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#8152 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@thekillerklok: Guns that are issued to soldiers or law enforcement officials for purposes to wage a defensive or offensive war.

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#8153 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@thekillerklok: I think this is a pretty good definition too:

Definition of assault rifle. : any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic fire also : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire.

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#8154 Posted by Dernman (26458 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone just told me that the official name of the Berlin wall translates to Antifascist Defense Barrier.

I find that relevant to many things I see going on today.

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#8155 Posted by Dernman (26458 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8156 Posted by Lord_Tenebrous (2619 posts) - - Show Bio

Left is demonstrating once again just how disgustingly intolerant and divisive they are:

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/soulcycle-equinox-face-boycott-calls-after-owner-s-trump-fundraiser-n1040181

https://www.dailywire.com/news/50366/equinox-gym-soul-cycle-faces-boycotts-response-ceo-paul-bois

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/equinox-and-soulcycle-members-boycotting-gyms-over-trump/vi-AAFukKd

The leftist fitness company Equinox is being boycotted by the left because their chief donor is a Trump supporter. And they claim that the president is trying to divide the country...

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#8157 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_tenebrous:

The leftist fitness company Equinox is being boycotted by the left because their chief donor is a Trump supporter. And they claim that the president is trying to divide the country...

That's because he is trying to divide the country, it's time he realizes that words have consequences, as we have seen this past weekend. Thanks to him millions of Americans are not feeling safe, millions of Americans are feeling disrespected, and millions of Americans don't feel wanted because of the things he said, of course in the minds of his apologists nothing is ever his fault, go figure. Maybe if he stopped with the hateful vitriol there wouldn't be any boycotts. Boycotts and protest are the fundamental rights of Americans and we are exercising that right, I don't like any of those brands anyway, and I am not a Miami Dolphins fan, so I wouldn't support any of those entities any way.

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#8158 Edited by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_tenebrous: It's kind of funny how Tramp is trying to paint liberals as socialists when he is engaged in socialism this very minute with the farmers. I call that socialized farming, and our nations farmers are hurting from it. He started this stupid trade war and now our farmers lost a major customer for our soybeans and other agricultural products because of it, and now he wants to write them a check that won't even make up for the amount of money they are losing. This is socialism at it's worse and Tramp is engaging in it, this is what I call socialized farming.

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#8159 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_tenebrous: Does he even understand that the Tariffs are actually a tax on American consumers? We are the ones that are going to bear the brunt of these tariffs, he put a tariff on everything coming from China except for Ivanka's clothing line. His one saving grace is a good economy that he once again inherited from the previous administration, the economy isn't going to stay good forever if he keeps making these stupid decisions. Once the economy tanks what's going to be left in the white house except a mad Tyrant that insults and divides his own people?

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#8160 Posted by destinyman75 (15928 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: Nah Trump only understands his own packets and those of his rich buddies big pharma, wall street etc..

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#8161 Posted by destinyman75 (15928 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996: Actually he's said so grouping them all together many times over but eh

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#8162 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: Hey man, how are you doing, I'm so sorry about the tragedy that befell the state of Texas

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#8163 Posted by Noone1996 (13051 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: Do you honestly think he means that everyone that crosses the border is a rapist or criminal gang banger? Anybody that believes that is a bit delusional. He's clearly referring to a select few and I'm pretty sure he's even said that there are a lot of people that come across that he would be happy to take in, but that he just needs them to come in LEGALLY.

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#8165 Posted by just_sayin (3886 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: Hey mi amigo! Did you hear Sleepy Joe Biden's latest quote:

"Poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids."

I think we all know what Sleepy Joe really thinks about the black community. I was also amazed that Sleepy Joe tripled down on his lie that Donald Trump said that White Nationalists were good people. Creeper Joe got called out on his lie and blew up. So many Democrats seem to selectively edit out this line from Donald Trump from that very same statement:

?'? ??? ??????? ????? ??? ???-????? & ??? ????? ????????????, ??????? ???? ?????? ?? ????????? ???????

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#8166 Posted by just_sayin (3886 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: Wow! Even a CNN "news" guy said that Truth-deficient Joe was lying about Trump calling white nationalists good people.

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1121893828552609792

That's on the heels of factcheck.org saying that Biden lied about a false racist charge Biden made about Trump and immigrants:

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/biden-takes-trump-quote-out-of-context/

Hey, efe, did you see Sleepy Joe's quote of the day:

"We choose truth over facts."

God, you gotta feel sorry for Slow Joe.

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#8167 Posted by Lord_Tenebrous (2619 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin:

You can tell they don't like Biden, if this was anyone else they'd be defending them tooth and nail.

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#8168 Edited by just_sayin (3886 posts) - - Show Bio

@just_sayin:

You can tell they don't like Biden, if this was anyone else they'd be defending them tooth and nail.

Biden is a treasure trove of "what the hell did he say" comments. Take this racist quote from Sleepy Joe on why some schools perform better than others:

"There's less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than 4 or 5% that are minorities. What is in [D.C.]? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with."

If Creeper Joe gets the nomination, the left will stand behind him, no matter how stupid he sounds.

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#8169 Posted by destinyman75 (15928 posts) - - Show Bio
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@noone1996: That ia exactly what he Implies with his own words. If he didn't feel that way he should then speak correctly, he seems to have a real hard time with that for some reason.......

And if it were actually that he wanted those Legally then there would be much less deporting not of those who actually did come legal now wouldn't there..Yeah that's right here in Texas even those who came legally get offed by ICE with inpunity ..

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#8171 Posted by destinyman75 (15928 posts) - - Show Bio

Tulsi Gabbard is the furture the people have spoken despite black out and smears she has gained so much ground even Trump supporters are considering her ....

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#8172 Posted by Magus_ (54 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: well...she even interviewed for a Cabinet position with Trump . She probably gets smeared on that fact alone. Once you combine that with her Kamala smack down at the last debate, she pretty is a Hawaiian version of Joe Manchin, lol

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#8173 Posted by AlphaQ (6754 posts) - - Show Bio

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All these people calling Trump a white supremacist don't get that there is a core distinction between right ring civic nationalists, which Trump is, and ethnic nationalists. If you go and research what the alt-right has to say about Trump you'll quickly realize that they consider him a civic nationalist, with at "best" the kind of latent, unconscious recognition of identity that most people have, but by no means is he representative of their ideology. Richard Spencer went on CNN and bashed Trump recently and he's the most influential alt-right figurehead of them all.

Problem is that the white supremacists who say anything negative about Trump go along the lines of "he's not going far enough". They dont attack him for rejecting their cause, just for not being forceful enough in what they believe he stands for.

Look at David Duke, who has multiple times said how Trump is helping his cause and endorses Trump, along with his friends in the KKK. Trump had his chance to denounce Duke and his endorsement, but instead he lied and said he had no idea who David Duke was.

The problem for the Republican Party is not just that Trump is a racist, it's that they are increasingly only the party of whites in this country. Look at the House of Representatives. How many black Republican members are there in the House? The answer is: right now there is exactly 1, and he just announced that he's leaving Congress. In the Senate, how many black members are there? Again, 1. And it's not just that they're pretty much all white, it's also that the Republican Party continues to try to pass laws that disinfranchise minorities and gerrymander districts for this same purpose. So they are not just the white party, they are also the party of racists. This is why the KKK supports them.

Sorry about not responding, I'll get back to you when I have the time, which should be sometime next week. I'm basically planning on finding white supremacists and alt-right influencers acknowledging that Trump isn't a white supremacist.

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#8174 Posted by Lord_Tenebrous (2619 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8175 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_tenebrous: I don't endorse harassment of everyone, a boycott isn't a harassment, like for example I boycotted Papa Johns Pizza when he admitted to using the "N - word" , a boycott is actually the opposite of harassment.

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@destinyman75 said:

Tulsi Gabbard is the furture the people have spoken despite black out and smears she has gained so much ground even Trump supporters are considering her ....

Don't get ahead of yourself because you like her. She's still a huge underdog.

  • Win or lose who would you like to see her on a ticket with?
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@black3stpanth3r said:

@lord_tenebrous: I don't endorse harassment of everyone, a boycott isn't a harassment, like for example I boycotted Papa Johns Pizza when he admitted to using the "N - word" , a boycott is actually the opposite of harassment.

I think he's talking about Joaquin Castro who put the names/addresses out of those who donated to Trump recently.

If I remember correctly they've been getting death threats and have had to take situational awareness classes to protect themselves.

Edit: I could be wrong about what he's talking about. I didn't read the whole conversation.

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#8178 Posted by destinyman75 (15928 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: I know but that's been her whole thing being the underdog went from 0 to 2 % now up to near 20 despite the black out against her so I'd say she has a fair chance given the people actually don't care for the other Dems and she was the star feat n the two debates thus far and most searched...She's got a shot slim as it may be she's the one who COULD pull it off. Yes still up hill battle Though..

On her ticket I'd like to see Tulsi/Yang myself

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#8179 Posted by destinyman75 (15928 posts) - - Show Bio
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@destinyman75: lol well true but she's better then all those others anyway, she also would have the best chance of beating Trump but those alt left folks aren't the brightest in this regard

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#8181 Posted by Lord_Tenebrous (2619 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8182 Edited by Dernman (26458 posts) - - Show Bio

"Poor kids are just as bright as white kids?"

Haven't watched the video yet but if Biden really said that......... it was a stupid thing to say.

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#8183 Posted by SC (18222 posts) - - Show Bio

I am very critical of Trump (obvious to anyone who reads my political views), but I think its really dumb how some media are criticising his expression in a photo. Yeah he is smiling with a baby, what, is he supposed to put on a big angry face and give a thumbs down gesture? Yes a tragedy happened, yes people died, yes you are posing in a photo with relatives of those directly impacted personally, its just an expression. If he wasn't smiling, similar media would accuse him of awkwardly being serious with a baby, if it was Obama smiling, the same media would frame it as "Obama lifting the spirits of a community, after tragedy" or "Obama helps a family smile after they lose loved ones" I mean, in other photos, doctors (or emergency staff) and relatives of people who died/injured are smiling as well - are they all heartless monsters too? Or do people just smile cause sometimes thats what peoples instinct is, when photoed? The relatives (or some of them at least) of the victims/baby also like Trump, and how they feel about the matter is way more important than random people.

There's a lot to criticise Trump over, but this is dumb.

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#8184 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman:

@dernman:That information is already public anyway, I don't think anyone from the Trump would have given him that information, people that Trump attacks over and over again have gotten death threats and pipe bombs mailed to their house like from that guy Sayoc or whatever. I think there should be more transparency over who the donors are anyway, we wouldn't want foreign entities with a nefarious agenda to shape the course of our domestic campaigns. Many of those businesses are profiting off the backs of the Latino community that this President constantly demonizes.

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@black3stpanth3r: There is a difference between having knowledge being public and highlighting it like a beacon/call to every crazy that will harass and send death threats. Especially in how the climate is now where it isn't just stopped at words but actions.

Edit: If Trump had done this people would be saying that he was trying to get people killed by White Nationalists.

Edit2: What's worse is he got a few of them wrong. One person didn't even donate to Trump and now he's being harassed. One donator to Trump actually also donated to Casto.

There is a thin line with these types of actions. One that is easy to cross and not realize it. Though personally I think he does realize it. I believe he just doesn't care. Much like most politicians they just care about power and damn those who get in their way. That's why both sides don't care their rhetoric is tearing this country apart.

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#8186 Posted by Razcaz (23 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: BTW, Magus and this account is BoschePG

I think you are trying to make the actions of what Joaquin Castro did innocent due to he did not have intent, and say but this person gets this and this person on the left gets that. Trump has never did that. He has never inferred action on others. Like his interview on MSNBC stated, these donors will get harassed and they are not in the public eye. That is the difference. Trump cant sue anyone for defamation cuz he is a public figure, yet the revelation of simpler means to access this information puts American lives at stake - in which MSNBC pretty much state regardless of the intent, they will be harassed due to inferring that they to are responsible for the El Paso shooting.

It isn't Trump that is causing people to stand outside of Mitch McConnells home and scream, stab the mofo in the heart

It isn't Trump that stated on air that people should stand outside Equinox CEO home with pitchforks and torches

It was Maxine Waters that stated to get into these peoples faces and make them uncomfortable

It was Loretta Lynch that said that we have to resist until there is blood in the streets

It is said many times on the media that the political temperature has to cool down, but it is actually the media that is stoking more of the flames

This is what the media is causing with their propaganda. They don't care about age. They don't care about color. They don't care about sex. The media has instilled that MAGA people should be targeted and it happens over and over again

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#8187 Posted by Dernman (26458 posts) - - Show Bio

@razcaz: Why the alts? It just confuses things.

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#8188 Posted by Lil_Remains (1767 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol the bitch is dead.

Rest in piss Epstein. Hopefully Trump, Bush and Obama follow soon.

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#8189 Edited by Razcaz (23 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: RPG characters for the RPG forums. This way whoever you are talking to knows what character is talking to them. I either got so disenfranchised with the political climate that when I do visit it its hard to follow due to the many replies in a single thread, lol

Edited- you think the donor that donated to both parties is still going to support Castro for outing him to the crazed mob? Its deplorables 2.0

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#8190 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: Edit2: What's worse is he got a few of them wrong. One person didn't even donate to Trump and now he's being harassed. One donator to Trump actually also donated to Casto.

Yeah I agree with you here, it's terrible that he made a mistake like that, and I feel sorry for those people that are being harassed, but at least these people still have their lives, many people have lost their lives in the past week and we need to be cognizant that our words do matter.

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#8191 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol the bitch is dead.

Rest in piss Epstein. Hopefully Trump, Bush and Obama follow soon.

Very nice of you.

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#8192 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@razcaz:

It isn't Trump that is causing people to stand outside of Mitch McConnells home and scream, stab the mofo in the heart

It isn't Trump that stated on air that people should stand outside Equinox CEO home with pitchforks and torches

It was Maxine Waters that stated to get into these peoples faces and make them uncomfortable

It was Loretta Lynch that said that we have to resist until there is blood in the streets

When did this stuff start happening? Oh that's right when Trump got into office, I mean Trump isn't the first Republican in office, how come this kind of stuff didn't happen with other Republicans? Could it be that it is because of the stuff that he has said and done? Are you named after the rapper Razcaz?

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#8193 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@razcaz: Yeah I don't condone harassment or getting in peoples face, but that pales in comparison to being massacred in cold blood because of the color of your skin.

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#8194 Edited by Dernman (26458 posts) - - Show Bio

@razcaz said:

@dernman:

Edited- you think the donor that donated to both parties is still going to support Castro for outing him to the crazed mob? Its deplorables 2.0

I don't know. I think he made a statement but I don't remember what it was. I just know I'd feel betrayed if I was in his shoes and I wouldn't support him again.

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#8195 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@razcaz: Maybe it's a response to how this man began his campaign, maybe a few people were highlighted and harassed, but he put a target on the backs of millions of Americans and has emboldened white supremacists to commit these heinous acts, let's not lose sight of that.

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#8196 Posted by Razcaz (23 posts) - - Show Bio

@black3stpanth3r: What if I am the rapper, lol. Its just a combined wording in urban dictionary of a character I created.

To your other statement, simple majority is fairly new since Harry Reid dropped the 60 votes to 51, making everything strictly partisan. The fact that the media has become partisan instead of impartial has made the daily news of we are all going to die ingrained to mass anarchy.

BTW, is Will Payton still on these boards?

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@black3stpanth3r said:

@razcaz: Yeah I don't condone harassment or getting in peoples face, but that pales in comparison to being massacred in cold blood because of the color of your skin.

and what happens if it escalated beyond words to people start getting massacred in cold blood because of who you voted/donated too because it feels like we're headed there.

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#8198 Edited by Dernman (26458 posts) - - Show Bio

@razcaz: BTW, is Will Payton still on these boards?

He was around just a couple days ago throwing personal insults at people here.

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#8199 Edited by Dernman (26458 posts) - - Show Bio

Epstein being dead isn't a good thing. Not only does he escape punishment (unless you believe in hell) but those he dealt with remain a secret.

The dude was on suicide watch. You have to wonder if this really was suicide like they say or something more.

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#8200 Posted by BLACK3STPANTH3R (6495 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman:

@dernman said:
@black3stpanth3r said:

@razcaz: Yeah I don't condone harassment or getting in peoples face, but that pales in comparison to being massacred in cold blood because of the color of your skin.

and what happens if it escalated beyond words to people start getting massacred in cold blood because of who you voted/donated too because it feels like we're headed there.

Yeah I would hope that it wouldn't go there, but I think people should really think twice about enabling a political campaign that is spewing hate.

@dernman said:

Epstein being dead isn't a good thing. Not only does he escape punishment (unless you believe in hell) but those he dealt with remain a secret.

The dude was on suicide watch. You have to wonder if this really was suicide like they say or something more.

^Yeah I agree with this here, he tried to commit suicide a few days ago, it's kind of weird that they wouldn't have had him in a special suicide prevention cell or had 24 hour surveillance on him in his cell.