Russia has begun attacking Ukraine

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https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-23-22/index.html

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#2  Edited By Divyansh13

I sure do hope india doesn't get invloved and Russians don't commit 10000000000 war crimes😃

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Genuinely do hope that the absolute minimum comes out of this and very little lives are lost.

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#4  Edited By HydratedFubuki6

I hope it doesn't escalate into war, most of my relatives are in Eastern Europe.

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Just hoping it won’t escalate further more

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Imagine South Texas seceding and declaring itself an independent republic. That mexico recognize the new republic and sign with it treaties of protection and assistance. Let him open the border and deploy his army in the new territory.

Can anyone consider this scenario without further escalation ?

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@jacdec: Sir you are right but would USA like Mexico to align with Russia and let it deploy its weapons in its own territory?

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All good. War is nearly over

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Hoping it doesn't get worse. Although Eastern NATO countries like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland must be nervous.

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@jacdec: Sir you are right but would USA like Mexico to align with Russia and let it deploy its weapons in its own territory?

Prior to Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea (then Ukrainian territory), less than 20% of the Ukrainian population favored NATO membership. For 8 years, Russia has been trying to carve up Ukraine, which it wants to assimilate into its own territory. The recognition of the two self-proclaimed republics is a further step in this direction. The invasion of the whole of Ukraine, accompanied by bombardments on numerous cities and aimed, in addition to military infrastructures, at strategic, economic and civil infrastructures.

Ukraine was looking for a security partner to guarantee its integrity and freedom as a sovereign and democratic state. Knowing that Russia's ultimate goal has always been, since the fall of the USSR, to annex it to its own territory as it did in Crimea, what other choice could Ukraine have but NATO ?

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#11  Edited By cosmic_reign

US and it's Allies along with other neighboring countries should intervene and negotiate a PEACE TREATY 🤝

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Guys

can someone explain to me why they are fighting

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@marplay said:

Guys

can someone explain to me why they are fighting

Official statement is a section of Ukraine identifies as Russian.

Real reason some analyst say is because NATO pushing into that region and Russia wanting to prevent that.

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#15  Edited By forgivemegod

@jacdec: No sir you are not aware of the real situations because you live comfortably in west . In the start of the decade many post Soviet countries joined NATO this already pushed Russia to edge .Then in 2013 the pro Russian government fell down due to protests (probably west was behind this) and the newly selected government was a western pawn and seeing the trend with previous post soviet countries Ukraine was likely to join NATO to stop that Russia

did what it did and in 2014 to create unrest in the region and avoid NATO ”annexation“

So in conclusion it was a all a western plan to somehow ally with Ukraine and completely corner Russia but that plan failed and now Ukraine is suffering.

The west literally left no other choice to Russia.

I will ask again sir if Russia allies with Mexico and places its weaponry there will US quietly watch and do nothing about it.

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Yh been keeping up with the situation, can't say prayers to Ukrainians since it won't do much. Hopefully we can get out of this without much fighting or any.

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#17  Edited By Olorun

@forgivemegod: russian bots in 2022??? You're about 6 years late, suck yo mudda.

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@olorun: Well sir , west always hides the truth from Its people .

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@forgivemegod: ??? Are you done giving excuses for murder?? Russia starting a war when every country out there wanted peace and even wanted to talk to Putin is 100% on Putin.

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@dernman said:
@marplay said:

Guys

can someone explain to me why they are fighting

Official statement is a section of Ukraine identifies as Russian.

Real reason some analyst say is because NATO pushing into that region and Russia wanting to prevent that.

OOOOO thanks man

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@dernman said:
@marplay said:

Guys

can someone explain to me why they are fighting

Official statement is a section of Ukraine identifies as Russian.

Real reason some analyst say is because NATO pushing into that region and Russia wanting to prevent that.

Both actually. However, the most accurate reason is the fact that USA has intervened once again in the business of a country which they have almost no obligation to in order to "close out" Russia from the rest of Europe. They have deployed a part of their army and representatives in Ukraine and some other Easter European countries in order to put pressure on Russia and prevent the annexation of other Ukranian territories.

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Hopefully it doesn't result into a nuclear war.

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@darkrealm: Yeah, I'll find you in the afterlife and collect 100 bucks from you.

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I feel bad for those innocent Ukrainian citizens

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#29  Edited By forgivemegod
@olorun said:

@forgivemegod: ??? Are you done giving excuses for murder?? Russia starting a war when every country out there wanted peace and even wanted to talk to Putin is 100% on Putin.

Sir you have no idea what you are talking about, peace talks? really , if peace was what west wanted why was USA not giving insurance that they were not going to extend NATO further eastwards ? Why was the west pushing towards ”peace talks” on their and own terms and completely neglecting Russian interests and concerns? It is still not too late if west guarantees NATO will not expand war will stop immediately.

Sir I am not giving excuses for murder I condemn the war but there was no other way to stop NATO expansion diplomatic options were completely closed as west completely ignored Russian interests.

And sir you should not forget what the west did to Iraq Syria Afghanistan so talking about murder is hypocritical.

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@forgivemegod:

I admit that I am not precisely informed of the full complexity of the Ukrainian situation. I don't think you are either. Under these conditions I believe that it is not effective to continue a debate which could ignite. For my part, I will take care to complete my information in the direction you indicate.

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As long as nobody in the US or Russia is so idiotic to start launching nuclear weapons it won’t be world endingly bad. Still very sorry for the Ukrainians, though.

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#32  Edited By Eredin12

Vucic( Serbia president ) said that he never saw Putin more determined, that before they used to talk for more than hour about Ukraine while in their last conversation talk about it only lasted 3 minutes with Putin mentioning Kievan Rus, Lenin being father of Ukraine and how they are are ready to show what true de-communization of Ukraine really means, thinking ofc on what Communists gave to Ukraine.

This certainly looks interesting.

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#33 Lunacyde  Moderator

@olorun said:

@forgivemegod: ??? Are you done giving excuses for murder?? Russia starting a war when every country out there wanted peace and even wanted to talk to Putin is 100% on Putin.

Sir you have no idea what you are talking about, peace talks? really , if peace was what west wanted why was USA not giving insurance that they were not going to extend NATO further eastwards ? Why was the west pushing towards ”peace talks” on their and own terms and completely neglecting Russian interests and concerns? It is still not too late if west guarantees NATO will not expand war will stop immediately.

Sir I am not giving excuses for murder I condemn the war but there was no other way to stop NATO expansion diplomatic options were completely closed as west completely ignored Russian interests.

And sir you should not forget what the west did to Iraq Syria Afghanistan so talking about murder is hypocritical.

If the people of Ukraine wanted to join NATO it's not Russia's place to intervene in their sovereign affairs. Invasion of a sovereign country is not justified because you don't like their politics.

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I sure do hope india doesn't get invloved and Russians don't commit 10000000000 war crimes😃

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I feel bad for those innocent Ukrainian citizens

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Well, that sucks...

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#38  Edited By Eredin12

@lunacyde:

If the people of Ukraine wanted to join NATO it's not Russia's place to intervene in their sovereign affairs. Invasion of a sovereign country is not justified because you don't like their politics.

True but that is something NATO /US has done many times as well . Russia feels that it simply cannot allow NATO to get that close to them, which is why they are doing what they are, to prevent threat.

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#39  Edited By Antebellum

We are privileged of seeing a war, that's rare for a generation of snowflakes, that's awesome and it will be like a videogame or investing in cryptocurrency, we bet and see who wins.

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We are privileged of seeing a war, that's rare for a generation of snowflakes, that's awesome and it will be like a videogame or investing in cryptocurrency, we bet and see who wins.

The f*ck😭

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We are privileged of seeing a war, that's rare for a generation of snowflakes, that's awesome and it will be like a videogame or investing in cryptocurrency, we bet and see who wins.

You should probably go by bellum now.

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@lunacyde said:
@forgivemegod said:
@olorun said:

@forgivemegod: ??? Are you done giving excuses for murder?? Russia starting a war when every country out there wanted peace and even wanted to talk to Putin is 100% on Putin.

Sir you have no idea what you are talking about, peace talks? really , if peace was what west wanted why was USA not giving insurance that they were not going to extend NATO further eastwards ? Why was the west pushing towards ”peace talks” on their and own terms and completely neglecting Russian interests and concerns? It is still not too late if west guarantees NATO will not expand war will stop immediately.

Sir I am not giving excuses for murder I condemn the war but there was no other way to stop NATO expansion diplomatic options were completely closed as west completely ignored Russian interests.

And sir you should not forget what the west did to Iraq Syria Afghanistan so talking about murder is hypocritical.

If the people of Ukraine wanted to join NATO it's not Russia's place to intervene in their sovereign affairs. Invasion of a sovereign country is not justified because you don't like their politics.

People of Ukraine? Sir you are extremely misinformed , puppet government of Ukraine doesn’t represent people of Ukraine and sir which sovereign country are you talking about? Ukraine lost its sovereignty back in 2013 when the puppet government came into power.

Ukrainian people have their roots deeply connected to the Russians so it was impossible for the puppet government (west) to take over so do you know what they (puppet government) did they tried to culturally separate it from the great nation (by introducing a new language) but this plan came back bitting them in the ass (donbas). Western countries did the unforgivable they not only tried to take over Ukraine politically they also tried to hamper it culturally just for their hunger of power and false sense of justice and security.

Sir it is too easy for you to see the situation on you biased state media channels and then spread that misinformation on the internet ,in the hope of helping with the situation but you are actually worsening it .

This war was inevitable because NATO tried to push the great nation to a corner.

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#44 Lunacyde  Moderator

@forgivemegod:

1. The Ukraine is a constitutional republic, which means the people have a voice through their vote. If there was a government in place it is because the Ukranian people put them there. If the Ukranian people are voting for elected representatives who want to join NATO that is the will of the people.

Your argument is that Russia forcing their way in and invading is more representative of the peoples' wishes than an elected government?

2. Some polls showed as high as 69% approval among the Ukranian public for joining NATO in 2017.

3. I actually have friends in the Ukraine, and they are terrified. They don't want Russia coming into their country with tanks and bombs. If the people wanted Russia to come in they wouldn't need to fight. Again, Russia doesn't have the right to invade other countries because they don't like how they conduct their politics.

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The last update in Ukraine's military's perspective was that they'd already downed about 5 Russian aircrafts, as I heard late last night or in the very early morning ours of today, Thursday.

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@lunacyde: Again sir you are going off about the "will of people" it ended back in 2013 when the elected government was overthrown the current government is a western puppet .

And sir you are again and again saying "Ukrainian people want Ukraine to join NATO" this completely false, it is the delusion created by the west through the puppet government the ground reality is completely opposite.

Sir I find it funny how misinformed you are about the ground realities and you are talking about the wishes of Ukrainian people from the comfort of your home in the west.

Coming to your question no people of Ukraine only want peace but the same goes with the Russian people NATO reaching the Russian border will lead to more instability in the region than it is now , so the current Russian endeavours will ensure a long lasting peace in the region.

Sir those polls mean nothing the ground reality is something completely different from what the West is trying to portray.

Sir now you have friends in Ukraine if that's the case then my grandfather was a Ukrainian he migrated to Russia after the fall of the great empire but his brothers still live in Ukraine and what they tell is completely different from what your friends telling .

Again sir it is very hypocritical for you to say "Russia doesn't have the right to invade other countries" when the west did the same in Iraq Syria and Afghanistan in the name of peace here atleast the great nation has a legit reason to do so. Sir you only answer what would be the response of USA if Russia allied with Mexico and put their weapons right at the American border .

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#47  Edited By Paytience

@lunacyde: Ukraine isn't a constitutional republic, it's a unitarian republic, which immediately throws your analysis into question. Not that I disagree with your analysis, I actually for the most part agree...my first statement was just pointing something out for you.

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@forgivemegod: lol. So the russian people want peace, and to show that, they invade a sovereign nation? Interesting.

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@forgivemegod: What American weapons are in Ukraine right now? Go ahead...support your point.

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@paytience: Well sir in order to reach some conclusion you should actually read what has been written first properly "If Ukraine joins NATO American weapons will be deployed there .

Going to a war once for prolonged peace is better than going into small scuffles daily in the name of "false " peace.