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#1 Posted by darklord_apoc (2184 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly it would not matter to me if they did not air Cartoon Network anymore!! Here is some of the GOOD shows they cut off: Teen Titans (the original one), Young Justice, Green Lantern, He-Man (2002 series), and Thundercats (2011 series).... These were some good ass shows and even Cartoon Network admitted that a lot of them had positive ratings, but due to them not selling enough toys they did away with a lot of these shows, even though some of these shows were more for mature audience! So do they honestly think that young adults are going to buy some action figures and get in the floor and start playing toys? This is nonsense, and I no longer even watch Cartoon Network because of this. They will start a good show that most of us fall in love with and then in the end they will cancel it and leave us in a cliffhanger! I mean some other networks have done the same, but not as bad, at least, not that I know of! I do not mind if a show lasts 1 season but what I do mind is when they give us cliffhangers! For example: Thundercats (2011) was number 1 in their timeslot and they told us that it would have 50+ episodes but then they lied to us about that and now they are saying that even though it did amazing, it did not sell as much toys! Who cares? It was more for older viewers, and plus toys nowadays cost an arm and a leg... I mean look at other shows that are for young adults, they do not sell a lot of toys and some do not even make toys for their shows... Instead Cartoon Network gives us shows like Gumball, Teen Titan's Go, Adventure Time instead of epic shows! As I said, I can deal with a series only having 1 or 2 seasons, but when they do these cliffhangers, it is not fair or right for us fans who want to know what happens next, at least finish the shows even if it is 20 episodes!! I wish I could get others to stop watching Cartoon Network, so maybe then they will think about us fans and not over priced toys! So do any of you guys agree? What shows did you love that was cancelled before their time?

P.S As I said Cartoon Network is not the only channel that has done this but they seem to be doing it more than any other network. "Wolverine and the X-Men", was on Nicktoons, and it was cancelled, and Nicktoons said that it was one of the most watched high rating shows on their network, but due to not enough toys being sold and disagreements, they cancelled some thing good and epic, but at least this is not with almost every show they put out and they have a few good shows that they did not cancel before its time. Toon Disney had "Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go" that did awesome but that show also ended up as a cliffhanger.. Disney XD, cancelled "The Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes", but at least they did not make it a cliffhanger, and they did make a sequel to it! The newer Avenger Assemble series is already going to be on its second season, and when I go to Walmart, I do not see a bunch of "Avengers Assemble" toys, but yet they're making a second season, and so far not leaving us in a cliffhanger!

I wish if Cartoon Network is going to continue making shows and leaving us in a cliffhanger, that they at least finish it on either DVD or Netflix!

Anyways, which shows did you guys love that was cancelled and left you in a cliffhanger? I really would love to know....

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#2 Posted by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

TL;DR.

Someone's salty.

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#3 Posted by DarthAznable (16928 posts) - - Show Bio

I stopped at Thundercats. That showed sucks.

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#4 Posted by Darling_Luna (12918 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

TTGO is actually good.

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#6 Edited by kgb725 (19210 posts) - - Show Bio

Well the point is to sell toys ratings or not

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#7 Posted by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaken7: *throws salt at*

*gives you bad luck for spilling salt and then throwing it*

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#8 Posted by _Atomikill_ (4911 posts) - - Show Bio

My brothers forced me to try and memorize the theme to Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go when I was younger...

Never forgive, never forget.

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#9 Posted by RisingBean (9803 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree. I won't even watch cartoons until I get at least 2 seasons to watch and if I research and finds it ends on a cliffhanger, I may still skip it.

I blame the writers of producers for not concluding their arcs and screwing fans just as much as the networks do by cancelling the show.

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#10 Posted by Darling_Luna (12918 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaken7: *is salting you for Pennywise*

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#11 Posted by Frozen (21133 posts) - - Show Bio

Teen Titans has nothing on the Justice League.

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#12 Posted by darklord_apoc (2184 posts) - - Show Bio

It just makes me mad (salty) that a lot of good shows have left us hanging in cliffhangers... I do not see how Gumball, and other non epic cartoons make it more than the epic ones do... Can anyone honestly say TTGO is better than the original Teen Titans? I mean if you like funny shows then I guess you can say it is better, but why do most of the serious and epic shows get cancelled before their time? Anyways, which shows did you guys like that got cancelled? @comic_book_fan@lukehero@jedixman@shootingnova@vaeternus@reikai

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#13 Posted by Black_Claw (3375 posts) - - Show Bio

If it makes you feel better, at least Stuart Synder is finally gone.

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#14 Posted by Bierschneeman (4311 posts) - - Show Bio

eh, don't care.

if you get to know about economics in tv programming, and look at how much cartoon network was ACTUALLY SPENDING on keeping those shows on the air, you'd see that they just weren't making enough money to justify keeping it. they rely heavily these days on income from toys, so they can spend more money on writers and air time, promotions, and rights. they are able to make such good shows that you might get pissy about a cancellation BECAUSE they earn the extra income from toys. so if a show they are making isn't selling toys, they would be actually producing the shows at a financial loss, Thundercats is a good example, that show was supposed to cost more than they were earning from it.

you can't legitimately ask a company to continue producing a product at the companies expense, that's just irresponsibly selfishly unintelligent.

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#15 Posted by TrueKing95 (809 posts) - - Show Bio

@bierschneeman: I can't quote because I'm on my phone but this is correct. Cartoonnetwork will not show as many serious shows simply because they are not as profitable as shows for kids. However that being said, I do like adventure time and regular show only.

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#16 Edited by Spideysense44 (3839 posts) - - Show Bio

What about real tv shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog, Johnny Bravo, Billy and Mandy, Camp Lazlo, Flapjack, 6teen

Heman and thundercats got low ratings none of these shows ever did

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#17 Posted by godzilla44 (7455 posts) - - Show Bio

F!&k Cartoon Network for leaving us Young Justice and Teen Titans Fans on the biggest cliffhangers ever. F!#king Darseid was going to show up wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#18 Posted by darklord_apoc (2184 posts) - - Show Bio

eh, don't care.

if you get to know about economics in tv programming, and look at how much cartoon network was ACTUALLY SPENDING on keeping those shows on the air, you'd see that they just weren't making enough money to justify keeping it. they rely heavily these days on income from toys, so they can spend more money on writers and air time, promotions, and rights. they are able to make such good shows that you might get pissy about a cancellation BECAUSE they earn the extra income from toys. so if a show they are making isn't selling toys, they would be actually producing the shows at a financial loss, Thundercats is a good example, that show was supposed to cost more than they were earning from it.

you can't legitimately ask a company to continue producing a product at the companies expense, that's just irresponsibly selfishly unintelligent.

Yet they have shows airing that do not sell toys at all? Thundercats and Young Justice had the most ratings of their time slot, so it was not like they were poor shows, they were real good shows, and I never seen hardly Thundercat toys in the stores, so it was not like people did not want to buy them but most of these local stories did not sell them.... Also Thundercats was PG 13 the same as Starwars clone wars, so it was not like a little kids show and they even put it on Adult Swim, and can you name 1 show on Adult Swim that sells toys? What is unintelligent is making all these dumb shows they have on airing but yet they leave cliffhangers on the good shows....

@spideysense44: no those were all good shows back then, but what I do not get like so many people do not get is why do they get rid of the epic shows? They replaced Young Justice with Teen Titans Go, which Young Justice and Green Lantern did way better than that show did...

@godzilla44: I know right? The only 3 good shows that I would call epic and say lasted the longest was the Ben 10 series, Justice League series, and Starwars the clone wars series.. The rest of the shows they will cancel them and not even care to at least finish it without leaving us in cliffhangers... Another good show was Inyushia (Adult Swim) which did very, very, very well and I do not recall them making lots of toys of Inyushia.... Classic Cartoon Network did way better back in the day then they do now so that should say something about the shows they air for us to watch.. Sailor Moon & Dragon Ball Z also was epic and helped Cartoon Network have a lot of ratings, and besides Dragon Ball Z, I did not see a lot of Sailor Moon toys but yet since it produced so much ratings they made about like, what, 6 seasons? Point is that if Cartoon Network knows that they will cancel all the good shows that fans love watching then they should stick with the shows they have now and not remake a show like Thundercats, or any old show, only for them to cancel it before it is even finished.

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#19 Edited by JohnnyZ256 (6484 posts) - - Show Bio

This belongs in the Off-Topic forum.

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#20 Posted by Farkam (12036 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, they kind of suck.

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#21 Posted by AllStarHit-Girl (697 posts) - - Show Bio

I am still upset about young justice

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#22 Posted by Superlightning123 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

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#24 Edited by thatguywithheadphones (19859 posts) - - Show Bio

Adventure Time and Steven Universe> All the shows you've mentioned.

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#28 Posted by woundermangirl (326 posts) - - Show Bio

why you hate in on cn it a good show dog

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#30 Posted by YodaPrime (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea. it's life tho.. great shows get canceled constantly.

seriously.. that thundercats was a lot better than i expected. Caught it on toonami when they were airing it a while ago.

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#31 Posted by SC (18159 posts) - - Show Bio

@woundermangirl: Your behavior is odd and not odd in a good way. Refrain from addressing users in a personal context or telling them to kiss your butt and then posting pictures of cartoon butts. This is a warning not to do so. Thank you.

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#32 Posted by woundermangirl (326 posts) - - Show Bio

ok my bad

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#34 Edited by Mediocregeist (727 posts) - - Show Bio

@sc said:

@woundermangirl: Your behavior is odd and not odd in a good way. Refrain from addressing users in a personal context or telling them to kiss your butt and then posting pictures of cartoon butts. This is a warning not to do so. Thank you.

Kiss my butte!

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#35 Posted by SC (18159 posts) - - Show Bio

@mediocregeist: Promotion of beautiful natural rock formations is allowable and encouraged. Granted I hope that really is your butte and that you are not appropriating it from indigenous peoples.

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#36 Edited by Mediocregeist (727 posts) - - Show Bio

@sc: Don't tell anyone, but I stole it >.>

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#37 Posted by Fodder76 (1951 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol!

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#38 Posted by Farkam (12036 posts) - - Show Bio

@sc said:

@woundermangirl: Your behavior is odd and not odd in a good way. Refrain from addressing users in a personal context or telling them to kiss your butt and then posting pictures of cartoon butts. This is a warning not to do so. Thank you.

Kiss my butte!

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So you are the real Ben Grimm then?

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#39 Posted by Fodder76 (1951 posts) - - Show Bio

I would think so. XD

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#41 Posted by russellmania77 (17601 posts) - - Show Bio

Pshh rick and morty, Steven universe, adventure time and regular show are still on so screw u cn haters

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#42 Posted by Fodder76 (1951 posts) - - Show Bio

They did leave young justice and Teen Titans unfinished...

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#43 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (24672 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved GL:TAS and YJ as much as any other comicbook fan but Adventure Time and Steven Universe aren't really as bad as you think

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#44 Posted by ARMIV2 (10074 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been salty with them since the whole "cancelling Chowder" thing.

Yes, I know it has been four years now, and that there are other good shows on Cartoon Network, but it wasn't just them cancelling it that burns me.
Oh, and DC Nation.

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#45 Posted by Yung ANcient One (5308 posts) - - Show Bio

I. Boy, do I dislike LONG winded paragraphs. Your first paragraph can easily be 3 different paragraphs. It is easier for the eyes you know.

II. I don't know how old you are which is affecting my judgement on the post.

III. I can understand your frustration but it isn't a big deal. You posted, one will fall in love with a show and then it gets cancelled and it sucks. Yes, it sucks but that is life, sometimes it sucks. How about falling in love with someone, building a life together, and have him/her break your trust, steal your money, and et cetera.

There are worse things that can happen in life other than shows being cancelled.

IV. "it did not sell as much toys! Who cares?" Obviously, the corporation. These shows cost money to make, if they are not making money, why would they continue making the show? Cartoons are a business.

V. Yes, the 90's Spider-Man cartoon ended in a cliffhanger and it sucked for me. You know what happened, I got over it. I seen this happen several times. I have now realized, you, me, we can come up with the story for ourselves. We can make a fan fiction of how the show ended after the cliffhanger.

VI. I'd like to post more but this post is too long already for average users. (+)

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#46 Posted by darklord_apoc (2184 posts) - - Show Bio

I. Boy, do I dislike LONG winded paragraphs. Your first paragraph can easily be 3 different paragraphs. It is easier for the eyes you know.

II. I don't know how old you are which is affecting my judgement on the post.

III. I can understand your frustration but it isn't a big deal. You posted, one will fall in love with a show and then it gets cancelled and it sucks. Yes, it sucks but that is life, sometimes it sucks. How about falling in love with someone, building a life together, and have him/her break your trust, steal your money, and et cetera.

There are worse things that can happen in life other than shows being cancelled.

IV. "it did not sell as much toys! Who cares?" Obviously, the corporation. These shows cost money to make, if they are not making money, why would they continue making the show? Cartoons are a business.

V. Yes, the 90's Spider-Man cartoon ended in a cliffhanger and it sucked for me. You know what happened, I got over it. I seen this happen several times. I have now realized, you, me, we can come up with the story for ourselves. We can make a fan fiction of how the show ended after the cliffhanger.

VI. I'd like to post more but this post is too long already for average users. (+)

If you are talking about me then can you tell me how anything you said has to do with falling in love? Just because someone states an opinion does not mean it is affecting them badly, but this is general discussion after all is it not? I think we all been hurt and lost trust with someone we loved, but this has nothing to do with what I posted lol... I mean it is not the end of the world and there is more serious issues than this but still yet this is a talk page and my topic is no different than any other topic on this forum site... No one is trying to get a petition done against Cartoon Network just because someone states an opinion.

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#47 Posted by Mitran (399 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm over it by now.

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#48 Edited by Bierschneeman (4311 posts) - - Show Bio

@darklord_apoc said:

@bierschneeman said:

eh, don't care.

if you get to know about economics in tv programming, and look at how much cartoon network was ACTUALLY SPENDING on keeping those shows on the air, you'd see that they just weren't making enough money to justify keeping it. they rely heavily these days on income from toys, so they can spend more money on writers and air time, promotions, and rights. they are able to make such good shows that you might get pissy about a cancellation BECAUSE they earn the extra income from toys. so if a show they are making isn't selling toys, they would be actually producing the shows at a financial loss, Thundercats is a good example, that show was supposed to cost more than they were earning from it.

you can't legitimately ask a company to continue producing a product at the companies expense, that's just irresponsibly selfishly unintelligent.

and I never seen hardly Thundercat toys in the stores, so it was not like people did not want to buy them but most of these local stories did not sell them.... Also Thundercats was PG 13 the same as Starwars clone wars, so it was not like a little kids show and they even put it on Adult Swim, and can you name 1 show on Adult Swim that sells toys? What is unintelligent is making all these dumb shows they have on airing but yet they leave cliffhangers on the good shows....

I saw Thundercats toys all the time when it was airing, they were always in stock at my local target, usually a sign that they aren't being sold. then they got hit with wave after wave of mark downs until they were finally clearanced. all in really quick succession.

you just named a show that was MASSIVELY supported by toys production. The Clone wars has a huge income from toys that no other show can beat, lo and behold, they were NOT CANCELLED, they went through the full course of production, they made as many episodes as they wanted to and retired the cartoon when they were good and ready to.

ohh speaking of Target, I was just out shopping, decided to take a spin on the toy aisles of every store I went into, guess what I saw.... Regular show, adventure time (A LOT OF IT TOO), ed edd and eddy (really....? still popular enough for toys?), a TON of Ben 10 (thoroughly rifled through) , Flapjack (who?) and a few more with CN labels I couldn't interpret which shows they belonged too. as well, a few years back I remember seeing lots of Samurai Jack, and Foster's Home. and of course, the ubiquitous Star Wars toys.

the intelligence is, they spend a ton of money on your so called good shows, and they see negative returns. they are spending more than they are earning off of them. but those dumb shows often cost less to make, and are earning hand over fist more.

if they rand things the way you are saying they should, theyd be out of business.

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#49 Posted by marvel_boy2241 (2548 posts) - - Show Bio

When i saw uncle Grandpa I was like fo real? Really? This is what you guys wanna do now, really?

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#50 Posted by Ryagan (5193 posts) - - Show Bio

I gave up on Cartoon Network years ago. They are definitely not what they used to be. I'm mad that one of my most-watched childhood channels has become crap, and I can't believe a show's lifespan is contingent on toy sales. That's probably why Disney XD keeps Ultimate Spider-Man on the air...