women come up with the woman claiming the man did something horrible, society as a whole often sides with the women and condemns the man with the latter needing to find strong evidence to claim innocents.

Let's look at example with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard relationship. Back in 2016, Amber Heard claimed that Johnny Depp was "Abusive and domestically abused her". She even punched her face and then claimed it was from a direct assault by Depp and that for years he was abusing her in fits of drunk rage. Amber even took photos of Johnny pelting glass (not at her) over the death of his mother as "evidence" of him being abusive in order to trap him into a metoo.

Our society believing men are bad and women are innocent quickly came to the aid of Amber and threw Johnny under the bus. Johnny was even given a restraining order and told he could not visit his own home, with amber heard GF taking up residency there. Thankfully she was not able to walk away with 1/2 of Johnny's money during the divorce proceedings as he was able to provide sizable evidence of her being abusive to him (via secret tape recordings) but she did walk away with 7 million dollars of his money. As a result of the bad press towards Johnny, Disney dropped him as Jack Sparrow and he's been blacklisted by many directors in hollywood.

Now new info is coming out with video and audio evidence of Amber being abusive both physically and mentally to Johnny depp for years and now all of a sudden people are joining his side and support him.

In our society,men must prove their innocents. Women are seen as innocent until evidence surfaces that proves they are not.

It's true

Also step dads are the worst people to ever exist. They will all burn in hell with pitch fork up their jaxies. Every lady one of them

Feminism is state founded. Once economic crisis comes it'll all go away.

Our society has this narrative that men are monsters and can not be genuinely good people while women are seen as victims that are manipulated by men into doing bad acts more often than not.

Get off of twitter and go outside. Society overwhelmingly does not hold this opinion. There are problems with how men and women are generally perceived in society but "Men are incapable of being good and women are incapable of being evil" is not one of them.

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Agree, the op is obviously really bias. Granted divorce are total BS, and ridiculous in of itself. That being said, everything else stated are problems, but not to the extend the op believe it is.

Our society has no narrative. A gf and bf break up, the girl says it was his fault and he was abusive. Ask the bf and he’ll say it was her fault and she’s crazy. We have both narratives.

The fact you respond in this manner shows that a perfect example of the problem men face in society.

@harrynorine:

Yeah. Woman can get away with way too much in the West without having to experience serious repercussions.

I don't think the majority of society holds this view. The media might push this narrative, but the media is not society. People generally know that it can be both ways just out of common sense.

There are a lot of dudes in this thread very eager for their victimhood badges. GAH! I am a victim of the millenial feminists! Oh noes!!

There are alot of cases of women abusing against their male partners in silence, in a lot of those situations, men can't go to the police and make an accusation because of shame, in other situations despite of men calling the authorities for help, the authorities are likely to still favour women if they say something against despite the evidence of physical aggression against men, women come up with the fairy tale that their men were abusing them before despite not being the case.

Some men are too stupid when it comes to choosing their female partners, indecent women but because they look pretty, that's what they get, nowadays, women are losing respect toward men and it's not because they do it most times because of self-initiative, but because the media advertises female victimhood and the antagonization of men in the society. The Left-wing is behind this all, because men advocates for capitalism, nationalism, most businessmen are males, most industrialists are male, most soldiers are male, while women, mostly occupy social branches and social branches will always pay less than engineering or finances.

Engineering was always instinctively assimilated by men, the virtue to make deals, mercantilism, etc...

Male children like Lego, there is way more demand by male children than by female children when it comes to Lego and other toys which require engineering capabilities, it's naturally the case, while female children like doctor toys, aesthetics, design, etc...

When females start learning to read, they have a strong tendency to love drama book series or movies and drama entails psychology and there is a lot of women practicing psychology, more than men, it's instinctively, it's in the DNA, it's part of evolution.

Y'all wildin'.

Agree.

These hands are bisexual.

@abstractraze said:

There are alot of cases of women abusing against their male partners in silence, in a lot of those situations, men can't go to the police and make an accusation because of shame, in other situations despite of men calling the authorities for help, the authorities are likely to still favour women if they say something against despite the evidence of physical aggression against men, women come up with the fairy tale that their men were abusing them before despite not being the case.

Some men are too stupid when it comes to choosing their female partners, indecent women but because they look pretty, that's what they get, nowadays, women are losing respect toward men and it's not because they do it most times because of self-initiative, but because the media advertises female victimhood and the antagonization of men in the society. The Left-wing is behind this all, because men advocates for capitalism, nationalism, most businessmen are males, most industrialists are male, most soldiers are male, while women, mostly occupy social branches and social branches will always pay less than engineering or finances.

Engineering was always instinctively assimilated by men, the virtue to make deals, mercantilism, etc...

Male children like Lego, there is way more demand by male children than by female children when it comes to Lego and other toys which require engineering capabilities, it's naturally the case, while female children like doctor toys, aesthetics, design, etc...

When females start learning to read, they have a strong tendency to love drama book series or movies and drama entails psychology and there is a lot of women practicing psychology, more than men, it's instinctively, it's in the DNA, it's part of evolution.

I don't believe in evolution but I agree with everything else otherwise.

I have no idea what Lego, girls's reading interests, men virtues in engineering and girls playing doctors has to do with OP's question.

Well, Lego is a toy, where you can build something, assemble pieces to other pieces and therefore complete the following house, car, etc... it requires engineering capabilities and Lego has way more demand by male children than by female children, both sexes have their own preferences from very premature days.

To enlighten your mind a bit, I was justifying the simple fact about why The Left Wing / Socialists are attacking men and supporting female victimhood through the media, it's for the simple reason that men are less correlated to social branches than women, women are more concerned to help people directly, while men are more correlated with technician jobs, engineering, business, architecture, etc...

Men are pro-capitalism and men are more territorial than women, which doesn't wonder me at all, all the infrastructure that we know in our own countries was mainly kept by men, only very few women were correlated with it, but our health, either physical or psychological, was mainly led by women.

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All of this has to do with evolution, such as the reason why we have phobias to certain creatures, noises, shadows, sometimes when we are out there in the forest, in the dark and we hear noises we never heard before, we have fear, it's because our ancestors were killed over and over again by such creatures, because of poison, infections, lethal wounds, etc...

If you have fear or feel repulsion by those images, it means you have trypophobia:

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But why you have fear? because it resembles the appearance of a person with skin diseases, even though you never saw a person that sick, you feel repulsion, because millions of years before, your ancestry had to endure the entire pain of this disease due to the lack of medicine.

Sooo... You are saying that the Lefties are attacking men because they are against capitalism?

@doctornowadays: Well, if we go to the past, during the beginnings of a very primitive civilization, men were always in charge to hunt, construction, mercantilism and lead wars or conflicts against other tribes, while women weren't familiar to that stuff, usually, women had to look for their wounded men, whether physically or psychologically, to instruct their children, etc... and during hard times when there was a lack of men in order to hunt, those not only leading to a lack of food but pelts/leather in order to clothe, because of lost battles where alot of men died, women had to come up with an alternative, which is the agriculture and textiles.

Conclusion

So, it's true that men are more capitalists than women, women are it too, but in a different way, under different circumstances.

Amber Heard is a bitch that's the conclusion I've come too ready this thread

Women are the sneaky syblings who quietly tease the other syblings. Men are the other syblings who react loudly and then get in trouble from the parents

Forget abuse, how about we talk about how men are expected to put the seat down, but women don’t have to put it back up?

I demand equal bathroom rights!

That gender could decide political orientation on today's society, as logical as you make it sound, is absurd IMO.

When you flush, if the lid of the WC is up, millions of particles are sprayed several meters around. So, lid down. Thank you.

@buckwheat: traitor

No no, you are completely misunderstanding, there are women who are good engineers, good at finances, there are women who are conservative too and completely advocate for its national sovereignty, for the second amendment, etc..

For the simple fact you are born as a man or as a woman, it doesn't have to strictly decide over your fate, whether occupational, politically or ideologically.

But if we look at the numbers during the last elections in the U.S, women had the tendency to vote for the left and the majority of men voted right.

"Only showing what white men or women elected in order to avoid the racial card."

It's because through the course of evolution which is no more and less than biological adaptability, fears, phobias, musculature development, immune system, specializations which entails brain coordination those optimizing mutual cooperation between males and females.

Women are inherently or cognitively disconnected from the importance to absolutely prioritize its tribe, its nation, its kingdom over foreigners, it's because, through the course of millions of years of evolution, men always fought at the fronts, men always had to protect its tribe and sacrifice themselves at the battle and when men won the battles against other tribes, men were the ones in offering deals to the other tribe which lost the battle, sometimes they came up with peace agreements or annexation agreements.

When an annexation happened, the women from the victorious side saw how foreign wounded men came for aid, women didn't truly know what happened, but for the simple fact that the foreigners became new friends with their men, women helped those foreigners, but the empirical experience, what happened in the background, was inherently assimilated by men through evolution because women did not see al that stuff, such the sacrifice, the fierce battles, and diplomatic events.

Statistically speaking, women have the tendency to face harsh times when studying engineering, finances, architecture and other technical jobs, but when it comes to biochemistry, chemistry, medicine, psychology and numerous other social branches women were always in contact with through the course of evolution, there is a favorable tendency of assimilation.

There are alot of articles in the internet that mentions those facts, in some articles, the left, of course, uses the stereotype card, trying to limit the issue as a mere cultural problem, because the left is obsessed to picture all humans as equal which is a blatant misconception, independently speaking, all humans are different.

Such as we developed phobias who are deeply printed into our genetics and expressed as instincts, thanks to our ancestral experience, we developed our specializations in order to gain the maximal optimization through the course of evolution.

"Only showing what white men or women elected in order to avoid the racial card."

Ok, but what if a majority of women did not like Trump, not because of left or right, but because of sexism?

It's because through the course of evolution which is no more and less than biological adaptability, fears, phobias, musculature development, immune system, specializations which entails brain coordination those optimizing mutual cooperation between males and females.

Women are inherently or cognitively disconnected from the importance to absolutely prioritize its tribe, its nation, its kingdom over foreigners, it's because, through the course of millions of years of evolution, men always fought at the fronts, men always had to protect its tribe and sacrifice themselves at the battle and when men won the battles against other tribes, men were the ones in offering deals to the other tribe which lost the battle, sometimes they came up with peace agreements or annexation agreements.

When an annexation happened, the women from the victorious side saw how foreign wounded men came for aid, women didn't truly know what happened, but for the simple fact that the foreigners became new friends with their men, women helped those foreigners, but the empirical experience, what happened in the background, was inherently assimilated by men through evolution because women did not see al that stuff, such the sacrifice, the fierce battles, and diplomatic events.

Statistically speaking, women have the tendency to face harsh times when studying engineering, finances, architecture and other technical jobs, but when it comes to biochemistry, chemistry, medicine, psychology and numerous other social branches women were always in contact with through the course of evolution, there is a favorable tendency of assimilation.

There are alot of articles in the internet that mentions those facts, in some articles, the left, of course, uses the stereotype card, trying to limit the issue as a mere cultural problem, because the left is obsessed to picture all humans as equal which is a blatant misconception, independently speaking, all humans are different.

Such as we developed phobias who are deeply printed into our genetics and expressed as instincts, thanks to our ancestral experience, we developed our specializations in order to gain the maximal optimization through the course of evolution.

This is interesting, because I agree that women and men are not the same, not only physically but also psychologically. And I agree with many points in your post. Jet I do not feel I completely agree with you.

And you write that, no no, no, you don't mean to say gender can decide political orientation, and jet you show me the numbers that would allegedly back that statement.

This is obviously a theme with many tones of grey.

lol. I said lid down, to keep germs in. You can do as you choose with the seat.

The problem is, if your girl lifts the seat after she pisses, and then you go to num 2 without noticing the seat is up, you will sit without the seat. That happened to me once damnit.

Sexism is no more and less than a stereotype, which basically can be used whether against men or women, it embraces an unrealistic prejudice, because whether men or women, no one is existentially above the other one for the simple reason that both have different strengths. What good is it to protect the frontlines or the outer layers, when the inner core is weak, everything collapses like a domino effect, without women taking care for the sick, instructing the younger generations and coming up with alternatives whenever men confront defeat, men's physical prowess, engineering capabilities, battle capabilities, and mercantilism becomes worthless strengths.

I know what you're trying to point out.

It's true that women inherently holds a very hidden resentment against men and don't take me wrong, it's completely rational.

When men cheat on their women, women usually react with a certain amount of panic and emotional backlash, when women usually cheat on men, men reacts with anger and emotional backlash.

This is because through the course of evolution, even before the homo-erectus existed, till today (modern humans), so, we're talking since a very primitive ancestor, men always had to fight for his tribe and die at the frontlines and sacrifice himself in order to keep his women and his kids safe, but it was a very horrible experience for women, because, in alot of situations, their men didn't come back home, they had to rise their children alone before pairing with another male.

This happened over and over again for millions of years, women had to always confront with this pain, those becoming a very hidden phobia codified in the very deep passages of their genes.

Every time a female bonds a to a men, there is a very hidden or subconscious phobia that someday, their men won't come back home.

It's naturally that you don't agree on many points, it's a very complex topic, I could be wrong on many details too.

Yes, gender decides the political orientation on a big scale, but individually speaking, it's not strictly the case.

Our nature isn't inherently a perfect algorithmic pattern, you can't compare our species to ants, animals who developed an algorithmic behavior while sacrificing their individuality.

We humans, we own our individuality, as men, we could sometimes strongly inherit qualities from women, and women could strongly inherit the qualities of men, but it's a rare phenomenon.

This is not wrong by any mean, but apart of a few outliers, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

The majority of rape victims are men. The majority of violent crime victims are men. The majority of murder vicrims are men. The majority of assault victims are men. The majority of robbery victims are men. Most of the people who die in war, both civilian and combatant, are men. The majority of homeless are men. The majority of workplace fatalities are men. Men are more likely to be sentenced to prison for similar crimes. Men pay the majority of taxes in this country, make up the majority of the police and fire fighting forces, and have to register for selective service. Most EMT respondents are men. Men work longer hours in more dangerous occupations, for lower relative pay, and they work for more years. The majority of suicides are men...we live in a consitutional republic with a market economy where women hold 84 percent of the buying power and 52 percent of vote.

The idea that women are victims in our society is blatant bullshit.

"women are victims" made better advertisements of causes. Its something inherent in a male-dominated society that feminists ironically exploit, and the males themselves are now complaining about a system they themselves set up?

No wonder people say that "men are trash". Perhaps that's true.

You're talking like the different sexes are a hive mind. And "we" were really happy that "we" made a system where a woman can get caught being unfaithful and still get half of the things we own.

Which as I said, was due to a male-dominated, toxic masculinity culture that caused these males to complain about double standards.

Given your example, the explanation is simple. Women are treated better because the toxic masculinity culture tells the men that "you are not a woman, you are stronger so you can take it. Women are weaker so they need to be protected."

If any men are not happy, they can feel free to destroy the toxic masculinity they had set up for centuries. Otherwise they should just shut up and suck it up, because after all, they are stronger and therefore they can take it, right?

Most people on Twitter are cancerous cancel culture promoting boneheads. There is a stigma that exists when a man reports abuse and the woman tends to be taken more seriously, but the majority opinion of radicals on Twitter really shouldn’t be used as a valid example of a majority public opinion.

Men can't be raped by a female. The female need an outside instrument to penetrate and rape a male (a artificial intercourse, may not guarantee orgasm), or induce an erection (real intercourse) which is called "made to penetrate" and is a sexual assault not rape.

All men needs is to get horny and to stick it in. Very straightforward. A women doesn't need to be aroused even remotely to get raped or get pregnant