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@ozzy_manueldiaz: I get it, the guy was a bad dude, and won't be missed by any of us, but was it worth it to make him a martyr? Believe it or not there were some moderates in Iran, now a large number of them are rallying to his successor. I ask again how is that good for us, and how does that make us safer? They said that they will no longer abide to the Iran Nuclear Deal rules, so now we just created another North Korea essentially.

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#9853  Edited By AbstractRaze
@black3stpanth3r said:

@ozzy_manueldiaz: I get it, the guy was a bad dude, and won't be missed by any of us, but was it worth it to make him a martyr? Believe it or not there were some moderates in Iran, now a large number of them are rallying to his successor. I ask again how is that good for us, and how does that make us safer? They said that they will no longer abide to the Iran Nuclear Deal rules, so now we just created another North Korea essentially.

Get it into your head, it's not about if it was worth or not, American employees within the American embassy in Iraq were in danger, this man wanted to harm American personal in Iraq, and one must defend them, or you are indirectly trying to insinuate that it's worth sacrificing their lives so that Iranians don't get a martyr?, furthermore, it's hypocritical because you are focusing how they are going to feel than rather actually care for American employees safety, people which are heroically working hard and serving you and all the nation, that makes you a traitor, you're advocating for how they're gonna feel than rather how American families would feel once they lose their sons, fathers, mothers in an attack against the American embassy in Iraq.

Your people first, then your close allies, your allies, neutrals and lastly, your enemy, never forget that, but as I said, you don't have a patriotic sentiment for America, that's obvious.

You don't feel identified with America, rather you feel alienated from the country.

You say you care, but you don't, you tell people here that you don't want any of your family in the military to be deployed in Iraq, but what about those employes within the American embassy in Iraq and their families?

That attack was justified and truly reciprocal, you are just showing the people here, that you only care for your family, not for other American families, but the reality if it's true, because I still don't think that you have family in the military, is that if any of your family members went to the military, it's because they want to protect the nation and all families within, now that I debunked your true sentiment for America, you are desperately correcting yourself, but it's too late, we already know how you think in the very deep.

If Iran proceeds to continue its nuclear program, then it's time bomb the hell out of them, very simple.

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@black3stpanth3r: the moderates died in Iran. Solemali killed 1500 of his own people when they protested their own government oppressing them.

Gang of 8 briefing Tuesday, entire Congress on Wednesday.

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@just_sayin: I find it odd that Liz Warren is questioning the timing of the Solemali attack. She said something to the effect of why now. What made now the right time to attack him?

Uhm, how about our US Embassy being raided last week and a military contractor dying this month.

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#9856  Edited By AbstractRaze

@ozzy_manueldiaz said:

@black3stpanth3r: the moderates died in Iran. Solemali killed 1500 of his own people when they protested their own government oppressing them.

Gang of 8 briefing Tuesday, entire Congress on Wednesday.

Who cares about the moderates when they are a great minority, first of all, question yourself, who put those leaders in power, who put Qasem Soleimani in his position?

The people are the fundamental reason why the country has such retrograde leadership, they are the main reason why those people are in power, if there is maybe a minority opposing the regime, it's not really a great factor.

A true opposition searches for weapons from wherever they can, then they proceed to attack the oppressors and shot their faces till no one can recognize them and the reality about Iran, is that they have alot of submissive people, even though many of them are unlucky, they still advocate to the current leadership, because of their mentality and because of Islam, which is deeply enrooted to their political leadership, considering that Iran does not lead a secular governmental leadership at all.

Everyone is responsible for what happens in their house.

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@just_sayin: I find it odd that Liz Warren is questioning the timing of the Solemali attack. She said something to the effect of why now. What made now the right time to attack him?

Uhm, how about our US Embassy being raided last week and a military contractor dying this month.

Were people really going to think that Trump was wanting to take the focus off of the Democrat's impeachment ploy? Trump is the only one still talking about impeachment. Even die hard Democrats don't want to talk about that.

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#9859  Edited By LukaDoncicmvp

@edamame: If USA goes to war with Iran LIBERAL GLOBALISM disappears cause Russia + China + Iran + their allies > Liberal transgender soldiers & american soldiers who don't wanna be there.

No more feminist marches, no more gay parades, can't imagine a world without them.

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I really am not caught up with le news...

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@just_sayin: I don't think he will testify, but I would be very weary of Bolton testifying in the Senate. The DEMs have no reassurances what he will say in the Senate like they did in the House. It could just be ploy to give Bolton as a witness for the DEMs while the REP call Hunter Biden. I think Bolton does this...

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@ozzy_manueldiaz: Most likely the Senate dismisses the charges as biased and not substantiated by the evidence.

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Yikes. Iran strikes several Iraqi bases with US troops there. More waves of missiles being sent now. B52s being sent out.

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If your only knowledge of Qasem Solemani was what you read from the MSM's coverage, you'd think he was just some high ranking Iranian general and a noble war hero who Trump just randomly decided to incinerate because he loves war

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#9867  Edited By AbstractRaze

@edamame said:

If America does indeed go to war with Iran, I would imagine that there would be a relatively large number of Iranian refugees headed to the West. I wonder how people in the West would react to this. Also, will the rest of NATO be forced to attack? Lastly, how will Pakistan and Turkmenistan react to this?

We don't have to help them, anyway, Europe needs a wall too, so build that wall.

You know, here in Europe, we had monarchies and aristocrats which ruled and oppressed us in the name of God, during those days, our nations weren't secular, for example, the situation in France was terrible, french people were starving to death, they had nothing but to eat mud and shit, like a real shithole, infested by disease, misery and starvation, till the French Revolution happened in 1789.

Many historians tell, the day the French monarchs were beheaded at the guillotine, their heads rolled like perfect circumferences, it was a sweet and a very passionate moment of freedom.

The Islam world in the middle east could have done that too, but they still submit to their ruler class and princes, while here in Europe we already fixed that crap, not only western monarchs started to retreat but eastern monarchs too, such as the Tsar ruler class in Russia which were proudly killed in name of freedom.

No one helped us, we managed our own shit, we organized ourselves and cornered the ruler class in Europe, it started brutal but organized and passionate, that's why the Renaissance happened in Europe.

The same case can be said about Asia, without remorse, the people took back what belongs to them, that's how things work and not otherwise.

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We don't flee, we stay in the shithole, we are even prepared to eat rotten flesh and mud, and with our immeasurable wrath and intellect, we turn those shitholes into decent places to live.

When it has to come it comes and brutal, we will look for weapons, rifles, heavy ammo, no matter how, we will get them and destroy the oppressors at any cost.

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#9868  Edited By Paytience

@abstractraze: You know the French Revolution like...failed...horribly...right? As soon as leftist redicals took control the country became impoverished chaos. After the fall of bastille, France was anarchy until 1791 when the National Assembly passed a the constitution making France a limited monarchy-however France was in a state of constant civil war or counter revolution from the establishment of the first republic in 1792 until the Rise of Napoleon, and the eventual return to monarchy.

tldr: Leftism has been failing since it was literally invented.

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#9869  Edited By AbstractRaze

@paytience said:

@abstractraze: You know the French Revolution like...failed...horribly...right? As soon as leftist redicals took control the country became impoverished chaos. After the fall of bastille, France was anarchy until 1791 when the National Assembly passed a the constitution making France a limited monarchy-however France was in a state of constant civil war or counter revolution from the establishment of the first republic in 1792 until the Rise of Napoleon, and the eventual return to monarchy.

tldr: Leftism has been failing since it was literally invented.

What happened after does not matter, essential was to spread intimidation against the monarchs and aristocrats across Europe which were oppressing and exploiting Europeans, ofc it was not perfect, but it was the beginning in order to shape Europe in the right way.

That's why the monarchies began to retreat or get dissolved, if there was a left or a right background, does not matter, it's irrelevant, since that's not the objective, essential was to see those monarchs and aristocrats shiting their pants like never before, to change the public opinion across Europe, to sow that antagonism against the monarchs, no matter through which way.

One had to plan the right motives which fits the current public opinion and see people beheading that scum at the guillotine, once it happens, one can work better and perform changes, that's all.

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Does anyone see Trump during this as Rex Grossman from Tropic Thunder?

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#9872  Edited By AbstractRaze

@edamame said:

@abstractraze: Indeed, but I just wonder if the U.S. would be invading the whole country. I am just curious how Iran's neighbors (especially Pakistan and Turkmenistan) would react to that. Perhaps some Iranians would be happy to see regime change.

It's also very dangerous how Pakistan still has hundreds of nuclear weapons.

If you are going to talk from a warfare perspective, Iran is not truly invadable, well, it's very hard to invade because of the Zagros Mountains:

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The U.S will have hard time utilizing its technological edge due to Iran's topography, which means, their airforce is forced to fly closer to the threat.

The Zagros mountains offer a huge obstacle in order to mobilize terrain units and other heavy artillery.

It can be only bombed to death and progressively desolate the country to ashes.

Pakistan will do nothing, they don't have the infrastructure to use their nuclear weapons efficiently, furthermore, Pakistan is an ally of the U.S, Turkmenistan is a nonfactor.

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#9873  Edited By LukaDoncicmvp

@paytience: well said. They don't even know what they're talking about when speaking of european monarchies.

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#9874  Edited By AbstractRaze
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@paytience: well said. They don't even know what they're talking about european monarchies.

The thing is that he is trying to get a point, by saying that the revolution did not accomplish something solid by itself in the long run, something I never even proposed to have been the case, when in reality, it was a useful way how to sink in chaos an old fashioned oppressive way of a governmental structure, such as an autocracy, where the royal families and other aristocrats ruled the following region, and were meant to be the supreme ruler class, while the common people were literally slaves of the crown.

As time passed, we began to see constitutional monarchies till they either dissolved or became symbolic monarchies such as is the case in many countries, like in Spain or the United Kingdom.

For example, let us say you're a powerful man who is mainly conservative with some progressive inclinations, why not support a radical leftist movement, which you know, they won't accomplish anything solid, but bring down a governmental structure which is constantly limiting the potential of other people, which was the case with autocratic monarchies.

Sometimes where there is desolation, one can build something better and surpass the previous model, it's a matter of the situation, sometimes chaos can be your worst enemy or your best friend.

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With this I'm not saying that we have the same situation today, we have indeed a totally different situation, because capitalism, national sovereignty, traditional family values, patriotism, free/open market and democracy are and will remain as the optimal ways how to keep progressing for a while.

Leftists and modern-Liberals calling for socialism and total globalism are the enemies, especially globalism, which is very dangerous, because it will eventually give birth to technocrats and technocrats are more dangerous versions of the monarchs.

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#9875  Edited By LukaDoncicmvp

@abstractraze: Sorry to disappoint, but the european revolutiones HAD NOTHING to do with little man gaining freedom from oppressors, I'm including protestant reformation here as well, who saw the Catholic church as the oppressor.

To make it short: it's about oligarchs taking power from monarchies & ruling in their stead &... Jews.

For example after the red revolution(helped by British empire) was over the commies killed & raped the Royal family, communist state took over. Jews used the communist party to rule over Russian population. Simple as that.

Point is: all these revolutions are not failures cause they never planned on helping the small folk in the 1st place, that's propaganda to turn them against monarchy, Christianity & natural law.

Revolutions began in enlightenment period when Jews moved to Italy from Byzantine Empire & the Medici banking family started popularising Kaballah to the secret societies.

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#9876  Edited By AbstractRaze

@lukadoncicmvp said:

@abstractraze: Sorry to disappoint, but the european revolutiones HAD NOTHING to do with little man gaining freedom from oppressors, I'm including protestant reformation here as well, who saw the Catholic church as the oppressor.

To make it short: it's about oligarchs taking power from monarchies & ruling in their stead &... Jews.

For example after the red revolution(helped by British empire) was over the commies killed & raped the Royal family, communist state took over. Jews used the communist party to rule over Russian population. Simple as that.

Point is: all these revolutions are not failures cause they never planned on helping the small folk in the 1st place, that's propaganda to turn them against monarchy, Christianity & natural law.

Revolutions began in enlightenment period when Jews moved to Italy from Byzantine Empire & the Medici banking family started popularising Kaballah to the secret societies.

There were indeed some failures, such as the creation of the Soviet Union after the Tsar ruler class was murdered in Russia.

But the assassination of the Russian Tsars was right, one thing is that the Slavic people within the Russian territory weren't smart enough, rather, they lacked the IQ level to shape a prosperous governmental structure, they did not have the proper knowledge how to efficiently organize something after the Tsar rulership was assassinated in Russia, because those are the risks of chaos, of course, the Jews were mentally more capable because of their education in Western Europe, so they used it in their favor and they promoted the creation of the Soviet Union, those using Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels works as a basement and then the Jews proceeded to negotiate the introduction of communism in Russia.

In Western Europe, everything shaped way differently, after the French revolution ended, despite it fell, it brought progressive aspirations with it, such as the antagonization against the monarchs, people who used the religion in order to proclaim absolute control, because the separation of religion and state is a classical liberal concept (Secularism), open market is a classical liberal concept as well, so yes, it had a useful impact, because the revolution brought progressivism within, even though it carried a primitive sort of progressivism, the term was already there, because kings were killed for that.

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#9877  Edited By Rubear

@ozzy_manueldiaz said:
@black3stpanth3r said:

@just_sayin: Lindsay Graham has publicly stated that it was discussed with him some weeks back. Seems like Trump told the relevant people.

Is Lindsay the only Congressman? I don't believe a thing he say's anyway, he and this President have lied to our faces every day for the last 3 years.

Again, need link that he told Russia about the Sulamani strike cuz they were just as shocked as anyone. It was probably about legal air space. You repeating it doesn't make it true

Erm. I wasn't following this discussion, honestly. But... well, if anybody tell Russia about the Suleimani strike, Russia'd damn straight up tell Iran about it and warn Suleimani, considering that Iran is Russia's ally in Syria and that Suleimani was iranian general who oversaw iranian proxi's operations in Syria and Iraq.

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@abstractraze: Russians weren't smart enough, killing tsar family was right thing to do. Ur arguments are very unpleasant to read.

U do realize Russia is 2nd worldwide at mathematic olimpiad. Israel ain't even in da discussion.

Rasputin didn't fuck any noble women, it's all lies, he was simply the caretaker of the tsar's son. Attacks on him were to discredit tsarist family. Commies tried to dig up dirt on tsar after they raped his daughters, they couldn't find any dirt, he was a virtuous man from head to heels.

Preferring Lenin or Stalin or any other commie scum over him is reminiscent of Jews choosing Barabas over Jesus.

Nazis rejected Liberal capitalism yet their Mercedes was top notch. What nonsense to say Liberal capitalism & end of monarchies is what has brought technological progress, as if that's a virtue. Japan won't become backwards if emperor returns to power.

Problem with monarchy is that corporations & Ritschild's banks don't get bailed. & no wars in Middle East for the Jewish allies. That's a big no no.

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@just_sayin: @lord_tenebrous: @noone1996:

Hmm....so the only country firing missiles last night was Iran. A Ukrainian 747 crashes killing over 100 people and crashes near Tehran. And Iran is saying they dont know what happened??? Sure they dont. I dont want to jump to conclusions....

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@just_sayin: @lord_tenebrous: @noone1996:

Hmm....so the only country firing missiles last night was Iran. A Ukrainian 747 crashes killing over 100 people and crashes near Tehran. And Iran is saying they dont know what happened??? Sure they dont. I dont want to jump to conclusions....

I saw where Iran is not allowing Boeing access to the black box.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-crash-black-box/iran-will-not-give-black-box-from-crashed-ukrainian-airliner-to-boeing-mehr-idUSKBN1Z71C7

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@ozzy_manueldiaz said:

@just_sayin: @lord_tenebrous: @noone1996:

Hmm....so the only country firing missiles last night was Iran. A Ukrainian 747 crashes killing over 100 people and crashes near Tehran. And Iran is saying they dont know what happened??? Sure they dont. I dont want to jump to conclusions....

I saw where Iran is not allowing Boeing access to the black box.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-crash-black-box/iran-will-not-give-black-box-from-crashed-ukrainian-airliner-to-boeing-mehr-idUSKBN1Z71C7

Thing with Boeing is that it's an american corporation.
https://samchui.com/2020/01/08/boeing-737-crashes-after-takeoff-in-iran/#.XhYLCUczY2w
And as it mentioned (for example) here that plane had some technical problems during departure.

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@ozzy_manueldiaz:

Iran is a radical country run by terrorists, and are known to lie about everything. I wouldn't put it past them.

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You can always count on the left to support terrorists.

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@ozzy_manueldiaz: lol...Trump just basically prison bitched a nuclear country. Iran literally called and let us know ahead of time like "yo...we were planning at shooting these two bases here, but like, now we're gonna say it's in retaliation for Soleimani. But just heads up though, because we wouldn't wanna actually like...start some shit." So we moved our troops like...all good. Then, half the missiles missed or misfired.

Then, like an hour or two after launching those missiles, 2 earthquakes hit Iran's nuclear facilities. Like, Jesus is talking to you guys, homies.

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Comic vine trying to be political is funny to see.

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#9887  Edited By Noone1996

Inb4 leftists and the mainstream media blame Trump for Iran shooting that Ukrainian passenger airplane down.

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#9888  Edited By AbstractRaze

@lukadoncicmvp said:

@abstractraze: Russians weren't smart enough, killing tsar family was right thing to do. Ur arguments are very unpleasant to read.

Life is not always about pleasant things, I encourage you to not be that conceited/spoiled, you only want to hear and say flamboyant/meretricious or comfortable things and engage in a sensible manner, you won't make it far.

The killing of the French monarchs, the Tsar royal family in Russia, and many other monarchs in the Americas, was right, never said that it was pretty, but it was necessary in order to sow antagonism against the monarchs, to change the public opinion and send a message to them, that they are gonna end like them if they do not retreat, to make it clear that they are not untouchable people even among their own people, that things can turn very nasty.

Mathematics is an important field, but it's not everything, we have other fields that are way more important when it comes to social and political knowledge, like theology, methodology, sociology, anthropology, law, etc...

Russians did not make it far, and were taken for stupid by the Jews, because they lacked the proper knowledge, Jews had western European education at their disposal, I mean one can be a good mathematician, but that doesn't mean that this proficient mathematician will efficiently use it in combination with other fields, therefore this mathematician will eventually require the influence of other people which are proficient at other branches in order to shine.

That's why the Jews could negotiate and introduce communism into Russia.

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The reasons are irrelevant, no one really knows why Jews did that nasty thing to Russians, why they took the advantage over them and introduced that nasty ideology with the only mere purpose to see how an entire population gradually falls in perdition, inefficiency and misery, of course, there are some speculations why it could have been the case, some say, it was a social experiment, to see how a population would behave under certain socio-political circumstances, one of them, to be vertically ruled, indoctrinate people into thinking that all are equal, others say that it only had a purpose to create a front opposed to western standards and therefore create competition and boost western economic prosperity, etc... anyway socialism failed in western Europe due to a far superior education standard, that's why the Jews proceeded their plans in eastern Europe.

The French revolution arrived, fulfilled its purpose which was to kill the French Monarchs and change the public opinion, blabla, which was the only positive thing they did and then they naturally fell, unfortunately, this wasn't the same fate for eastern-Europe.

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Inb4 leftists and the mainstream media blame Trump for Iran shooting that Ukrainian passenger airplane down.

You haven't been watching/reading the news have you? i've already been seeing the blame thrown his way.

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@dernman said:
@noone1996 said:

Inb4 leftists and the mainstream media blame Trump for Iran shooting that Ukrainian passenger airplane down.

You haven't been watching/reading the news have you? i've already been seeing the blame thrown his way.

I saw where Democrats are blaming Trump for Iran shooting down its own plane. Trump must be to blame for everything, I heard Barrack was blaming Trump for his wife's lack of sexual satisfaction. Who knew?

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@noone1996: With the way things are going just assume if something bad happened the dems have already blamed Trump or it. I wish I could say that was 100% a joke. lol

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#9893  Edited By Dernman
@just_sayin said:

I heard Barrack was blaming Trump for his wife's lack of sexual satisfaction. Who knew?

I was going to make a joke something like I can understand him thinking that because when has a craving for some of that orange meat he can't compete............. but I kinda threw up. lol

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I see Iran's only female medal Olympian has defected per ESPN. Good for her. She said she wore what they told her to wear. She said what they told her to say. Does the MSM still believe that everyone that attended Solumeni's funeral actually wanted to be there?

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I'm surprised nobody said anything about what one of Bernie's staffer got caught saying. Some tweets deleted that praised that staffer and how Iowa staffers are now shutting down their social media.

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@dernman said:

I'm surprised nobody said anything about what one of Bernie's staffer got caught saying. Some tweets deleted that praised that staffer and how Iowa staffers are now shutting down their social media.

What?? Why would they do that?? I'm sure when people find out that they think Stalin gulags are good things and should be brought back and that schools should be used for educating children in socialism that it will bolster their poll numbers.

Ut-oh, MSNBC is reporting that Bernie is a sexist because he is continues to try and keep women from winning the Democrat Presidential nomination.

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@dernman: I heard Joe Rogan telling a story that just sums up just how crazy the left has become:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvJRZRzbrbI

A former woman at an all girl school who described herself as masculine queer decided that she was a man and decided to run for his school's diversity officer election. The other girls spoke out against his campaign and even tried to get people not to vote in the election. They accused him of now being a white man and part of the patriarchy. They said as a brand new white man he should not be elected to the diversity position because voting for a white man would be supporting the patriarchy. I kid you not. The left has lost all common sense. They should at least have some compassion for a white guy who menstruates.

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@just_sayin: I watched that Rogan video the other day. Smh shits crazy. honk

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Spartacus has fallen

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@black3stpanth3r: Hey muchacho! I don't think I've heard you say who you are supporting in the 2020 election yet.

I don't get CNN's attacks on Bernie Sanders for being sexist. It was so evidently bias in the debate, it was like they were questioning a Republican. Don't they know that Bernie is every bit as socialist and anti-black as any candidate on the Democratic debate stage? Like the others, he too is a millionaire/billionaire who wants to deny poor black kids from the inner city the choice of going to a quality private school like their kids did. He supports immigration policies that take an estimated $1,000 a year out of the pockets of the average black family each year (he even admitted it again in an NYT article this past week). He supports $15 an hour minimum wage laws which disproportionately cause young black men to lose their jobs, lose their benefits, and end up with lower incomes than if the minimum wage law hadn't been enacted. He supports Virginia Governor Ralph Northam's "anytime is a good time to kill a black baby - from conception through whatever it takes" abortion laws. Why are the media so against Bernie? He seems like the kind of candidate Democrats like.

Bernie supporters are saying that the timing of the impeachment trial is to hurt his chances in New Hampshire and Iowa. Makes as much sense as anything else that Pelosi has done.