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#1  Edited By warlock360

There are some SERIOUS missunderstandings about this figure that id like to clear up...

everyone with a question about hm i'd be glad to answer

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#2  Edited By warlock360

Absolutely everything!

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#3  Edited By The_Martian

Like what?

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#4  Edited By fesak  Moderator

The Marvel Lucifer? There has been more than one.

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#5  Edited By warlock360

^^ THE Lucifer (one and only)

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#6  Edited By Jake Malcom

what misunderstandings have you seen

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#7  Edited By warlock360

many you go ahead and tell me some facts about him^^

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#8  Edited By The_Ghostshell

wtf? Who cares? This ain't Sunday school.

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#9  Edited By Darkchild

well i have one that just fills me with utter curiosity

Gabrial the fallen angel...its just something thats fun.

dont knwo what Jake has to say but i enjoy the whole idea behind it.

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#10  Edited By warlock360

you talking about the movie gods army?^^

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#11  Edited By fesak  Moderator

It would be easier if we knew which Lucifer your'e talking about.

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#12  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Darkchild says:

"Warlock360 says:
"you talking about the movie gods army?^^"

no the history behind him

a fallen angel he was cast from heaven the idea is just cool

and G STFU"

Yeah I'll be sure to do that.

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#13  Edited By Darkchild

Warlock360 says:

"you talking about the movie gods army?^^"

no the history behind him

a fallen angel he was cast from heaven the idea is just cool

and G STFU

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#14  Edited By warlock360

Anyways was off topic ask some questions that youd like to ask someone but dont dare or bother doing so

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#15  Edited By warlock360

fesak says:

"It would be easier if we knew which Lucifer your'e talking about."

well ill take take that as a question <.<

Lucifer from the bible the son of Aurora and son of the Venus

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#16  Edited By warlock360

anyone else?

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#17  Edited By Darkchild

King of Kings says:

"Darkchild says:
"Warlock360 says:
"you talking about the movie gods army?^^"

no the history behind him

a fallen angel he was cast from heaven the idea is just cool

and G STFU"

Yeah I'll be sure to do that."

lol just needed to be said

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#18  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Darkchild says:

"King of Kings says:
"Darkchild says:
"Warlock360 says:
"you talking about the movie gods army?^^"

no the history behind him

a fallen angel he was cast from heaven the idea is just cool

and G STFU"

Yeah I'll be sure to do that."

lol just needed to be said"

Maybe, but it should be someone I would listen to.

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#19  Edited By Darkchild

King of Kings says:

"Darkchild says:
"King of Kings says:
"Darkchild says:
"Warlock360 says:
"you talking about the movie gods army?^^"

no the history behind him

a fallen angel he was cast from heaven the idea is just cool

and G STFU"

Yeah I'll be sure to do that."

lol just needed to be said"

Maybe, but it should be someone I would listen to."

you have listend to me before...alright you listened to me ONCE but hey it happened

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#20  Edited By Final Arrow

Warlock360 says:

"There are some SERIOUS missunderstandings about this figure that id like to clear up... everyone with a question about hm i'd be glad to answer"

OK let clear this up.

One There is not ne lucifer , Satan, The fire lord, Little horn, Morning Star.

just cant get over the fact that you tink can base something to one body, I mean realy come on are you talk new or old testament, We taking Myths of Lucifer,A clearer message is needed!

I mean if you are going to get people to ask y question then you will need to base your facts past the bible, I mean there is a belief that The Devil his own bible, Come on at least try and play the game!

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#21  Edited By BlackPanther

Ok answer me this question… why ado you want people to answer questions about the devil. Ok I’ll tell you what I know.

Lucifer now known as Satan was the angel god created as the first note you hear every morning (for example the first note a bird sings). Satan found that he can manipulate heavenly beings with music, the same way as music makes us feel emotional. so he decided that he will test how far he can go. Soon he had a following who in a way worshiped him and God soon realized this. God banished Satan to hell where he is not a prince of darkness but the prisoner of hell.

Hell is located in the deepest depths of the sea. As you know the sea has barely been explored and there can be anything down there. The gospels say that when Jesus performed and exorcism the demon would possess a pig and drown itself in the sea.

The funny thing is.. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all say that hell is in the sea.

Anyway why do you want to inform us about Satan? Are you part of some satanic cult or something?

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#22  Edited By Jake Malcom

BlackPanther says:

"Ok answer me this question… why ado you want people to answer questions about the devil. Ok I’ll tell you what I know.Lucifer now known as Satan was the angel god created as the first note you hear every morning (for example the first note a bird sings). Satan found that he can manipulate heavenly beings with music, the same way as music makes us feel emotional. so he decided that he will test how far he can go. Soon he had a following who in a way worshiped him and God soon realized this. God banished Satan to hell where he is not a prince of darkness but the prisoner of hell.Hell is located in the deepest depths of the sea. As you know the sea has barely been explored and there can be anything down there. The gospels say that when Jesus performed and exorcism the demon would possess a pig and drown itself in the sea.The funny thing is.. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all say that hell is in the sea.Anyway why do you want to inform us about Satan? Are you part of some satanic cult or something?"

I am

lol

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#23  Edited By BlackPanther

fesak says:

"Lucifer isn't Satan, it's just what most people wrongfully believe. Lucifer means Lightbringer. "

don’t mistake a meaning for a name. remember Lucifer may mean different things in different languages.

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#24  Edited By fesak  Moderator

Lucifer isn't Satan, it's just what most people wrongfully believe. Lucifer means Lightbringer.

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#25  Edited By Methos

Quick question Warlock...

since you claim to know so much about him, why do you call him by a name that was never mentioned in the original bible?

Lucifer is a LATIN name, and wasn't first used until the roman empire... so, as most people are claiming, "it's in the bible", how did a ROMAN / LATIN name get into the original Hebrew text?

if you're going to actually talk about this, make sure everyone has their facts straight first.

in the original Hebrew text of the Bible, there is no mention whatsoever of Lucifer, Hell or any other "satanic" verse

M

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#26  Edited By Jake Malcom

Methos says:

"Quick question Warlock...since you claim to know so much about **him**, why do you call **him** by a name that was never mentioned in the original bible?Lucifer is a **LATIN** name, and wasn't first used until the roman empire... so, as most people are claiming, "it's in the bible", how did a **ROMAN / LATIN** name get into the original Hebrew text?if you're going to actually talk about this, make sure everyone has their facts straight first.in the original Hebrew text of the Bible, there is no mention whatsoever of Lucifer, Hell or any other "satanic" verseM"

points to Methos

I swear this mans a freaking information bank

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#27  Edited By Hagane Enna

King of Kings says:

"wtf? Who cares? This ain't Sunday school."

God help me but I agree with that.

@Warlock: Uh where does it say who Satan's parents are in the Bible?

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#28  Edited By Methos

also, just another one for you, check this one if you actually have a Bible to hand...

Revelation 22:16 The name used is phos-phoros - literally meaning 'morning star' or 'light-bearer'. so everyone agrees that "Morning Star" is pretty much a given name for Satan, Lucifer, Memnoch, The Devil... whatever you want to call him right?

well, according to that logic, Jesus is Lucifer. check your Bibles people.

in both Revelation 22:16 and 2 Peter 1:19, Jesus is referred to as the "Morning Star"

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#29  Edited By Hagane Enna

Jake Malcom says:

"BlackPanther says:Anyway why do you want to inform us about Satan? Are you part of some satanic cult or something?"

I am

lol"

What? You're a Naruto fan or a George Bush fan?

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#30  Edited By Darkchild

Hagane Enna says:

"Jake Malcom says:
"BlackPanther says:Anyway why do you want to inform us about Satan? Are you part of some satanic cult or something?"

I am

lol"

What? You're a Naruto fan or a George Bush fan?"

lol no i am a Gantz fan and i hate bush...well George Bush the others fine

@Methos: HOLY SH!T!!!

felt like telling you MY satanic club. wonder what he is.
Post Edited:2007-10-25 14:50:13

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#31  Edited By Methos

Darkchild says:

"@Methos: HOLY SH!T!!!"

here's the actual quote from the bible...

"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

So Warlock, wants to teach us about Lucifer, The Morning Star... who is Jesus...

hmmm...

M

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#32  Edited By Jake Malcom

Hagane Enna says:

"Jake Malcom says:
"BlackPanther says:Anyway why do you want to inform us about Satan? Are you part of some satanic cult or something?"

I am

lol"

What? You're a Naruto fan or a George Bush fan?"

im a vampire fan, pain is a good things.

bloods the plus to it

And that man makes me want to chope a kitten

picks up kitten

MEOW!!!

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#33  Edited By Darkchild

Jake Malcom says:

"Hagane Enna says:
"Jake Malcom says:
"BlackPanther says:Anyway why do you want to inform us about Satan? Are you part of some satanic cult or something?"

I am

lol"

What? You're a Naruto fan or a George Bush fan?"

im a vampire fan, pain is a good things.

bloods the plus to it

And that man makes me want to chope a kitten

picks up kitten

MEOW!!!"

LMAO

your going to hell

well im off cya guys

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#34  Edited By Darkchild

Hagane Enna says:

"Jake Malcom says:
"Hagane Enna says:
"Jake Malcom says:
"BlackPanther says:Anyway why do you want to inform us about Satan? Are you part of some satanic cult or something?"

I am

lol"

What? You're a Naruto fan or a George Bush fan?"

im a vampire fan, pain is a good things.

bloods the plus to it

And that man makes me want to chope a kitten

picks up kitten

MEOW!!!"

I have so wanted to post this somewhere:

"

hahahaha i love your cat pics

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#35  Edited By Methos

lol Vampire Cat kicks ass :D

M

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#36  Edited By Hagane Enna

Jake Malcom says:

"Hagane Enna says:
"Jake Malcom says:
"BlackPanther says:Anyway why do you want to inform us about Satan? Are you part of some satanic cult or something?"

I am

lol"

What? You're a Naruto fan or a George Bush fan?"

im a vampire fan, pain is a good things.

bloods the plus to it

And that man makes me want to chope a kitten

picks up kitten

MEOW!!!"

I have so wanted to post this somewhere:

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#37  Edited By BlackPanther

Methos says:

"Quick question Warlock... since you claim to know so much about **him**, why do you call **him** by a name that was never mentioned in the original bible? Lucifer is a **LATIN** name, and wasn't first used until the roman empire... so, as most people are claiming, "it's in the bible", how did a **ROMAN / LATIN** name get into the original Hebrew text? if you're going to actually talk about this, make sure everyone has their facts straight first. in the original Hebrew text of the Bible, there is no mention whatsoever of Lucifer, Hell or any other "satanic" verse M"

wow you know your stuff. lol i agree this topic is pointless unless the facts are facts.

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#38  Edited By Methos

BlackPanther says:

"wow you know your stuff. lol i agree this topic is pointless unless the facts are facts."

i love mythology, my main love is Celtic Mythology, especially ancient Irish stuff... but any mythology that grabs peoples attention normally gets my full attention for a month or so lol

M

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#39  Edited By fesak  Moderator

I think the point of this thread was that the mythos of Lucifer was originally quite different than in the bible.

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#40  Edited By Methos

fesak says:

"I think the point of this thread was that the mythos of Lucifer was originally quite different than in the bible. "

lol thats true...

Lucifer was originally brought into the Bible in the King James version, but he was first mentioned by the Romans, who actually had no use for the 'character' as they had their own belief system

M

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#41  Edited By warlock360

BlackPanther says:

"Ok answer me this question… why ado you want people to answer questions about the devil.

It's a missbelief that lucifer is the devil its mentioned NOWHERE in the bible neither new or old testament.

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#42  Edited By warlock360

Methos says:

"Quick question Warlock...since you claim to know so much about **him**, why do you call **him** by a name that was never mentioned in the original bible?Lucifer is a **LATIN** name, and wasn't first used until the roman empire... so, as most people are claiming, "it's in the bible", how did a **ROMAN / LATIN** name get into the original Hebrew text?if you're going to actually talk about this, make sure everyone has their facts straight first.in the original Hebrew text of the Bible, there is no mention whatsoever of Lucifer, Hell or any other "satanic" verseM"

because if i was to say Lux Ferre none would know who the hell i would mean now would they?

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#43  Edited By Methos

Warlock360 says:

"because if i was to say Lux Ferre none would know who the hell i would mean now would they?"

well not unless you want people to think you're talking about Death Metal lol

i'll quite happily call him Memnoch, that title works for me

M

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#44  Edited By warlock360

Methos says:

"Warlock360 says:
"because if i was to say Lux Ferre none would know who the hell i would mean now would they?"

well not unless you want people to think you're talking about Death Metal lol

i'll quite happily call him Memnoch, that title works for me

M"

^^ good 4 u then still i was waiting for a question like "what does is mean?" or "where does it come from?" anyways as you already said and me 2 btw on page 1 (only that i left out from where) hes from the roman belief and is the son of the venus and Aurora

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#45  Edited By warlock360

Methos says:

"Warlock360 says:
"because if i was to say Lux Ferre none would know who the hell i would mean now would they?"

well not unless you want people to think you're talking about Death Metal lol

M"

Oh and its black metal i think ;)