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#8251 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: I won't change my mind and as I said in the past, we can't come to an agreement, because we're naturally destined to clash against each other in one of the bloodiest conflicts the world has ever seen, it will whether take place in the United States of America or in Europe, that's at least my true purpose in life. When it comes to my financial position, I don't lack anything, I have my wealth, but I feel like it doesn't matter, what matters if one has a wealthy life, but the country where you were born is changing and alienating itself from you and your values, your history, that's why I believe that my fate is whether to die for a change and eternally unite myself with my nations soil after the first drops of blood falls on the ground, or experience this change and see my children and their children growing safety.

I would encourage you to not be so fatalistic. I spent a lot of time over the years in Cuba - a place where people have been oppressed by socialism for almost 70 years. While those who disagree with socialism are not as vocal as government cronies due to political persecution, they have slowly won the debate among the people. No one, even government employees believe that socialism is the answer. They know that the only people who get rich in a socialistic society are high ranking government officials. The black market thrives with entrepreneurs in Cuba.

I work in DC, a place that voted 94% for Hillary Clinton. Be even in the mecca of liberalism, I see signs of hope where people have recognized that conservative ideas and principles are best. Parental choice is supported overwhelmingly by the residents there. The DC council voted to overturn the $15 minimum wage hike because it recognized the damage it would do to its poorest citizens. Even life-long government bureaucrats laugh when politicians talk about the government making anything from healthcare, to roads more efficient and cost effective.

In my suburb, 40% of the people are not native English speakers, with many having come from El Salvador. My observation is that we have been more of an influence on them. Now they don't always share my small government views, but in many issues they hold conservative values.

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#8252 Edited by AbstractRaze (3147 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin said:
@abstractraze said:

@black3stpanth3r: I won't change my mind and as I said in the past, we can't come to an agreement, because we're naturally destined to clash against each other in one of the bloodiest conflicts the world has ever seen, it will whether take place in the United States of America or in Europe, that's at least my true purpose in life. When it comes to my financial position, I don't lack anything, I have my wealth, but I feel like it doesn't matter, what matters if one has a wealthy life, but the country where you were born is changing and alienating itself from you and your values, your history, that's why I believe that my fate is whether to die for a change and eternally unite myself with my nations soil after the first drops of blood falls on the ground, or experience this change and see my children and their children growing safety.

I would encourage you to not be so fatalistic. I spent a lot of time over the years in Cuba - a place where people have been oppressed by socialism for almost 70 years. While those who disagree with socialism are not as vocal as government cronies due to political persecution, they have slowly won the debate among the people. No one, even government employees believe that socialism is the answer. They know that the only people who get rich in a socialistic society are high ranking government officials. The black market thrives with entrepreneurs in Cuba.

I work in DC, a place that voted 94% for Hillary Clinton. Be even in the mecca of liberalism, I see signs of hope where people have recognized that conservative ideas and principles are best. Parental choice is supported overwhelmingly by the residents there. The DC council voted to overturn the $15 minimum wage hike because it recognized the damage it would do to its poorest citizens. Even life-long government bureaucrats laugh when politicians talk about the government making anything from healthcare, to roads more efficient and cost effective.

In my suburb, 40% of the people are not native English speakers, with many having come from El Salvador. My observation is that we have been more of an influence on them. Now they don't always share my small government views, but in many issues they hold conservative values.

I'm not fatalistic at all, in some sense, from time to time, it can be considered as a natural cycle,

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Sociopolitical intellectuals in the conservative or liberal spectrum can be considered as some sort of a less efficient condoms/preservatives, but AIDS will get you soon or later, since there is still a 2% per-year pregnancy rate when using them, if you have bad luck and you pregnant a woman with AIDS, there could be a probability to get AIDS too, well, this a is cheesy example, but it's certainly sure that at some point, the intellectual defenses which act as a prevention in the politics, will someday fall, it's an inevitable fate, that's happening, and now, the real cure will come in play, which are the people and the Second Amendment, when this legit cure comes in play, we will witness a reset, a new beginning.

Classical liberalism isn't a bad thing, in fact, conservativism should coexist with liberalism, but as I said in the past, conservativism must be the leading force, so that liberalism doesn't become neo-liberalism, because classical-liberalism never had the intentions to dismiss conservativism but coexist, now, socialism is as terrible as neo-liberalism.

Being a none native English speaker is not the problem, there is time to learn the English language, it's the most basic and obvious thing to do, those showing true intentions of integration, respect toward the nation and the people which are giving a warming welcome to their country, but when you start witnessing that they're objectively excluding American people for the sole purpose to not engage in the English language, because they possibly don't consider Americans their equals, because they don't want to learn English, because they don't really care about American people, the founding fathers and their history, then you have a serious problem and probably very fatal for American fate, it represents a fulminant existential threat to the United States of America, counter cultures and parallel societies in the making, but a qualified immigration with education and manners, will never do such a thing.

There are a lot of Americans with Hispanic background which are in indignation, because their ancestors never did that, they integrated within the American society in the past, the first Hispanics did that, they never had a rebel attitude, they completely abandoned Spanish, especially the Mexicans which decided to stay in American soil after the American-Mexican war.

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Now, a Civil War in the US, won't take longer than 2 years, we're talking about the biggest army in the world against the federal government, the government could possibly surrender after 1 year and a half, the Second Amendment is the father of the biggest army in the world.

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

"Does the government fear us? Or do we fear the government? When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!"

In the case of Europe, a Civil War would take way longer, because in such a scenario, the European militaries are going to split apart, make some minor attacks and parallelly train civilians, it could take up to 6 and 8 years, considering there are reports that the French military is opposing Macron, while in Germany, many military leaders are candidating for the AfD, a right-wing party which is leading in East-Germany and possibly that Italy and Poland are going to oppose the European Union in the battle against the European Grassroots right-wing and play an intermediary role, those supplying the rebels with ammunition.

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#8253 Posted by decaf_wizard (17257 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

Epstein being dead isn't a good thing. Not only does he escape punishment (unless you believe in hell) but those he dealt with remain a secret.

The dude was on suicide watch. You have to wonder if this really was suicide like they say or something more.

No, just one more tally on the Clinton Body Count

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#8254 Edited by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

Are you regular? Do you crap on a daily basis? Then according to the left - your turds are to blame for climate change? God, you can't make this crazy crap up! President Extreme-Lefty Bolsonaro of Brazil responded, "It's enough to eat a little less. You talk about environmental pollution. It's enough to poop every other day. That will be better for the whole world."

You just know the Democrat party candidates are going to run with this craziness. Will it be Warren or Harris who first announces that she hasn't had a dump in a week? Will Biden announce that he hasn't had a bowel movement since Carter was president? When will Cory Booker announce plans for the new Turd Tabulation Department to help save the planet. Most of these candidates have already signed on to the 93 trillion dollar green new deal that plans to stick a cork in cow's asses to save the planet - now they are going to stick it up yours!

But I see this plan backfiring and Democrats coming out looking like hypocrites. Everybody knows that Democrats are full of sh*t and tracking their BMs will only prove it.

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#8255 Posted by willpayton (22174 posts) - - Show Bio

So the President of Lies is at it again, with another false narrative and conspiracy theory. I cant believe this is really what this country has gotten to. Every day is a new low.

But the sad part is not that we have a pathological liar, a racist, and a total moron as President, it's that some Americans are still making excuses and regurgitating the right-wing propaganda from this guy and his corrupt party. Trump can be voted our or impeached, but the lack of intelligence and morality from the right cant be fixed. The next election will be a shit show the likes of which we've never seen before.

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#8256 Edited by mimisalome (5723 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton:

What false narrative and conspiracy theory are you talking about?

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#8257 Edited by Dernman (26376 posts) - - Show Bio

Another day, another Trump derangement syndrome rant. Those blinders tho.

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#8258 Edited by AbstractRaze (3147 posts) - - Show Bio

Epstein's suicide whether murdered, whatever could have been the case, is a glorious win for the American people and the Right-Wing and a fantastic contribution to Western renaissance.

1. It's reducing trust and support for the elites.

2. Increases the moral authority of the public.

3. Right-wing more moral authority to secede.

4. Easier support to remove corrupt bankers.

5. "Conspiracy theory" slurs are becoming powerless. (The same situation with the racist and the nazi slurs which are weakening)

6. Bigger audience for uncomfortable truths.

7. Easier for a new renaissance to come.

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#8259 Posted by Thekillerklok (10199 posts) - - Show Bio

@abstractraze: You can count me full tinhat on this matter...

here another fun conspiracy theory I came across that you might enjoy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cnbq6o/an_overview_of_epstein_and_his_connections_posts/

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#8260 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: Amigo. I got to ask - with the Democrat Party Candidates going more and more super crazy - what keeps you in the party? I know you say you think it's fine to kill unborn or newborn black babies and that you support abortion through - well as long as it takes to kill the black baby, but I just don't think your heart is in it. And I know you say you agree with keeping poor black children chained to failed Democrat controlled government schools where they have less than a 8 percent chance of going to and graduating college, instead of going to a voucher school which increases their odds of graduating college significantly, but I just don't see that passion to oppress black children like I see in other liberals eyes from you. And I know that say you agree with Democrat dogma and you claim its OK to discriminate against white people and Asians in everything from jobs to college admissions. But I just get the feeling that you wish you didn't have to be racist to them. Sorry for outing you buddy, but I just call em like I see em. And I know that you say you hate Chic-fil-a's Christian values, but I bet you secretly pick-up a waffle fry and shake every now and then, when your liberal friends aren't watching. So, what are the big issues for you? Why do you remain in a party that doesn't reflect your views and values?

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#8261 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: I was going to ask you why Democrats hate poor people so much. Now, I'm not talking about how Democrats policies are costing poor young black men an average of $1,000 a year in lost wages due to their support of open borders which depress wages, Or how Democrats have devastated parts of Appalachia with their war on coal miners. I'm talking about what has happened with Democrats pushing $15 minimum wage laws.

Did you know that just since the law went into effect NYC has

1. already lost 4,000 jobs.

2. Roughly 77 percent of NYC restaurants have slashed employee hours.

3. Thirty-six percent of restaurants said they had to layoff employees

4. and 90 percent of restaurants had to increase prices following the minimum wage hike.

With the loss of jobs, loss of hours, loss of benefits, and increase in cost of goods - the poorest workers in NYC are now officially, on average, worse off than they were before the minimum wage law went into effect. It is now harder to get ahead as the minimum wage law has gotten rid of some of the rungs on the ladder to success for the poorest and least skilled workers.

Do you agree with the Democrat's policies that make poor people poorer? Personally, I just don't think we should make poor people poorer. I think it would have been better to focus on growing the economy so that business owners are more successful and could create new jobs, give more benefits, and increase pay. But if Democrats claim, as all the Democrat party candidates do, that $15 an hour minimum wage laws that make poor people poorer are what we need - who am I to argue with them.

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#8262 Edited by Dernman (26376 posts) - - Show Bio

The Epstein conspiracies are NOT a far right thing. People from both sides have been pushing it their own way. You have to be seriously blind to think it's only one side.

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#8263 Posted by FaradaySloth (11905 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

The Epstein conspiracies are NOT a far right thing. People from both sides have been pushing it their own way. You have to be seriously blind to think it's only one side.

#TrumpsBodyCount was trending on twitter for a while IIRC. Which makes no logical sense how people can actually believe that.

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#8264 Edited by Dernman (26376 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

The Epstein conspiracies are NOT a far right thing. People from both sides have been pushing it their own way. You have to be seriously blind to think it's only one side.

#TrumpsBodyCount was trending on twitter for a while IIRC. Which makes no logical sense how people can actually believe that.

Yeah right after twitter took down ClintonBodyCount which started out as a joke from the left

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#8265 Edited by AbstractRaze (3147 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

The Epstein conspiracies are NOT a far right thing. People from both sides have been pushing it their own way. You have to be seriously blind to think it's only one side.

That's what John Mark has been saying during the video, that's the only point where the Right and the Left agree, but the American Right-wing is the only one who truly profits from it, because the right-wing is the only side, who has the guns in order to push for a fight against the elites and the federal government.

All the vast majority of American weapons manufacturers, sides for the Grassroots Right-Wing, more than a huge bunch of the American military sides for the Grassroots right-wing, so, if there is a need to hang the elites and change many aspects of the system, it will perfectly be the case, like providing immunity to the first and the second amendments, change the banking system, etc...

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#8266 Posted by Chad_Duby (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

The reason Jesus sits at the RIGTH Hand of God speaks something. Glory to the lord who symbolically points out the track for us to follow.

Leftists can go cry in hell with the Devil, lol.

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#8267 Posted by CyborgZod (958 posts) - - Show Bio

Welcome to the Trump recession, brought to you by Trumps trade wars and total incompetence. Also, get ready for Trump to blame everyone but himself and his supporters to blindly accept whatever lies he feeds them. Mmmm, tasty lies, the staple food of the republican party.

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#8268 Edited by AbstractRaze (3147 posts) - - Show Bio

Hong Kong must prevail and never submit and completely mix-up with China, never, in Hong Kong, is where the legit Chinese lives, the proud ones, with high standards, with dignity and intelligence, not the slave one rather the wealthy one, as long Hong Kong prevails, it will always inspire the Chinese in China to abandon Communism, the same as happened in the Soviet Union, destroying the enemy from the inside through propaganda and smuggling information from the free world.

Backing Hong Kong is not only about geographical interests for the West, but it's also about defending the last dignifull traditional Chinese on earth.

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#8269 Posted by Magus_ (54 posts) - - Show Bio

@cyborgzod: If this is a recession then give me six more years. This is actually called a stock correction but if you believe everyone is going to die then I can see your vantage point

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#8270 Posted by boschePG (6325 posts) - - Show Bio

So the President of Lies is at it again, with another false narrative and conspiracy theory. I cant believe this is really what this country has gotten to. Every day is a new low.

But the sad part is not that we have a pathological liar, a racist, and a total moron as President, it's that some Americans are still making excuses and regurgitating the right-wing propaganda from this guy and his corrupt party. Trump can be voted our or impeached, but the lack of intelligence and morality from the right cant be fixed. The next election will be a shit show the likes of which we've never seen before.

The MSM gives the same false narrative in proportion. Its like this week when many Democrats told the Supreme Court to 'heal' cuz they don't agree with their narrative of law. And before you bring up its cuz of Kavanaugh or Gorsuch, they have voted apolitically where Kavanaugh has even sided to protect Planned Parenthood. The Supreme Court is doing their job. If Congress has a problem with their decisions, then change the laws but don't threaten a branch of government because they do not follow the collective

The left is insane. They don't believe in free speech to all. They believe it only to the media which pumps their propaganda narrative. This week alone

Protest in front of McConnell's house where they are chanting, stab the mofo through the heart and when McConnell's camp posts video of the threatening actions, his account gets shut down for showing the truth (suppression of speech? Inciting violence)

MSNBC actually has a guy that said people in the Hamptons should stand in front of the CEOs house, who through Trump a fundraiser in NY, to stand outside his houses with pitch forks and torches (that sure does sound like inciting violence)

CNN anchor actually said that Trump said all Latinos should be eradicated and everyone on the panel agreed Trump said it, but the host had to tweet Trump didn't say eradication.

If the right is turning a blind eye what is the left doing, cuz it isn't resistance

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#8271 Posted by Dernman (26376 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschepg: You here about the Chris Coumo thing? Threatening to throw someone down stairs and claiming Fred is a slur on par with the N word yet he himself and others from CNN have used it. Of course CNN defends him

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#8272 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

Welcome to the Trump recession, brought to you by Trumps trade wars and total incompetence. Also, get ready for Trump to blame everyone but himself and his supporters to blindly accept whatever lies he feeds them. Mmmm, tasty lies, the staple food of the republican party.

Trump's tariffs are bad. I can agree with that. However, the global economic issues have more to do with the downturn. China has other issues besides the tariffs. Countries like Germany have had a downturn as well.

I think you make a good point that Trump does not assume blame for bad decisions. Most politicians don't. How many Democrats have you heard admit that the $15 minimum wage was a bad idea, even though there is evidence that it failed in NYC, Seattle, San Francisco, and DC? How many Democrats have admitted that they were wrong to keep poor black kids chained to failed Democrat controlled government schools, or that the biggest issues in urban areas are not systemic racism but the absence of the black father? You don't hear that. That's why we should strive for small government - the less politicians control - the less we have to worry about them denying their failures.

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#8273 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

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@boschepg: You here about the Chris Coumo thing? Threatening to throw someone down stairs and claiming Fred is a slur on par with the N word yet he himself and others from CNN have used it. Of course CNN defends him

Did you see that if you ask Siri when Chris Cuomo's birthday - it will reply by calling him Fredo Cuomo? Gotta laugh at that.

Cuomo overreacted and should be called out for it. At the same time, people should leave these media figures alone when they are with their families. If we start accosting people just because of their political beliefs then we are no better than leftists like Maxine Waters and Joy Behar.

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#8274 Posted by Dernman (26376 posts) - - Show Bio
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@boschepg: You here about the Chris Coumo thing? Threatening to throw someone down stairs and claiming Fred is a slur on par with the N word yet he himself and others from CNN have used it. Of course CNN defends him

Did you see that if you ask Siri when Chris Cuomo's birthday - it will reply by calling him Fredo Cuomo? Gotta laugh at that.

Cuomo overreacted and should be called out for it. At the same time, people should leave these media figures alone when they are with their families. If we start accosting people just because of their political beliefs then we are no better than leftists like Maxine Waters and Joy Behar.

Yeah I didn't have the whole story at the time of posting and am more forgiving of what he said though not of trying to make Fredo a slur. Still not a good day for CNN as Don Lemon as he's being sued for sexual harassment.

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#8275 Edited by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin:

@cyborgzod said:

Welcome to the Trump recession, brought to you by Trumps trade wars and total incompetence. Also, get ready for Trump to blame everyone but himself and his supporters to blindly accept whatever lies he feeds them. Mmmm, tasty lies, the staple food of the republican party.

Trump's tariffs are bad. I can agree with that. However, the global economic issues have more to do with the downturn. China has other issues besides the tariffs. Countries like Germany have had a downturn as well.

I think you make a good point that Trump does not assume blame for bad decisions. Most politicians don't. How many Democrats have you heard admit that the $15 minimum wage was a bad idea, even though there is evidence that it failed in NYC, Seattle, San Francisco, and DC? How many Democrats have admitted that they were wrong to keep poor black kids chained to failed Democrat controlled government schools, or that the biggest issues in urban areas are not systemic racism but the absence of the black father? You don't hear that. That's why we should strive for small government - the less politicians control - the less we have to worry about them denying their failures.

Unfortunately all of this falls on Tramps head, he is the one that overheated the stock market with the tax cuts, trade wars, destroying of trade deals etc. I've been telling you that for the longest. Since we are the largest economy in the world we have the most impact and can cause a domino affect towards a global economic meltdown. Tramp doesn't understand the difference between business and economics, people that voted for him were saying .. but .. but.. he's a business man, I was like "so....? " yeah he's a business man that bankrupted everything he has touched.

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#8276 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin: On top of that he wants to curtail legal immigration, even though we are making billions of dollars on legal immigration.

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#8277 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin: These companies are greedy like no other, Amazon is able to pay their employees 15$ an hour, and they are still hiring, these other companies should take note.

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#8278 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin: We know what caused the previous recessions, and what did Tramp do when he got into office? The same exact thing that caused the previous recessions.

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#8279 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin:

Job growth is slowing

To help smooth out any one months result it is worthwhile to look at 3, 6 and 12-month trailing numbers. You can see the slowdown in the number of jobs being added when you look at these averages.

  • 12 months per month average of 187,000 equals 2.25 million per year (and the third month in a row it has been under 200,000 per month)
  • 6 months per month average of 141,000 equals 1.69 million per year (and had been running at 172,000 per month last month)
  • 3 months per month average of 140,000 equals 1.68 million per year (and had been running at 171,000 per month last month)

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#8280 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin:

Yearly GDP growth has fallen since mid-2018

Taking a look at how the economy is performing from the prior year’s quarter gives a better read on the economy as using this statistic smooth’s out the volatility of any one quarter’s result.

When looking at the year-over-year comparisons, in last year’s June quarter GDP growth was 3.2% and has fallen to 2.3%. Since Trump has been in office the year-to-year comparisons have ranged from 2.1% to 3.2%, and have only been above 3% for the June and September 2018 quarters (3.2% and 3.1%, respectively) when the tax cuts were probably having their largest impact.

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#8281 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin:

Over 30 months Obama added almost 1 million more jobs than Trump

Trump entered office on January 20, 2017, and starting with February 2017 he has been President for 30 months. Total job growth during that time has been 5.736 million or 191,000 per month with those results being helped by the tax cut.

Working back from January 2017, Obama’s last month in office, there had been 6.611 million jobs added or 220,000 per month. The difference for the 30 months is 875,000 more jobs or almost 30,000 more per month than Trump.

Note that back in January this year the total difference was only 194,000, which means over the past six months it has increased by 681,000. And looking at the next five months with Obama’s job numbers of 221,000 to 327,000 per month, the gap should only increase and cross 1 million.

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#8282 Edited by CyborgZod (958 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin: "bad decisions"?? I thought you Trump supporters kept saying how he's a great businessman? What happened to Trumps promise to get rid of the debt? The debt is massively bigger now. What happened to the promises of 5 and 6% growth? Promises of bringing back the coal industry? What happened to his claims that the economy is in great shape? What happened to his claims that China is paying the tariffs? Why did he just back down on some tariffs if it's such a great win for us? Why is he bailing out the farmers?

Nothing but lies from Trump from day one, and you're here from that same time repeating the lies.

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#8283 Posted by Dernman (26376 posts) - - Show Bio

Another shooting at ICE offices. ICE Blaming left politicians, media and activists for rhetoric.

Mixed reports on if anyone got hurt but shots landed inches away from where they work.

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#8284 Edited by mrmonster (16765 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve King (you know, that loon who believe "white nationalism' and "white supremacy" shouldn't be offensive terms), just made what could be his most insane statements yet.

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Yes, let's all thank rape and incest, apparently without them we wouldn't exist.

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#8285 Posted by Chad_Duby (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

@cyborgzod: Trade war? You think our economy is so small that only an issue with shitty electronic company from China is gonna affect us? No, it will not and even if it may happen, the Us still stands, because God will never leave his people behind and will destroy communism.

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#8286 Edited by AbstractRaze (3147 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby said:

@cyborgzod: Trade war? You think our economy is so small that only an issue with shitty electronic company from China is gonna affect us? No, it will not and even if it may happen, the Us still stands, because God will never leave his people behind and will destroy communism.

The thing is that many people with double moral standards and selfishness are completely fine and some of them are proud to purchase technology which is manufactured by modern slaves in China, that hypocrisy comes from the Neo-Liberals and coward/weak people unable to assume uncomfortable truths.

Now, one thing is that the Left is capitalizing on something inevitable, with the final purpose to oppose conservativism and classical liberalism, the ones to blame are the elites which closed so many factories in America with the final purpose to open new factories in China because of easy profit, they also support illegal immigration and unqualified immigration for the same reason, 'replicate China's cheap labor in the West as much as possible', they also oppose family values in the West, in order to successfully demand foreign cheap labor and political support.

Neo-Liberals are one of the greatest domestic threats in the World which attempts against human rights, they are more dangerous than Terrorists and both Leftism and Neo-Liberalism are the absolute oblivion.

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Now if there is an afterlife, if God truly exists and considering you are a religious person, if you allow Neo-Liberalism and Leftism to succeed, you will see how your upcoming generations are going to be exploited, enslaved, tortured and you won't be able to do anything than just see how the kids from your kids suffer for all the eternity, you will cry blood in the afterlife and there won't be anyone in order to calm your suffer, if God truly exists, he won't calm you, because that will be your punishment for not doing anything when you was alife.

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#8287 Posted by mimisalome (5723 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are the leftist-socialists so concern about the stock market all of a sudden?

Shouldn't they see this thing as a something good

since they believe Capitalism is evil?

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#8288 Posted by Chad_Duby (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

@abstractraze: The issue coming from the collaboration Leftists and elitists nowadays are secretly and openly working with each other on for some purpose by funding NPCs, making them activists, and implementing anti-white and lots of globalist policies certainly aren’t harmful for white when but everybody. I see the suffering of people that is undeniably happening in China, a communist country without “classes” and that is horrible. The Eu, NATO and a big lists of face-valuably trustworthy global organizations have one goal, and they are working together on it, which is to establish the One world order where everyone is mixed, having low IQ and willing to obey whatever the media says. Marxism is modern slavery so the Far Right is our friend.

Sure, I will not let that happen without taking action as a Christian and the follower of God. Our ancestors, though having had conflict with each other which led to genocide in the after maths, were still working with each other in order to achieve one mission, to preserve what was ours and basic principles, to not let these atrocities happen.

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#8289 Posted by Chad_Duby (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

@mimisalome: Because Leftists(people with lower IQ and braincells than average individuals), better known as NPCs, don’t really have stance for their struggle nor do they care about the atrocity of capitalism but are against Nationalism and everything that is valuable for our society.

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#8290 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin:

@just_sayin said:
@cyborgzod said:

Welcome to the Trump recession, brought to you by Trumps trade wars and total incompetence. Also, get ready for Trump to blame everyone but himself and his supporters to blindly accept whatever lies he feeds them. Mmmm, tasty lies, the staple food of the republican party.

Trump's tariffs are bad. I can agree with that. However, the global economic issues have more to do with the downturn. China has other issues besides the tariffs. Countries like Germany have had a downturn as well.

I think you make a good point that Trump does not assume blame for bad decisions. Most politicians don't. How many Democrats have you heard admit that the $15 minimum wage was a bad idea, even though there is evidence that it failed in NYC, Seattle, San Francisco, and DC? How many Democrats have admitted that they were wrong to keep poor black kids chained to failed Democrat controlled government schools, or that the biggest issues in urban areas are not systemic racism but the absence of the black father? You don't hear that. That's why we should strive for small government - the less politicians control - the less we have to worry about them denying their failures.

Unfortunately all of this falls on Tramps head, he is the one that overheated the stock market with the tax cuts, trade wars, destroying of trade deals etc. I've been telling you that for the longest. Since we are the largest economy in the world we have the most impact and can cause a domino affect towards a global economic meltdown. Tramp doesn't understand the difference between business and economics, people that voted for him were saying .. but .. but.. he's a business man, I was like "so....? " yeah he's a business man that bankrupted everything he has touched.

Overheated the Stock market???!!! Are you serious??!!! You are just mad that the world's largest pot store lost a billion dollars. Anyway, trade wars are bad. Got to agree with you on that. It's like $15 minimum pay wage bills that disproportionately put black men out of work. Bureaucrats claim that it will sock it to the man, but what ends up happening is a lot of people lose their jobs and the cost of everything goes up. Trump governed like a Democrat on tariffs - and that is never a good thing.

You sound like you are happy that the economy might not be doing good. Me, I hope the economy does well. Recessions hurt poor black men the worst in the US. And unlike Democrats, I want the black man to get ahead. During the Obama recession, black family income decreased by $900 a year. That was tough. On top of that, Obama's own gold ribbon panel noted that Obama's policies on lax immigration laws cost the black man an additional $1,000 a year in reduced wages, coupled with Obamacare which raised insurance rates by an average of $1,000 more a year, and you can see that the black man had a target on his back during the Obama Administration. Further adding to the hardship of the black man are $15 an hour minimum wage laws which disproportionately negatively impact low-skilled black men causing them to lose their jobs and reduce their working hours, along with Green New Deal laws which increase the cost of gas and electricity stealing what little cash the black man has left to feed his family. Fortunately, Trump's policies, like reducing job killing regulations, have helped black families, with poor black family disproportionately benefiting. The average low-income black man's wages are up 14% since Trump took office. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have someone put $1,000 a year more in pocket, than take $3,000 a year more out of my pocket like Democrat policies did to the black man.

So, I hope the economy continues to do well - though I'm not so sure that Democrats do.

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#8291 Posted by boschePG (6325 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: @just_sayin:

This may sound as a surprise, but what Cuomo did I thought was perfectly fine. I find that today's society lacks respect. I think it really started with messageboards and it morphed into social media. They flame people cuz they cant see them face to face. The guy knew that wasn't Cuomo's name and then he calls him Fredo in front of his family trying to eat???Nah, the dude deserved the chew out. Its like when people harassed Kirstin Nielson and Huckabee Sanders.

I don't believe its a racial slur. It means dummy. I don't believe it even rises to what Cuomo said it was. It doesn't even rise to Kunta Kinte level. It cant be a slur, when Cuomo himself, and many on CNN use the term. And to be correct, the right doesn't actually call him Fredo. Its inferred due to the right calling him the dumber younger brother. What the right actually calls him is Cuckmo.

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#8292 Posted by boschePG (6325 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: bruh, your three facts about slowing jobs growth, lowering GDP, and Obama added jobs have no context and are baseless

  • slowing job market - job growth is slowing, cuz we have more jobs than people. thus, the job created don't have to pump up new jobs when they have trouble filling in the jobs open now.
  • lowering GDP - this deserves a facepalm. its been said we payout close to 1 billion dollars a day for taking care of illegal immigration with housing, food, and care. That is why the GDP is lowering cuz the domestic product has to get funneled to taking carfe of people that pay us nothing.
  • Obama job creation was high - you mean after the recession when unemployment was above 8%? Dude, there were so many people that lost jobs that the of course that number is going to be high. They started from zero. Its like the question which President nominated the most justices. Its going to be Washington since there were no justices to begin with. Its a lot harder to lose weight after the first 30 pounds. That's is what this is
  • Any recession will fall on Trump but it isn't cuz of Trump. The Asia market was always in question when he got in. That is why I know MSM narrative is false. The yield is jacked. The WH has been telling the Fed they are going to jack this economy. It has. That's a fact. The things is, any recession isn't going to happen after this indicator until 22 months after the indicator, even if this happens due to Trumps corporate tax cut. If you really think the world will end in 12 years, then I guess assuming that a crash will come tomorrow will happen- it isn't, but that's fine.

@cyborgzod:China tariffs and the recent panic is because the Asia market and German dollar are tanking along with long yields. It is why it was always said that the US would win any tariff trade war. Case in point, the Asia market. The more you post the more I think you know nothing of money but are just angry.

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#8293 Edited by AbstractRaze (3147 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby said:

@mimisalome: Because Leftists(people with lower IQ and braincells than average individuals), better known as NPCs, don’t really have stance for their struggle nor do they care about the atrocity of capitalism but are against Nationalism and everything that is valuable for our society.

Let us go back in time for a little bit, do you remember the well known Industrial Revolution in Europe during the 1760?

It was almost like China, but better, people still had higher wages, besides there was freedom of expression, etc... but still, it was one of the darkest times of capitalism, European people were exploited horribly and the rat of Karl Marx exploited such an event in order to expand his socialist ideologies, but it got regulated at the end, most Europeans rejected socialism too, despite they experienced the worst side of capitalism.

Capitalism which respects human dignity, is a good capitalism. (Conservativism & Classic Liberalism)

Capitalism which violates human dignity, is barbaric, inhumane. (Neo-Liberalism & Leftism)

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#8294 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin: On top of that he wants to curtail legal immigration, even though we are making billions of dollars on legal immigration.

You bring up a point - but not the one you intended. Illegal immigration is hurting legal immigrants waiting in line to get into the country. It is unfair, that limits must be placed on legal immigrants because 100,000 illegal immigrants are crossing the borders every month. Thank you, for showing us, yet another victim of illegal immigration.

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#8295 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin: These companies are greedy like no other, Amazon is able to pay their employees 15$ an hour, and they are still hiring, these other companies should take note.

4000 jobs have been lost in NYC just since the $15 an hour minimum wage law went into effect. Restaurants have a small profit margin - compared to Amazon. Maybe Democrats should take note that not all companies are like Amazon before implementing policies that put people out of work.

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#8296 Edited by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r said:

@just_sayin:

Yearly GDP growth has fallen since mid-2018

Taking a look at how the economy is performing from the prior year’s quarter gives a better read on the economy as using this statistic smooth’s out the volatility of any one quarter’s result.

When looking at the year-over-year comparisons, in last year’s June quarter GDP growth was 3.2% and has fallen to 2.3%. Since Trump has been in office the year-to-year comparisons have ranged from 2.1% to 3.2%, and have only been above 3% for the June and September 2018 quarters (3.2% and 3.1%, respectively) when the tax cuts were probably having their largest impact.

The economy's growth has slowed. That's true. But it is still better than what Obama said it would ever be again - remember he said that the "new normal" was 2% GDP. Thank you Trump for fighting for an economy that has been far above Obama normal.

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#8297 Edited by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r said:

@just_sayin:

Over 30 months Obama added almost 1 million more jobs than Trump

Trump entered office on January 20, 2017, and starting with February 2017 he has been President for 30 months. Total job growth during that time has been 5.736 million or 191,000 per month with those results being helped by the tax cut.

Working back from January 2017, Obama’s last month in office, there had been 6.611 million jobs added or 220,000 per month. The difference for the 30 months is 875,000 more jobs or almost 30,000 more per month than Trump.

Note that back in January this year the total difference was only 194,000, which means over the past six months it has increased by 681,000. And looking at the next five months with Obama’s job numbers of 221,000 to 327,000 per month, the gap should only increase and cross 1 million.

Just who do you think you are fooling? Obama had negative job growth in his first 30 months. Here are the numbers from the BLS: (numbers in thousands)

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Trump has helped bring unemployment to record lows. Some economists claimed 5% unemployment was full employment and we shouldn't expect more. But Trump delivered the lowest unemployment for Americans. He delivered the lowest unemployment for black and Hispanic Americans - something that Democrat policies did not do.

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#8298 Posted by Chad_Duby (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

@abstractraze: I wouldn’t call “capitalism” or “system under capitalists” beneficial to people but rather another wicked system. What is beneficial is nationalism, the ideology to praise your own people and to understand them as if you and they are the same person, making the society fair, full of love, almost free from oppression and family-like. All classes have to be abolished and people need to cooperate.

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#8299 Posted by boschePG (6325 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin: Did you see Janet Yellen, Fed chair under Obama, in an interview even said there isn't going to be a recession just based off of negative yield. Its just overblown hysteria that the MSM has to create in order to help their cause. No wonder they think the world will end in twelve years

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#8300 Posted by just_sayin (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschepg said:

@just_sayin: Did you see Janet Yellen, Fed chair under Obama, in an interview even said there isn't going to be a recession just based off of negative yield. Its just overblown hysteria that the MSM has to create in order to help their cause. No wonder they think the world will end in twelve years

Now there are some global issues out there that will effect the economy. But it wouldn't be the first time the press has fabricated a story for its benefit *cough* Trump colluded with the Russians *cough*, *cough* Trump said White Nationalists were good people too *cough*, *cough* Trump to blame for racial shootings *cough*, *cough* Trump called Mexicans rapists *cough*