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#1 Posted by The_Caped_Crusader (10533 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Posted by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd drops him with body shots, he wouldn't risk punching him in the head due to his propensity to breaking his hands.

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#3 Posted by ComicStooge (22062 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd drops him with body shots, he wouldn't risk punching him in the head due to his propensity to breaking his hands.

Is there any reason John can't just tackle him? He's a lot bigger.

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#4 Edited by Petey_is_Spidey (11527 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd would have to knock him out IMMEDIATELY, due to John being 100 lbs of pure muscle larger. If john takes him to the ground, its over.

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#5 Posted by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: What's he going to do if he does? He doesn't really have any win condition. He's not cracking Floyd's chin, and he's going to gas very quickly.

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#6 Posted by ComicStooge (22062 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: What's he going to do if he does? He doesn't really have any win condition. He's not cracking Floyd's chin, and he's going to gas very quickly.

Strangle him or just slam his head against the ground until his brains are scrambled? This is a street fight, not a sporting match.

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#7 Edited by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Well by that logic Floyd could drop him immediately with one perfectly placed nut punch as he's shooting in.

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#8 Posted by MaZeRaIII (4725 posts) - - Show Bio

Cena.

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#9 Posted by ComicStooge (22062 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Well by that logic Floyd could drop him immediately with one perfectly placed nut punch as he's shooting in.

I think someone with adrenaline pumping will be able to ignore that sort of pain for a bit.

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#10 Posted by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: It takes a while for adrenaline to kick in you know, this is at the beginning of the fight.

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@comicstooge: It takes a while for adrenaline to kick in you know, this is at the beginning of the fight.

These things are impossible to determine. What's to stop Cena from kicking Floyd in the nuts first?

Isn't it more likely that the far bigger, stronger man will likely win the fight?

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#12 Posted by lettsplay10 (20589 posts) - - Show Bio

Cena

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#13 Posted by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Not when they have no combat experience whatsoever. Floyd fights for a living, Cena has a virgin nose. He hasn't learned what everybody learns when they first step into a boxing gym, not even the simplest stuff like how not to flinch when somebody punches you. I wouldn't be surprised if one full power shot to the body by a real boxer sent Cena to the floor.

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#14 Posted by ComicStooge (22062 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Not when they have no combat experience whatsoever. Floyd fights for a living, Cena has a virgin nose. He hasn't learned what everybody learns when they first step into a boxing gym, not even the simplest stuff like how not to flinch when somebody punches you. I wouldn't be surprised if one full power shot to the body by a real boxer sent Cena to the floor.

But again, boxers train to fight in the ring in sports bouts. Who's to say he'll be able to get a punch off against someone who can just throttle him or tackle him to the ground and smash his head against pavement?

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#15 Posted by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: You keep saying that, but does Cena have any amateur wrestling experience? I doubt he even knows how to shoot a double leg.

There are so many ways for Floyd to instantly drop him. A punch to the throat, liver, kidneys etc. It doesn't matter how much power is behind the shots, you get hit in any of those places and the body shuts down. Floyd has the fastest and most accurate punches in the world, so if you don't think he can do it, you're essentially saying no one can.

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#16 Edited by HellionVulcan (6834 posts) - - Show Bio

I doubt Cena would win as Alex Riley punked him backstage once when Cena said something outta line to him but if Cena could actually pull off some kind of tackle he'd probably win in a ground & pound.

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#17 Posted by silkyballfro94 (8667 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Cena clotheslines Floyd to hell. And Floyd isn't known for his knockout power. Oh and Cena has a 5 inch height advantage with a 100+ lb weight advantage. All in a street fight......LOL.

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#18 Edited by Pharoh_Atem (44245 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd.

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#19 Posted by Simon_the_digger (7048 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd jacks this fools jaw.

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#20 Posted by Wolverine008 (51027 posts) - - Show Bio

John.

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#21 Posted by Straight-Fire (27173 posts) - - Show Bio

Mayweather. Cena is a damn actor.

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#22 Edited by Pharoh_Atem (44245 posts) - - Show Bio

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John.

Spoken like someone who doesn't know a thing about fighting. Actual feats for Cena? He's an actor with no credible durability feats to his name, or the ability to react to one of the fatest strikers on the planet.

Floyd one-shots.

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#23 Edited by comicace3 (12425 posts) - - Show Bio
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@wolverine08 said:

John.

Spoken like someone who doesn't know a thing about fighting. Actual feats for Cena? He's an actor with no credible durability feats to his name, or the ability to react to one of the fatest strikers on the planet.

Floyd one-shots.

Does he have the knock out power?

Oh and wrestlers, whether performing or not do have credible durability feats, everything they do is dangerous especially body slams and taking bumps . Just wanted to put that out there. Haven't decided on a winner.

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#24 Edited by Wolverine008 (51027 posts) - - Show Bio

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@wolverine08 said:

John.

Spoken like someone who doesn't know a thing about fighting. Actual feats for Cena? He's an actor with no credible durability feats to his name, or the ability to react to one of the fatest strikers on the planet.

Floyd one-shots.

I wonder if Floyd promised you a spot on the Money Team if you ran around defending him on forums like a star gazed child :D

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#25 Posted by Pharoh_Atem (44245 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicace3:

Of course he does.Cena is not excatly granite chinned himself.

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#26 Posted by Pharoh_Atem (44245 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@wolverine08 said:

John.

Spoken like someone who doesn't know a thing about fighting. Actual feats for Cena? He's an actor with no credible durability feats to his name, or the ability to react to one of the fatest strikers on the planet.

Floyd one-shots.

I wonder if Floyd promised you a spot on the Money Team if you ran around defending him on forums like a star gazed child :D

Nah.

It's just fun to root for the villains, as all. (^_^)

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#27 Posted by goatzilla (2203 posts) - - Show Bio

Cena delivers a multiverse shattering AA.

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#28 Edited by Wolverine008 (51027 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: Defending a single negus as loyally you do without any benefit financially or power wise is suspect as shit at best, and just down right pathetic at the very worst :D

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#29 Posted by Simon_the_digger (7048 posts) - - Show Bio

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#30 Edited by jayc1324 (26272 posts) - - Show Bio

John Cena. People forget that wrestlers actually do have wrestling skill and are athletes as well. They even continue fighting through torn muslces and concussions in the middle of a match. He isn't going to get tired quickly and he is very tough. In addition to all that he is far bigger and stronger than Floyd and far out of his weight class. He takes Floyd down and chokes him out. All he has to do is cover his head and wrap him up for the takedown. Cena wins.

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#31 Posted by God_Spawn (42766 posts) - - Show Bio

By Cena's own admittance, Manny would wreck him. I'd hate to see what Floyd would do ;).

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#32 Posted by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Well Manny's style is far more suited to street fighting than Floyd's, so that doesn't really follow.

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#33 Edited by Pharoh_Atem (44245 posts) - - Show Bio

@silkyballfro94:

Lol Cena clotheslines Floyd to hell.

Yeah, the guy who dodges punches from word class welterweight boxers, is going to be clothesline by someone who combat speeds pales in comparison. Even if Cena does connect, Floyd has tanked punches from Manny, and he can hit with the collective force of a shotgun, and Hatton - who's blows has been measured to impact with nearly half a ton of force.

And Floyd isn't known for his knockout power.

Without gloves, I don't see Cena tanking many punches from Floyd, because, you know - John doesn't have many chin feats from the get-go.

Oh and Cena has a 5 inch height advantage with a 100+ lb weight advantage.

Doesn't matter when your opponent can effectively one shot, and is far, far, far faster and agile.

All in a street fight......LOL.

Money murders Cena, tbh.

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#34 Posted by God_Spawn (42766 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: Don't forget, DC, Floyd beat Big Show. Big Show can one shot Cena if he hits the WMD.

Floyd wins. Flawless victory!!

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#35 Posted by Pharoh_Atem (44245 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: Don't forget, DC, Floyd beat Big Show. Big Show can one shot Cena if he hits the WMD.

Floyd wins. Flawless victory!!

Exactly.

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#36 Edited by silkyballfro94 (8667 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: Not sure if trolling or trying to rustle jimmies or just defending Floyd for the sake of defending him. But I'll play, I'm bored.

Cena clotheslining Floyd was more of a joke. But yeah that's just one of the many ways he could KO Floyd or assist him in KOing Floyd. Anyways a clothesline is much different from a punch. All you gotta do is have your arm out and run towards someone's neck or upper chest/clavicle area. A clothesline isn't as difficult to pull off as say a jab to the nose or hook to the temple. There is more surface area to work with. It's more of a bullrush move. Have you seen Cena clothesline heavyweights in the ring? They flip once or twice in the air. Sure they're holding back and it's all for show. But imagine Cena coming full force at someone weighing 150lbs in a street fight. Sorry, but Floyd would be a ragdoll.

It also doesn't really matter if Floyd has taken hits from Manny or Hatton. The margin of strength and impact from a punch of a 147lber to a 240lber varies greatly. A heavyweight will no doubt be way way stronger.

It doesn't even matter if they have gloves or not. And John doesn't need chin feats. He's a heavyweight and Floyd is a welterweight. The punches a 147lber throws will not have the same effect on a heavyweight that they do on other 147lbers. Floyd's punches would feel like fluffy pillows to Cena. Floyd has barely enough KO power in his own weight division. Plus, Floyd will never be able to land a headshot.

Floyd can barely oneshot people. When was the last time he did that?

Back in 2011, in a very questionable fight against buster Victor Ortiz which many people would say was a cheap shot. Then the last time before that was against Hatton back in 2005 or 2007. Please, Floyd has zero KO power. And Floyd's agility and quickness is basically a non-factor in a street fight. When all Cena has to do is sprint, tackle him down or bare hug him and then transition into a choke hold or ground and pound. Then it's game over, Floyd has the strength of a small child in comparison. This is a street fight not a boxing match.

Cena viciously MURDERGOD-TIER CUBSTOMPS Floyd in the quickest and most painful manner.

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#37 Edited by Pharoh_Atem (44245 posts) - - Show Bio

@silkyballfro94:

Not sure if trolling or trying to rustle jimmies or just defending Floyd for the sake of defending him. But I'll play, I'm bored.

No one is trolling here, at all.

Cena clotheslining Floyd was more of a joke.

Alright.

But yeah that's just one of the many ways he could KO Floyd or assist him in KOing Floyd

No, it isn't.

Anyways a clothesline is much different from a punch. All you gotta do is have your arm out and run towards someone's neck or upper chest/clavicle area. A clothesline isn't as difficult to pull off as say a jab to the nose or hook to the temple. There is more surface area to work with. It's more of a bullrush move.

Floyd is still faster than Cena, so he can easily avoid it.

Have you seen Cena clothesline heavyweights in the ring? They flip once or twice in the air. Sure they're holding back and it's all for show.

WWE is not even real, so I have no Idea why you're even bringing this up.

But imagine Cena coming full force at someone weighing 150lbs in a street fight. Sorry, but Floyd would be a ragdoll.

Cena won't be tagging Floyd, so it won't matter. Given Floyd is quicker in terms of travel, combat, and reaction speed.

It also doesn't really matter if Floyd has taken hits from Manny or Hatton. The margin of strength and impact from a punch of a 147lber to a 240lber varies greatly. A heavyweight will no doubt be way way stronger.

Show me stats of Cena throwing punches with that force, and not bullshit 'he's bigger so he hits harder argument".

Hatton and Pacman are trained fighters world class fighters, that learn to deliver a punch with the best force and power, the laws of physics and science can permit from them. Cena is an actor who does staged wrestling for a living. The fact you think greater weight class = better punching power is ridiculous, and quite frankly insulting.

It doesn't even matter if they have gloves or not. And John doesn't need chin feats. He's a heavyweight and Floyd is a welterweight.

Yes he does.

The punches a 147lber throws will not have the same effect on a heavyweight that they do on other 147lbers.

Big guys have been wrecked by small guys before, tbh. Like welterweight vs heavyweight size difference.

Floyd's punches would feel like fluffy pillows to Cena.

LAL. No, they wouldn't. Floyd broke the Big Show's nose with a few punches. The Big Show chin >>Cena's chin.

Floyd has barely enough KO power in his own weight division. Plus, Floyd will never be able to land a headshot.

He can easily land a liver shot, throat shot, kidney, shot, etc, etc, to put Cena down. Given Floyd is the most accurate and fastest punchers on the planet, and Cena has no real fighting experience to talk about, then, yeah, Floyd one-shots.

Floyd can barely oneshot people. When was the last time he did that?

When was the last time Cena ever took an actual shot from a serious world champion level fighter?

And Floyd's agility and quickness is basically a non-factor in a street fight.

No it isn't. It can be used to side-step a bullrush, or/and avoid blows that John may throw.

When all Cena has to do is sprint, tackle him down or bare hug him and then transition into a choke hold or ground and pound. Then it's game over, Floyd has the strength of a small child in comparison. This is a street fight not a boxing match.

That's before or after, Floyd one hit KO's him with an accurate shot to the liver thrown faster than Cena can kick out at 2?

Cena viciously MURDERGOD-TIER CUBSTOMPS Floyd in the quickest and most painful manner.

Nah.

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#38 Posted by Simon_the_digger (7048 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait people here actually believe Cena can punch harder than the likes of Cotto, Manny, Del Hoya and Maidana ? lol

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#39 Posted by ComicStooge (22062 posts) - - Show Bio

@sheenlantern: He fights in sporting matches where fighters wear huge gloves and plod along to score points. A street is nothing like that at all.

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#40 Edited by silkyballfro94 (8667 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: Obviously wwe isn't real. But the moves and athleticism are. Cena flipping people is very real. You say that you have no idea why I bring it up, but you bring up Big Show getting his nose broke by Floyd later in your post.

There are no stats showing Cena's power or force of his punches. He's not a boxer. Wrestling in the WWE is mostly grappling. It is safe to assume that Cena does in fact hit harder, but that's not even an important point. Even if Cena's punches were weaker, he'd still win.

The fact that you don't think a greater weight class equals greater punching power is ridiculous and an insult to boxing. That's one of the main reasons weight classes exist in the first place.

He does not need chin feats. This isn't a battle on the battle forums.

Yes, big guys have been wrecked by smaller guys, but not in any professional fight. In real life yes, many big people get beat by smaller people.

And here is where you brought up the Big Show getting his nose broke thing, even though you said wwe is not real and have no idea why I brought it up. First off, Big Show was on his knees and he let Floyd do that. Big Show woulda torn him apart if he wanted to. You can't say Big Show has a better chin just because he got his nose broke. That doesn't even make sense.

Sure Floyd can take shots at his liver or kidney and hope they knock him down. I'm willing to bet Cena would already have him in his arms before he ever gets a punch landed. Plus, Floyd already takes shots at fighter's livers, kidneys, etc. But he never knocks them down lol. Cena is an animal standing 6"1 and 240lbs+. Cena has a whole 100lbs over the fighters Mayweather faces. Remember punches landed on 147lbers don't have the same effect on heavyweights.

The only time I think John has ever taken a punch from a pro fighter was by Lesnar, which looked very real and non-scripted. But disregard this, since you haven't made your mind up on whether wwe stuff is credible or not.

Bruh Cena isn't a fatass like Big show, Viscera, or Bam Bam Bigelow. I doubt he'd have trouble bullrushing Floyd. Even if you count Floyd's agility and quickness, he can't run forever.

GOD-TIER ULTRA MEGA MARCUS FENIX MURDER CURBSTOMP FROM OBLIVION.

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#41 Posted by King Saturn (222785 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd Mayweather wins with just a few well placed punches...

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#42 Edited by DeathpooltheT1000 (18984 posts) - - Show Bio

And this thread shows how overrated Mayweather is.

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The reason to show Cena moves?

Because he has a bigger arsenal that Mayweather, who can only punch.

Besides to show Cena is quite agile for a man of his size.

John Cena had a match for 57 minutes.

Sorry this is based on the idea that Pro Wrestling is as fake as an animated show.

Since that is a lie.

Mayweather loses badly.

Some of you will claim he would had beat Tyson and Ali at the primes.

And this is why people know Mayweather is a joke, made by the media to sell.

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#43 Edited by MadeinBangladesh (12493 posts) - - Show Bio

tie. Never ending match. Floyd never loses and Cena always kicks out at 2

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#44 Posted by russellmania77 (17601 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd can't touch what he can't see

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#45 Edited by Pharoh_Atem (44245 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know why people continue to overrate actors, with no real combat training whatsoever. And post vids of them doing unrealistic choreographic moves as some sort of evidence for his fighting skill.

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#46 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (18984 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know why people continue to overrate actors, with no real combat training whatsoever. And post vids of them doing unrealistic choreographic moves as some sort of evidence for his fighting skill.

I know, but what can some one do?, Mayweather sells, so its obvious people will think he is great.

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@deathpoolthet1000 said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:

I don't know why people continue to overrate actors, with no real combat training whatsoever. And post vids of them doing unrealistic choreographic moves as some sort of evidence for his fighting skill.

I know, but what can some one do?, Mayweather sells, so its obvious people will think he is great.

Honestly, it has nothing to do with it being Floyd Mayweather. I'll would back Hatton or Pac-Man over Cena moreso than Floyd - given their far superior punching power.

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#48 Posted by Cable_Extreme (16737 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd is too small for this. there is a reason for weight classes, and boxer have a very hard time against grapplers.

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#50 Edited by BloodyNights (185 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a pretty silly argument. Anyone who thinks it's easy to tackle a trained fighter even if the person can only throw a punch is retarded. We are also saying this is a street fight situation, Floyd's gloves are off. The size difference is almost non-existent in this match up, due to Floyd's punching power and accuracy greatly exceeding John Cena's and even if they were even and Cena could somehow throw a punch with the striking power of a world class boxer, he'd still be outclassed due to Floyd's defense, and counter striking.

If somehow John Cena managed to tackle Floyd without running into a fist and breaking his nose, or him simply casually side stepping the tackle. On the ground isn't a guaranteed win for either of them. It's a street fight, which makes it a 50/50 coin toss. John Cena will probably go for ground and pounds he is an actor and is relying on brute force always. But if Floyd felt threatened and I'm just assuming that since he is in his own fighting circle. That he would attempt proper self defense. Like shoving his fingers into Cena's eyes, and forcing him off of him.

Over all I'd say it's 9-1 match up in Floyd's favor, John Cena needs a miracle to pull this win off, unless he has some actual training that we don't know about. And I actually like John Cena way more than Floyd. But I'm also more realistic. If you've ever trained in proper self defense or martial arts before. And after you've sparred enough times you'll figure out that brute force alone won't help you in a fight if you've got no technique to back it up.