well in context no other country has our military presence in Europe, Africa, South America and Asia.
That's right, we've put ourselves in the position where we have to spend insane amounts of money, just to keep up that position, and then you argue that we HAVE to spend that money because otherwise we cant keep that position. What?
How about we just concentrate on defending the US? I dont think Canada or Mexico is about to launch a ground invasion any time soon, no matter what Trump would have you believe about a few thousand immigrants on foot.
They dont call the President of the US the Leader of the Free World.
"The free world" isnt paying taxes and they're not paying for our military spending, which is contributing to our massive deficits. I thought Trump wanted Europe to pay for their own defense? Oh well... I guess just as much as he said that Mexico was going to pay for a wall... lol.
Our presence is pretty much everywhere cuz of WW2.
Yes, and we've had this notion that we're the world's policeman since then. We've also had a doctrine about having to be ready to fight TWO major ground wars at the same time... which is unrealistic and unnecessary. This is why we have ridiculous military spending, and few seem willing to actually look critically at the core assumptions behind these ideas that are bankrupting us.
The fact is Trump actually cut military spending by 150 billion cuz the articles didnt bring the number in context, I called you out on it with articles of fact and you cant accept the fact but want to rage at the number. The fact is that military spending has went up every year. Every thing has. Military spending isnt causing our debt. It has only doubled since GW Bush (who was a lousy President) and has remained constant in budget depending on the President. The fact is Republicans are always going to spend more money on the military. Obama stated around 700 billion and withdrew troops (which was fine) and cut defense spending by 100 billion dollars and the military called him out saying they dont have the equipment to do their jobs. Its like telling teachers to teach without books. Give them the money they need to do their basic job and they are fine. Its why Republicans are viewed more pro-military and Democrats more pro-teacher. The only difference is that we arent 50th ranked in the world in our Navy or Army. We have China building up the China sea and broadening their Navy. Russia too. Do you think we can actually stop any foreign offensive with crossbows and spears?
What? How exactly did Trump cut military spending by $150 billion???
We dont need more spending for the military to do their job, what we need is for their job to stop being the insane one of trying to be everywhere and do everything. So, yeah, of course they wont be able to do it properly, since it's a crazy and unrealistic expectation. I dont really want to military to be everywhere in the world trying to secure our addiction to oil, defend everyone in Europe, AND everyone in Asia, and everyone in every other damn place.
Exactly. Russia invaded Ukraine (a UN delegate) and we did nothing. Syria gassed their own country short of genocide and we did nothing. You dont have to spend for the military when you let stuff happen outside your borders. Its rather isolationist. Its one of the reasons Trump won...in context.
So you're claiming that Trump won because he's isolationist, so now we should spend more on the military to make sure we can... not... be isolationist?
I have no idea what you're arguing for.
Yeah, Russia invaded Ukraine. What exactly were we going to do about it? Are we going to deploy 300,000 troops over there and go to war with Russia? You really want the US to be the policeman of the world? Because, I'll tell you what, there's not enough money coming into the government in taxes to pay for that.
If the military is having problem with aging equipment or insufficient equipment or whatever, it's certainly NOT because we're not spending enough. We have thousands of tanks sitting around that the Pentagon didnt even want. We've wasted TRILLIONS of dollars on programs like the F-35, the Zumwalt-class destroyers, and the Navy's LCS. And we have hundreds of bases around the world, AND we keep getting involved in military operations everywhere, or funding tyrants like the Saudis who are murdering children in Yemen.
I think we're spending enough... more than enough. What we need is to scale back what the US is trying to do around the world and the military will be just fine. Every other nation in the world gets along fine without trying to dominate the entire world, and I'm sure we can do it too.
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