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#1 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19715 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19715 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro Choice for me

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#3 Posted by turoksonofstone (14912 posts) - - Show Bio

A.

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#4 Posted by mikethekiller (9676 posts) - - Show Bio

Part me says pro choice but another part of me says pro life 

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#5 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
@Slight said:
Pro Choice for me
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#6 Posted by Wise Son (1796 posts) - - Show Bio
Far be it from me to tell (by tell I mean make) a women what to do with her body but I see no problem with early termination of a pregnancy. Especially if there is no welfare to support the child, a functional family to sustain it,  a stable financial situation or a stable environment. I'm not going to condone a child being thrown into the world, not by choice, and it ends up suffering because mommy got knocked at 15. She kept it, being selfish or felt like she had some illusion responsibility that made her feel like she needed to go through it.  I really don't approve if it's going to have a negative impact on all involved. Potential health complications for mom for one.
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#7 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (5417 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro-choice, within reason.

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#8 Posted by PrinceIMC (5506 posts) - - Show Bio

It shouldn't be used as a form of birth control. Meaning that the woman doesn't use any kind of protection because she can always just get an abortion later. But sometimes accidents happen.

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#9 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8362 posts) - - Show Bio
@mikethekiller said:
Part me says pro choice but another part of me says pro life 
I feel the same!!
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#10 Posted by ironshadow (1583 posts) - - Show Bio

Undecided but overpopulation beign what it is I'm leaning towards pro choice, sure abortion if baby/fetus killing but what's a little fetus killing among all this other crap in the world and besides it's the woman that will live with the choice she has made.

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5bf70359d2dd1 (16596 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro Choice

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#12 Posted by MKF30 (11750 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro Life

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#13 Posted by Wise Son (1796 posts) - - Show Bio
I want to hear from some pro lifers.
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#14 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19715 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son said:
I want to hear from some pro lifers.
Not that kind of thread
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#15 Posted by Wise Son (1796 posts) - - Show Bio
@Slight said: 
@Wise Son said:
I want to hear from some pro lifers.
Not that kind of thread
No ill intent but point taken. 
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#16 Posted by TheDrifter (24811 posts) - - Show Bio

Really? 
 
Last thread we had on this did NOT go well. 

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#17 Posted by Mercy_ (94916 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro choice all the way. 

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#18 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19715 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheDrifter: That is why I did not ask for opinions and have already told someone who asked for them that this was not that kind of thread.  
However, I know people, and I know that this can get heated..  
@Wise Son: Thanks XD
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#19 Posted by Chaos Burn (1898 posts) - - Show Bio

abortions should safe legal and rare

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#20 Posted by Katrin_Romanoff_004 (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

Abortion is cruel to the child. Think about it: if a cell is alive, and the baby starts as, what, two cells, then isn't the baby alive?

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#21 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (19685 posts) - - Show Bio

Abortion is cruel to the child. Think about it: if a cell is alive, and the baby starts as, what, two cells, then isn't the baby alive?

In the window when abortion is legal. There is no child.

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#22 Posted by kasino (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro Choice..men want abortions too(no one EVER brings it up)

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#23 Posted by DoomDoomDoom (4403 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro-Choice.

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#24 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (19685 posts) - - Show Bio

@kasino said:

Pro Choice..men want abortions too(no one EVER brings it up)

It is not a man who has an abortion.

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#25 Posted by _Black (2301 posts) - - Show Bio

Imo abortion should be allowed when there is just a clump of cells present or the like, anything resembling a fetus should not be allowed to be aborted.

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#27 Posted by Nefarious (35649 posts) - - Show Bio

It is complicated.

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#28 Posted by kasino (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrdecepticonleader: you serious?

ok, no they don't but once a child is their they are a father. yes woman do have birth or abort but without the man there is none of that.

lets just say you moved in with a gal splitting things 50/50. a puppy runs into your home, isn't keeping it a 50/50 decision?

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#29 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (19685 posts) - - Show Bio

@kasino said:

@mrdecepticonleader: you serious?

ok, no they don't but once a child is their they are a father. yes woman do have birth or abort but without the man there is none of that.

lets just say you moved in with a gal splitting things 50/50. a puppy runs into your home, isn't keeping it a 50/50 decision?

Yes I am. Deadly.

Its a woman's body not a man's. The couple can discuss it and how they want to go about having a child. But at the end of the day its a woman's choice and responsibly to have that child or not. Just as it should be the man's decision to choose weather they want to be a father or not.

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#30 Edited by jointron33 (2107 posts) - - Show Bio

Abortion is murder, plain and simple. For the ones saying that it's the woman's body, if she didn't want the bastard to be the father of her child, why did she drop her panties for him?

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#31 Posted by GodTriggerHulk (2084 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro-Life

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#32 Posted by Pyrogram (46545 posts) - - Show Bio

Abortion is murder, plain and simple. For the ones saying that it's the woman's body, if she didn't want the bastard to be the father of her child, why did she drop her panties for him?

You ever heard of rape?

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#33 Posted by the_stegman (40228 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro Choice.

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#34 Posted by russellmania77 (17601 posts) - - Show Bio

kill em all!!!

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#35 Edited by thatguywithheadphones (19859 posts) - - Show Bio

The actually procedure and act disgust me, but I respects a woman's right to choose, because I doubt it's a just a simple decision.

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#36 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (19685 posts) - - Show Bio

Abortion is murder, plain and simple. For the ones saying that it's the woman's body, if she didn't want the bastard to be the father of her child, why did she drop her panties for him?

How is it murder?

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#38 Edited by jointron33 (2107 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram: why wud u hurt the poor baby for it though?

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#39 Edited by Pyrogram (46545 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: I'm not dignifying that with a proper response.

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#40 Posted by Joewell911 (14729 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't support it unless the woman was raped or was under 18 and will die

If they can't support it they can put it up for adoption ( And I know its not that simple, not trying to make it sound that way )

Other than that, they should have not had ( unprotected ) sex.

Imho

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#41 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (19685 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell said:

I don't support it unless the woman was raped or was under 18 and will die

If they can't support it they can put it up for adoption ( And I know its not that simple, not trying to make it sound that way )

Other than that, they should have not had ( unprotected ) sex.

Imho

Sometimes people get pregnant when even having protected sex.

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#42 Posted by Joewell911 (14729 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, it should be apart of the man's choice to if he cares.

I mean the wife shouldn't be able to kill the mans child if he wants to keep it. But it is the woman's body, so I'm kinda conflicted

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#43 Posted by Strigidae_23 (6388 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro choice.

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#44 Edited by willpayton (22083 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro choice until the later stages where the baby is mostly formed. From that point only if it's necessary for the health of the mother.

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#45 Posted by Joewell911 (14729 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Posted by PartialSanity (460 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be a wonderful world if life were as black and white as some people make it out to be. The sad reality is that things in life are vastly complex, and it is not up to anyone who isn't familiar with a certain situation to pass judgement or even begin to form an opinion on it.

In a world where abortion can be the most selfish act imaginable and in other cases the most responsible thing a person can do, it shouldn't be this easy to sit at your desk, with the warm glow of your monitor illuminating your face, and type out "abortion is this" or "abortion is that."

Activists always use the word "murder" as an instrument of fear, and people always fall for it. Abortion isn't murder. In some cases it is extremely unfair, as it eliminates a certain possible potential, but it isn't murder. This is the same tactic that vegans use while spreading their propaganda, "Meat is murder."

The real issue with abortion is that it would have to be looked upon on a case by case basis, without comparing it to other situations to be able to truly determine whether or not it is called for. This is a problem because most people that have strong opinions on abortion have never met a person in this situation and simply because of the large numbers that have to be dealt with. So, what do you do then? You generalize the situation, and take the best examples possible to try to swing any argument in your favor.

For example, someone says "But abortion is fair for someone in X situation." and instantly someone jumps out, "But, there's been cases where people in a similar situation have had the baby and everything turned out fine." The problem with this logic is that life is unfair, and just because a minority of people seem to fall in the best scenario possible, within reason, most people don't.

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#47 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (19685 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell said:

@mrdecepticonleader: I know, and thats another place where I'm conflicted.

Hmm okay.

It would be a wonderful world if life were as black and white as some people make it out to be. The sad reality is that things in life are vastly complex, and it is not up to anyone who isn't familiar with a certain situation to pass judgement or even begin to form an opinion on it.

In a world where abortion can be the most selfish act imaginable and in other cases the most responsible thing a person can do, it shouldn't be this easy to sit at your desk, with the warm glow of your monitor illuminating your face, and type out "abortion is this" or "abortion is that."

Activists always use the word "murder" as an instrument of fear, and people always fall for it. Abortion isn't murder. In some cases it is extremely unfair, as it eliminates a certain possible potential, but it isn't murder. This is the same tactic that vegans use while spreading their propaganda, "Meat is murder."

The real issue with abortion is that it would have to be looked upon on a case by case basis, without comparing it to other situations to be able to truly determine whether or not it is called for. This is a problem because most people that have strong opinions on abortion have never met a person in this situation and simply because of the large numbers that have to be dealt with. So, what do you do then? You generalize the situation, and take the best examples possible to try to swing any argument in your favor.

For example, someone says "But abortion is fair for someone in X situation." and instantly someone jumps out, "But, there's been cases where people in a similar situation have had the baby and everything turned out fine." The problem with this logic is that life is unfair, and just because a minority of people seem to fall in the best scenario possible, within reason, most people don't.

Well said.

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#48 Edited by lykopis (10845 posts) - - Show Bio

I am against ANTI-CHOICE -- I am for PRO-CHOICE!

Unrestricted and free and safe abortions for all and a societal environment that lends itself to it being a rare event due to unrestricted and free sex education/contraceptives.

WOOO!

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#49 Posted by ComicStooge (22063 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm against it.

I don't think it should happen, but I can understand why it does.

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#50 Posted by BumpyBoo (14772 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis said:

I am against ANTI-CHOICE -- I am for PRO-CHOICE!

Unrestricted and free and safe abortions for all and a societal environment that lends itself to it being a rare event due to unrestricted and free sex education/contraceptives.

WOOO!

This. So much this <3

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