Should the ISIS bride be aloud to return to the UK?

ISIS isn't something you just quit, if in fact she is allowed to come back, she should be kept under close supervision on all her activities, because something just doesn't seem right about the situation.

Come back as a detainee not a citizen.

@mrmonster

Yes, she should be allowed to return...so that she can face a prison sentence, and so that her son can be put up for adoption. I was sort of sympathetic towards her until I heard the section that started with "But despite her apology..." I did a little more reading on her, and turns out she has no regrets about leaving for Syria in the first place, she said so herself.

If nothing else just let her return so that her son can be put in a loving, non-militant family while she's in prison.

Nah, enjoy Syria milady.

She is an englishwoman by birth, so I don't think it is right to not accept her.

But as far as I am concerned, she has declared herself as an enemy of the state as well as aiding and abetting terrorism, among other things.

Let her go to the UK if that is really where she wants to go, as her birthright - and right into a 5x5 cell.

Agreed.

She still has ISIS sympathies...so yes she should be allowed to return but must face lengthy prison time for her crimes. Her son deserves MUCH MUCH better than being raised as a radical militant because of her stupid mistakes.

She's admitted to having sympathies for ISIS and that means she could continue posing a danger after she's been allowed to return. Even if she goes to prison she might be able to radicalise new members from there. On that basis, I don't believe she should be allowed to return to the UK.

She is a known sympathizer who basically committed what would amount to treason against her country. If she goes to prison she would likely join a organization to radicalize new members from there, as prison is where many are radicalized.

I do like to believe people can change, but I dont think she has. Let her rot there, but let her kid come back

She's already radicalized so the worry would be if she radicalize others. It would be nice to get her son away from her though and raised in a level headed family. I guess it would bring up the question on how much contact, influence she would get from the inside and if she ever gets out and takes custody of him afterwords and the problems the spring from that.

are people in the uk really that thick enough to let an ISIS sympathizer in ?

Yes...but as a detainee and under close supervision.

No, she's not even apologetic. IIRC she claims that watching an innocent man get beheaded in the name of Allah doesn't even faze her. This lady is insane and a threat. Keep her ass out!

I bet you mean "allowed"!

No. She has effectively joined an organisation that has declared war upon the United Kingdom and its allies.

The only thing she deserves is being hanged from a crane, very slowly and painfully. Hopefully Syria or Iraq will provide it, since the UK doesn't have a death penalty.

The kid can be returned tho.

If there was some way to allow just the kid to come back for adoption that would be ideal. If that's not possible then allow them both back, lock her up and then put the kid up for adoption. The mother would also have to forgo any rights to her child in the future.

No. She should be captured and hung.

Englishwoman? There's no english citizenship, the english people are an ethnic group, the people descended from the Anglo-Saxons.

She could be a british citizen though.

And I don't think her son will have british citizenship, but I could be wrong.

Absolutely not!

I have zero sympathy for this girl or her child. She's 19. She's had 3 years to change her mind before she became an adult, but to this day she still sympathizes with ISIS. She should be captured by special forces, locked in a jail until her day in court, tried as an adult for treason, and if found guilty face the highest punishment for that crime. The only reason a civilized society should allow her on their soil is to deliver retribution for her actions. No asylum. Her child should live with its father, whomever that may be, and not be a burden on the civilized society. The only exception would be if the child has family living in the UK that is willing to take care of it.

I believe in redemption and second chances, so yes.

Back in the day traitors would have been executed, and she is no exception, of course we now live in a world that is more democratic and less barbaric, still she should not be allowed to return based on the fact that she is a terrorist sympathiser and has fought for isis (a declared enemy of the UK). Her case has been publicised for an unusual reason, because as far as im concerned she is not the only one to have tried to return from fighting isis, there are several so called "refugees" that have mysteriously ventured there way here and have also been associated with isis, wouldnt be surprised if the next false flag is 3 times worse than the previous ones

Yes. Let her back in but keep an eye on her.

Decisions have consequences.

This.

I mean, I get that she was 15 but still, you must’ve won the genetic intelligence(or the lack thereof) lottery to be so braindead at that age.

The only reason I can think of letting her come back would be due to her poor kid, and even then, she’d have to be under very strict surveillance.

Its even more mind-boggling that she still has sympathies for them and makes that moronic comparison between their actions and coalition strikes.

Asked to respond to comments that she could be potentially very dangerous if she returned, she said: "They don't have any evidence against me doing anything dangerous, when I went to Syria I was just a housewife, the entire four years I stayed at home, took care of my husband, took care of my kids, I never did anything... I never made propaganda, I never encouraged people to come to Syria.

"Because women and children are being killed back in the Islamic State right now and it's kind of retaliation.

"Like, their justification was that it was retaliation so I thought 'OK, that is a fair justification'."

Just hang her already.

Surely this much stupidity is deserving of that.

Let her in. Give her counseling. Everyone is happy.

She should return for the sole purpose of saving that child.

She should be placed into solitary confinement and considered an enemy of the state, as well.

No, she’s an adult that literally STILL sympathises with ISIS. Let alone the fact that she’s blatantly using her baby as a bargaining chip and her reactions to everything indicate that she’s either brain dead or lacks remorse, probably a bit of both.

Offer to take the baby in if her family are willing, it’s the definition of innocent. Let her stay and live with the consequences of her actions.

Not even close. I read the whole story and she has NO REMORSE and still believes in terrorism.

If she dies over there it'll be nice.

Yes.

Let her rot there and let her kid come back and have no contact with her.

I don't know the rights granted to the UK's citizens, but I imagine she cannot be legally denied her birthright citizenship. That said, she should be put on trial on charges of aiding terrorism as soon as possible, her child should be taken away and placed in suitable care, and she should spend most of her life behind bars.

@ourmanuel said:

Asked to respond to comments that she could be potentially very dangerous if she returned, she said: "They don't have any evidence against me doing anything dangerous, when I went to Syria I was just a housewife, the entire four years I stayed at home, took care of my husband, took care of my kids, I never did anything... I never made propaganda, I never encouraged people to come to Syria.

"Because women and children are being killed back in the Islamic State right now and it's kind of retaliation.

"Like, their justification was that it was retaliation so I thought 'OK, that is a fair justification'."

Just hang her already.

Surely this much stupidity is deserving of that.

Its a well known fact that the wives of ISIS fighters had a huge hand in the abuse of Yazidi women and girls sexually enslaved by the terrorists. I regret having to do this but Imma post this link right here.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nishitajha/isis-yazidi-shamima-begum-hoda-muthana

“There has been no effort to understand why these ISIS brides are guilty,” she told BuzzFeed News. “In some cases, [the wives] would lock our Yazidi women in the houses so they could not escape. They would force them to do manual labor, humiliate them in captivity; they were beaten and tortured by the ISIS wives.”

Thousands of Yazidi women and girls were forced into sexual slavery by ISIS as part of its genocide against Yazidis in northern Iraq.

ISIS began its genocide against the Yazidis, an ethno-religious group in Iraq, in 2014 — killing men, taking women into captivity and forcing them into sexual slavery, and destroying Yazidi pilgrimage sites and houses of worship. In her book, The Last Girl,Nobel Peace Prize winner Nadia Murad, who survived the ISIS torture camps, details the horrors faced by women like her who were sold in markets, and even on Facebook, sometimes for as little as $20.

The ISIS pamphlet “Questions and Answers on Taking Captives and Slaves” gave a free pass to soldiers for the raping, selling, buying, or gifting of Yazidi women and children, “for they are merely property.”

Ibrahim said the torture of Yazidi women was often psychological, and the “ISIS wives” were “incredibly cruel” in this regard. One of the younger Yazidi survivors told Ibrahim that a woman had “forbidden” her from crying, although the Yazidi woman’s entire family had been massacred by ISIS fighters. Others spoke about how women who were part of ISIS forced them to recite the Qur’an and denounce their own religion.

“In some cases, [the wives] were the ones who made women shower and put on clean clothes and makeup before they were brought to the men to be raped,” Ibrahim said via email from Washington, DC. “They were absolutely complicit, and they knew very well what they were doing.”

ISIS hates the Yazidi even more so than Christians and Jews - at least we are "people of the book" or so they say. The Yazidi are considered polytheists and sorcerors because they worship an angel peacock named Melek Taus and as such there is no mercy against them. Anyone who expreses sympathy for the "ISIS wives" is essentially spitting in the face of their victims.