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-Racob has spoken

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#3 Posted by Cream_God (15519 posts) - - Show Bio

FINALLY!!!!

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#4 Posted by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

Yip yip yip.

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#5 Posted by Pperspectiveandreality (2096 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh boy.

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#6 Posted by deactivated-5a162dd41dd64 (8662 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this how American politics actually work?

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#8 Posted by MakkyD (6989 posts) - - Show Bio

This should probably be renamed to American politics thread as it'll probably be overtook by only two ideologies...

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#10 Edited by AssertingValor (8137 posts) - - Show Bio

Omg

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#11 Posted by i_like_swords (26030 posts) - - Show Bio

> Off-topic board

> Is discussing politics

*takes cover*

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#12 Posted by Mr_Clockwork91 (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

Poli=many

tics=blood suckers

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#13 Posted by deactivated-5a162dd41dd64 (8662 posts) - - Show Bio

@racob7: Wow. I'm super happy I don't have a stake in them, then.

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5a162dd41dd64 (8662 posts) - - Show Bio

@racob7: But it's the fate of (presumably) your country at stake in these elections, how do you find them amusing?

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#17 Posted by Farkam (11966 posts) - - Show Bio

@squares: Somethings are just so bad you just have to sit back and laugh at how bad they are.

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#18 Edited by deactivated-59d945143d79a (5227 posts) - - Show Bio

As a proud member of the Yip Yip party I find this thread highly offensive.

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#19 Posted by Racob7 (9584 posts) - - Show Bio

@squares: If I took it seriously it'd drive me crazy.

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#20 Posted by Jphu8414 (4044 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually enjoy having nice, calm, and civil talks with people about politics. People usually say they find it awkward talking to people in real life about politics, but I have never had that problem. You just always have to remember that people have different opinions on stuff.

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#21 Posted by deactivated-5a162dd41dd64 (8662 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by Eisenfauste (17366 posts) - - Show Bio

Canadian politics ftw!

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#23 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

Such a bad idea

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#24 Edited by daredevil21134 (15924 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks for watching i'm Al Sharpton Hardball starts right now. Welcome to comic vine let's play Hardball

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#25 Posted by deactivated-097092725 (10555 posts) - - Show Bio

There's a provincial election coming up in a few days. Thinking of spoiling my ballot.

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#26 Posted by Noone301994 (22169 posts) - - Show Bio

Libertarian.

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#27 Posted by CainPanell (23760 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Posted by Noone301994 (22169 posts) - - Show Bio

@_cain_: What do you mean by that?

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#29 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

Can we turn this in to THE politics thread please? So people can keep there discussions all in one place instead of 12 different threads on what type of fake tan Donald Trump uses?

Ok so, what do people think of the Universal Basic Income?

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#30 Edited by SC (17763 posts) - - Show Bio

There have been a lot of threads lately that seem like the type that pop up on /pol/ on 4chan, except this is CV, and not 4chan, our rules aren't as flexible, so lets bump this thread and some other threads may be locked and you may be directed here. Enjoy!

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#31 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman for president.

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#32 Posted by Warlockmage (8457 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman for president.

No Superman for President

Batman for supreme dictator and ruler of all!

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#33 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11526 posts) - - Show Bio

@beast_mode999 You do realize 2 million jobs >>>>>>> 200,000 jobs, right? It's basic math. Also, around 2009, the Obama administration actually tweaked the definition of what having healthcare actually means, greatly skewing the numbers in his favor to bolster the appearance of the act. Lastly, those "millions" of healthcare plans gained by Obamacare include ALL health care plans, not just those from the Affordable Care Act. It doesn't take into consideration those who were already going to gain insurance, those who gained insurance due to their employment, those who were going to get one as a result of adulthood, those who were forced to get one because of ACA, etc. They're very vague numbers pushed by Democrats to bolster how "good" it actually is.

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#34 Posted by cpt_nice (9796 posts) - - Show Bio

@sc said:

There have been a lot of threads lately that seem like the type that pop up on /pol/ on 4chan, except this is CV, and not 4chan, our rules aren't as flexible, so lets bump this thread and some other threads may be locked and you may be directed here. Enjoy!

THANKS

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#35 Posted by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

@beast_mode999 You do realize 2 million jobs >>>>>>> 200,000 jobs, right? It's basic math. Also, around 2009, the Obama administration actually tweaked the definition of what having healthcare actually means, greatly skewing the numbers in his favor to bolster the appearance of the act. Lastly, those "millions" of healthcare plans gained by Obamacare include ALL health care plans, not just those from the Affordable Care Act. It doesn't take into consideration those who were already going to gain insurance, those who gained insurance due to their employment, those who were going to get one as a result of adulthood, those who were forced to get one because of ACA, etc. They're very vague numbers pushed by Democrats to bolster how "good" it actually is.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/8/editorial-obamas-unemployment-rate-lies-exposed-by/

President Obama massages numbers to make him look good all the time.

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#36 Posted by Beast_mode999 (2588 posts) - - Show Bio

@petey_is_spidey:

False 2 million jobs lost working hours... That doesn't mean 2 million jobs were destroyed.

What did they tweak the definition to mean then?

And those millions of millions of healthcare benefits gained by Obama care... Was the official number of people directly affected by Obama care

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#37 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11526 posts) - - Show Bio

@beast_mode999:

False 2 million jobs lost working hours... That doesn't mean 2 million jobs were destroyed.

WAT? It's the same thing! People are still losing income, and money is still being lost in the economy! That's why it's THE EQUIVALENT of 2 million people being laid off. Also, some of those 2 million job hours loss were ACTUAL layoffs. The fact is that it's been killing people's income.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2015/05/14/how-many-people-has-obamacare-really-insured/#e93cf59777f0

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@petey_is_spidey:

Lol no it's not. WOW. Please define what fewer working hours are please... On top of that please provide evidence for these 2 million lost working hours.

And I want you to give me the number of "actual layoffs" of those 2 million jobs.

On top of that during this prsesidency the 15 million other jobs were created.

15 million>>>> 2 million... Simple math

If you are talking about the CBO

There exact words were people would DECIDE not to work not "loose their jobs".

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#39 Edited by Cream_God (15519 posts) - - Show Bio

So this is the vines version of /pol/ huh? Kek i better start posting hentai Trump propoganda i suppose

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#41 Posted by TheDandyMan (5175 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like to see Gary Johnson at least participate in the presidential debates, I think a lot of people would be interested in what he has to say. He's reached 13 % in the polls fairly recently so 2 more points and he'll be be on the stage.

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#42 Posted by Beast_mode999 (2588 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89: hope you realize that last paragraph in your link was backed up by no statistics at all. On top of all that longertem unemployment dropped 600,000 during this presidency as well... Sooo

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#43 Edited by Petey_is_Spidey (11526 posts) - - Show Bio
@beast_mode999 said:

@petey_is_spidey:

Lol no it's not. WOW. Please define what fewer working hours are please... On top of that please provide evidence for these 2 million lost working hours.

And I want you to give me the number of "actual layoffs" of those 2 million jobs.

On top of that during this prsesidency the 15 million other jobs were created.

15 million>>>> 2 million... Simple math

If you are talking about the CBO

There exact words were people would DECIDE not to work not "loose their jobs".

I'm not talking about Obama's total presidency, so bringing up how many jobs he created is totally irrelevant, but okay. Nice try though.

The nonpartisan CBO estimates that the decline will come primarily due to workers responding to changes made by the law to federal programs and tax policy. The agency points to the introduction of health care subsidies tied to income as a key factor -- which in turn raises effective tax rates as someone’s earnings rise, therefore reducing the amount of work Americans choose to do.

“Subsidies decline as income increases, reducing the return on earning additional income,” the report says. “That decline is effectively an increase in recipients’ effective marginal tax rate, so it generally reduces their work incentives through the substitution effect.”

Yes, a lot of people are choosing to work less, but that's because they HAVE to or need to. Obamacare is increasing their taxes while decreasing the amount of money they take home after taxes.

Instead of increasing their work hours to offset this, people are just deciding not to work at all.

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Coming to save us all 2016
Coming to save us all 2016

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Someone needs to build a wall around this thread.

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