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#1 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

Edited topic as many dont seem to understand the OP topic.

I am really feeling uncomfortable with this trend of bashing white people lately in media for the past few years. Seems to get worse and worse these days. For example....

Donald Trump election. White people vs rest of America it seems. Evil white people electing evil president. Black Lives Matter. I mean, them damn white people beating up black people and sending them to jail. A Day Without Woman Strike. A all woman protest for women rights protest turn into white privilege woman only event that failed. What that Hollywood? The Ancient One and Danny rand are played by white people and not asians!!!! You White Devils! Sally Boynton Brown, a white woman running for chair of the Democratic National Committee, wants to “shut other white people down.” Epic Rap Battle has Thomas Jefferson apologizing to Frederick Douglass for slavery instead of Rap battling with fun lyrics and insults!?

Well the last one is not a big deal to the world, but still. I mean seriously, wth is this? I am former military and was surrounded by all ethnic groups, and lived in "ghettos" when I was super poor starting out in life. I have Hispanic/African/Asian friends. I figure by the 90s we abolish most of this racial shit, yet here we are in later half of the 2010s, and I feel like as a white person I am attacked by media daily. I feel if any white people try to defend themselves from another ethnic group slandering, then we are racist and insensitive to boot.

WTH happen? Why is there a double standard on White people being racist dicks if they say anything negative, or put down another minority, but minorities can say what they want about eachother and white people and everything is ok? Neither should be bashing the other. Thoughts?

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#3 Posted by deactivated-5b5405244e89c (8376 posts) - - Show Bio

Epic Rap Battle has Thomas Jefferson apologizing to Frederick Douglass for slavery instead of Rap battling with fun lyrics and insults!?

Yep.

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#4 Posted by judasnixon (12663 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope..... You are just paying to much attention to social media...Don't pay any mind to that ****, and go live your life.

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#5 Posted by mrmonster (14683 posts) - - Show Bio

According to SJWs, it sure is.

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#6 Posted by IceDemonKing (9982 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I will say white dudes seem to be often shown as the bad guys sometimes these days, but I ain't white so I am not qualified to speak.

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#7 Posted by BlueHope (2681 posts) - - Show Bio

"Epic Rap Battle has Thomas Jefferson apologizing to Frederick Douglass for slavery instead of Rap battling with fun lyrics and insults!?"

Yeah that one was simply cringeworthy, shame on the writer.

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#8 Posted by HeroUp2112 (18168 posts) - - Show Bio

Yanno what? Speaking as a pink skinned fellow. Black, Asian, and Hispanic folks seemed to have survived it for a fair number of decades...we white types still have most of the money (not trying to be a douche, it's just reality), I think we'll survive all this "white folks suck" thing.

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#9 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio
@heroup2112 said:

we white types still have most of the money (not trying to be a douche, it's just reality), I think we'll survive all this "white folks suck" thing.

Kinda Douche. White people as a whole are not any richer. 1% have money. Me and every fellow white friends and family that I know is below middle class or barely middle class. Or worse, farmers lol. Every India person I know is a damn doctor or own a store and have 3 cars and 4 bedroom houses :/. India and Asians seem the most successful to me. Asians also have the highest school grades over any other race too which is interesting study in itself.

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#10 Posted by Thekillerklok (9922 posts) - - Show Bio

Why can't we stop judging people based on the color of there skin and instead judge them on the content of their character?

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#11 Edited by Arkbound (1665 posts) - - Show Bio

Lately in general its become more and more prominent for an "underprivileged" group to talk about what their issues and concerns are (nothing wrong with that) but inevitably the conversation turns into a comparison between the haves and the have nots. White people (typically straight white males) are considered the group that isnt underprivileged in society (and because its hard to pin a specific cause for a lot of these complicated geopolitical issues) they become the strawman for the underprivileged groups arguments

Its too bad as they alienate potential supporters by shaming and blaming white people in general.

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#12 Posted by BlueHope (2681 posts) - - Show Bio

Yanno what? Speaking as a pink skinned fellow. Black, Asian, and Hispanic folks seemed to have survived it for a fair number of decades...we white types still have most of the money (not trying to be a douche, it's just reality), I think we'll survive all this "white folks suck" thing.

Even though I don't think "white shaming" is a serious problem in US, money don't really make prejudice easier to deal with, just ask jews if being from a wealthy group in general make anti semitism sound silly.

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#13 Edited by Arkbound (1665 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluehope: I agree, but to be fair a lot of antisemitism came about because of the jewish populations affluence during a time of depression and hardship (or I should say perceived affluence)

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#14 Edited by Don_Higashikata (729 posts) - - Show Bio

According to modern Marvel, yeah

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#15 Posted by HeroUp2112 (18168 posts) - - Show Bio

@heroup2112 said:

we white types still have most of the money (not trying to be a douche, it's just reality), I think we'll survive all this "white folks suck" thing.

Kinda Douche. White people as a whole are not any richer. 1% have money. Me and every fellow white friends and family that I know is below middle class or barely middle class. Or worse, farmers lol. Every India person I know is a damn doctor or own a store and have 3 cars and 4 bedroom houses :/. India and Asians seem the most successful to me. Asians also have the highest school grades over any other race too which is interesting study in itself.

I meant as percentage of wealth in society, and perhaps I was being myopic in thinking of American and European society. Trust me I'm not any kind of wealthy. I'm a disabled veteran, I only make 75% of what I made as an active duty Sergeant, and that wasn't much to begin with. ;)

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#16 Posted by HeroUp2112 (18168 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluehope said:
@heroup2112 said:

Yanno what? Speaking as a pink skinned fellow. Black, Asian, and Hispanic folks seemed to have survived it for a fair number of decades...we white types still have most of the money (not trying to be a douche, it's just reality), I think we'll survive all this "white folks suck" thing.

Even though I don't think "white shaming" is a serious problem in US, money don't really make prejudice easier to deal with, just ask jews if being from a wealthy group in general make anti semitism sound silly.

I was mainly kidding about the money thing, and what you say is definitely true especially for the larger percentage of we white people who DON'T have much money. I could be wrong, but I'd imagine a larger majority of Jews don't have as much money as the well to do portion.

Man I hope I'm not digging myself a deeper hole here off of what was supposed to be an off hand joke.

My REAL point is. I don't think we white people have much to worry about with all this white shaming business.

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#17 Edited by removekebab (3790 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluehope said:
@heroup2112 said:

Yanno what? Speaking as a pink skinned fellow. Black, Asian, and Hispanic folks seemed to have survived it for a fair number of decades...we white types still have most of the money (not trying to be a douche, it's just reality), I think we'll survive all this "white folks suck" thing.

Even though I don't think "white shaming" is a serious problem in US, money don't really make prejudice easier to deal with, just ask jews if being from a wealthy group in general make anti semitism sound silly.

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#18 Posted by Green_Tea (10415 posts) - - Show Bio

As a spanish guy, I definitely cringe whenever I see a white person act like they know everything about what's it like to live as a minority and act like one just to make me feel less excluded or anyone else who isn't white.

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#19 Posted by jashro44 (52066 posts) - - Show Bio

The title is being over dramatic. I don't think its a sin. Stuff like reviewers being outraged at marvel for casting white people instead of Asians is the only thing that really strikes me as terrible because there SJW crusade is hypocritical (at least in the examples I am aware of). Stuff like Donald Trump isn't just white people vs everyone else. There are other issues, without going into detail, you have to keep in mind Trump is the most unpopular president in office and Hillary was even more unpopular than him. There was going to be outrage no matter who won.

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#20 Posted by cattlebattle (17635 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, it's cool to hate white people these days. Not to hate the fruits of their labor like internet, tv, video games, comic books, film, etc......just white folks. Because of colonization or something.

Nope..... You are just paying to much attention to social media...Don't pay any mind to that ****, and go live your life.

What?? Where do you live?? They basically have courses on how to "deconstruct whiteness", whatever the hell that means, at Universities these days. Go back to posting Linda Carter images.

Kinda Douche. White people as a whole are not any richer. 1% have money. Me and every fellow white friends and family that I know is below middle class or barely middle class. Or worse, farmers lol. Every India person I know is a damn doctor or own a store and have 3 cars and 4 bedroom houses :/. India and Asians seem the most successful to me. Asians also have the highest school grades over any other race too which is interesting study in itself.

True. East Asians and Indians outperform whites financially in the US. Muh white privilege though.

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#21 Edited by Jgames (8084 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah is a bit annoying seeing stupid jokes like white people over and over, but at the same time you see lot of other stupid jokes about other race.

I also like to believe most people are not idiots who think other race deserved better treatment just for not being white, but the problem is that they see a race having a singularity issue instead of including income, jobs, sex etc. I remembered this white lady asking me if I was hispanic and that I must hate Trump and that the Hispanic community has to stick together, which sort of infuriated me that she basing my political view with my race ( I mean granted I am anti-Trump, but still).

At the same time seriously apologizing for slavery is a bad thing? I mean yes white people don't have to act like other people have it rough for not being white, but considering the content of ERB, yes there nothing wrong with that video.

I guess what I am trying to say is, make racist joke on everybody so nobody feel left out. White people for being slave owner, KKK redneck inbreed. Mexican for climbing fences and selling drugs with their taco stand. Black people for not being happy with their ancestor not being paid for their work and okay I stop XD.

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#22 Posted by removekebab (3790 posts) - - Show Bio

As a spanish guy, I definitely cringe whenever I see a white person act like they know everything about what's it like to live as a minority and act like one just to make me feel less excluded or anyone else who isn't white.

What happens when whites are a minority though?

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#23 Posted by Dextersinister1 (1257 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: you have to keep in mind Trump is the most unpopular president in office and Hillary was even more unpopular than him. There was going to be outrage no matter who won.

You would have had a lot of people who disliked the results but not the same level of outrage. If 2 people shout out in anger and another goes out and starts smashing properties that one person probably contains more outrage than the other 2 combined.

The title is being over dramatic

You are right, but every political group has a bad guy, to an extent you could say for the right that's undesirable foreigners and terrorists.

But the left are all about apparent tolerance but they still need a bad guy.

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#24 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

My REAL point is. I don't think we white people have much to worry about with all this white shaming business.

I get ya now.

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#25 Posted by judasnixon (12663 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, it's cool to hate white people these days. Not to hate the fruits of their labor like internet, tv, video games, comic books, film, etc......just white folks. Because of colonization or something.

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Nope..... You are just paying to much attention to social media...Don't pay any mind to that ****, and go live your life.

What?? Where do you live?? They basically have courses on how to "deconstruct whiteness", whatever the hell that means, at Universities these days. Go back to posting Linda Carter images.

Kinda Douche. White people as a whole are not any richer. 1% have money. Me and every fellow white friends and family that I know is below middle class or barely middle class. Or worse, farmers lol. Every India person I know is a damn doctor or own a store and have 3 cars and 4 bedroom houses :/. India and Asians seem the most successful to me. Asians also have the highest school grades over any other race too which is interesting study in itself.

True. East Asians and Indians outperform whites financially in the US. Muh white privilege though.

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#26 Edited by sineyaprime (1358 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

The title is being over dramatic. I don't think its a sin. Stuff like reviewers being outraged at marvel for casting white people instead of Asians is the only thing that really strikes me as terrible because there SJW crusade is hypocritical (at least in the examples I am aware of). Stuff like Donald Trump isn't just white people vs everyone else. There are other issues, without going into detail, you have to keep in mind Trump is the most unpopular president in office and Hillary was even more unpopular than him. There was going to be outrage no matter who won.

I doubt that considering almost 3 million more people voted for her, resulting in her winning the popular vote.

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#27 Posted by mikethekiller (9669 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep the hate for white people is getting ridiculous, this morning a bunch SJWBLMLGBTQ protesters ran though my neighborhood putting burning crosses on white people lawns.

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#28 Posted by jashro44 (52066 posts) - - Show Bio

@sineyaprime: Well I should probably rephrase. I don't know if Hillary was less popular at the time of the election but currently she is less popular than Trump (the way I phrased it makes it sound like she was always less popular). Either way neither candidate was really that popular if memory serves.

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#30 Posted by Nefarious (35647 posts) - - Show Bio

*sigh* I see this thread going nowhere.

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#31 Posted by Wolfrazer (16056 posts) - - Show Bio

But I'm a light tan color, a little darker in some spots tho. I'm not white!

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#32 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

The title is being over dramatic. I don't think its a sin. Stuff like reviewers being outraged at marvel for casting white people instead of Asians is the only thing that really strikes me as terrible because there SJW crusade is hypocritical (at least in the examples I am aware of). Stuff like Donald Trump isn't just white people vs everyone else. There are other issues, without going into detail, you have to keep in mind Trump is the most unpopular president in office and Hillary was even more unpopular than him. There was going to be outrage no matter who won.

I doubt that considering almost 3 million more people voted for her, resulting in her winning the popular vote.

What Jash is referring to are favorable/unfavorable ratings.

I don't know the actual ratings, but you can be viewed as more unfavorable while still winning the popular vote. For example, many people viewed both candidates unfavorably, but a lot of those same people voted for Clinton because they saw her as a lesser evil. Still an evil, just lesser.

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#33 Posted by Light1150 (597 posts) - - Show Bio

1) more than half of those things you listed actually have a functional, good purpose for different types of people

2) Just because you grew up around minorities and grew up in "the ghetto" does not mean you know what it feels like to be one of them

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#34 Posted by sineyaprime (1358 posts) - - Show Bio

I am really feeling uncomfortable with this trend of bashing white people lately in media for the past few years. Seems to get worse and worse these days.

Donald Trump election. White people vs rest of America it seems. Evil white people electing evil president.

And you don't think Trump and some of his supporters share any of the blame for the narrative? A lot of the times it's their words and actions that people are responding too.

Black Lives Matter. I mean, them damn white people beating up black people and sending them to jail.

Since BLM condemns the attacks carried out by fringe radicals claiming association with them, I don't really understand how they made it sin to be White? Their mission is mainly to improve the situation of Black individuals, especially those of whom are disabled or LGBTQ. Maybe you should provide some examples of what you mean by BLM?

A Day Without Woman Strike. A all woman protest for women rights protest turn into white privilege woman only event that failed.

That I'm aware of the problem there was that minority women were less likely to be able to miss work, so the additional involvements of not shopping at certain stores and wearing red were added to be more inclusive for those women who couldn't afford to miss work. Not such a problem to me.

What that Hollywood? The Ancient One and Danny rand are played by white people and not asians!!!! You White Devils!

People seem to be upset more that there's so few Asian-Americans depicted in major roles and even when there is a part for them it's given to White actors for whatever reasons. If you recall, there were plenty of White people upset about a Black stormtrooper. Again I don't see how this makes it sinful to be white.

Sally Boynton Brown, a white woman running for chair of the Democratic National Committee, wants to “shut other white people down.”

Here's a more complete quote:

“My job is to listen and be a voice, and my job is to shut other white people down when they want to interrupt,” Ms. Brown said, Fox News reported Tuesday. “My job is to shut other white people down when they want to say, ‘Oh no I’m not prejudiced, I’m a Democrat, I’m accepting.’ […] My job is to make sure that they get that they have privilege and until we shut our mouths and we listen to those people who don’t and we lift our people up so that we all have equity in this country … we’re not going to break through this.”

What's she saying is that she want's to make sure that minorities are heard in the DNC and not interrupted by some of the White members who assume they don't have any prejudice or lack of understanding just because they're Dems. This isn't a problem to me, in fact I actually like this, Liberal people can be just as out of touch as anyone else and they should be called on it.

Well the last one is not a big deal to the world, but still. I mean seriously, wth is this? I am former military and was surrounded by all ethnic groups, and lived in "ghettos" when I was super poor starting out in life. I have Hispanic/African/Asian friends. I figure by the 90s we abolish most of this racial shit, yet here we are in later half of the 2010s, and I feel like as a white person I am attacked by media daily. I feel if any white people try to defend themselves from another ethnic group slandering, then we are racist and insensitive to boot.

Growing up in "ghettos" or poverty and having minority friends doesn't necessarily mean you can understand and are exempt from racial issues, though I understand what you're getting at. Admittedly I don't understand why you feel "attacked by the media daily", could you elaborate on that?

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#35 Edited by sineyaprime (1358 posts) - - Show Bio

1) more than half of those things you listed actually have a functional, good purpose for different types of people

2) Just because you grew up around minorities and grew up in "the ghetto" does not mean you know what it feels like to be one of them

Beat me to it.

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#36 Edited by Thekillerklok (9922 posts) - - Show Bio

imagine that feeling when you descend from starving immigrants, refuges from the nazi's and native Americans To "Check your Privilege" because your skin is white...

or that you should feel guilty because of your skin color...

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#37 Edited by Revan- (7959 posts) - - Show Bio

Thinks 63% of the population is a sin.

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#38 Posted by comicace3 (12429 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

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#39 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@light1150 said:

2) Just because you grew up around minorities and grew up in "the ghetto" does not mean you know what it feels like to be one of them

Now that hypocritical shit.

Being in the same position of poverty, and growing up around the culture, and yet I cannot know what it must feel like, or say anything in my defense, because of my skin color. Wow.

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Growing up in "ghettos" or poverty and having minority friends doesn't necessarily mean you can understand and are exempt from racial issues, though I understand what you're getting at. Admittedly I don't understand why you feel "attacked by the media daily", could you elaborate on that?

I mean the whole white shaming that media portrays in internet and news. I feel like my "race' is somehow to blame for shit. Till common sense runs its course in me that is afterward. Im just kinda sick of media outlets trying to down someone like me who is white and now doing well for myself.

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#40 Posted by sineyaprime (1358 posts) - - Show Bio

What Jash is referring to are favorable/unfavorable ratings.

I don't know the actual ratings, but you can be viewed as more unfavorable while still winning the popular vote. For example, many people viewed both candidates unfavorably, but a lot of those same people voted for Clinton because they saw her as a lesser evil. Still an evil, just lesser.

Of course you can, and both them finished with historically unfavorable images but according to Gallup at least, Hillary had 47% total favorables compared to Trump's 36% total favorables, with a 4% margin of error, immediately prior to the election. So while she was indeed seen as a lesser evil, she was also likely more popular.

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#41 Posted by Revan- (7959 posts) - - Show Bio

I am really feeling uncomfortable with this trend of bashing white people lately in media for the past few years. Seems to get worse and worse these days.

Donald Trump election. White people vs rest of America it seems. Evil white people electing evil president.

But white people did get Trump elected for the most part. Cite

Black Lives Matter. I mean, them damn white people beating up black people and sending them to jail.

Preventing unlawful murder of blacks, mean white people are hated. Good logic,

Epic Rap Battle has Thomas Jefferson apologizing to Frederick Douglass for slavery instead of Rap battling with fun lyrics and insults!?

Because Jefferson ACTUALLY owned slaves!

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#42 Posted by Heatblaze (10399 posts) - - Show Bio

It's only a sin if you're an SJW.

But if you're white, straight, and cis.....oh boy you're in trouble with them.

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#43 Posted by sineyaprime (1358 posts) - - Show Bio

@sineyaprime said:

Growing up in "ghettos" or poverty and having minority friends doesn't necessarily mean you can understand and are exempt from racial issues, though I understand what you're getting at. Admittedly I don't understand why you feel "attacked by the media daily", could you elaborate on that?

I mean the whole white shaming that media portrays in internet and news. I feel like my "race' is somehow to blame for shit. Till common sense runs its course in me that is afterward. Im just kinda sick of media outlets trying to down someone like me who is white and now doing well for myself.

Could you be more specific, are you referring to news media or media in general? And if it's news, are you referring to major outlets or smaller sources? And how are they trying to "down" you?

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@sineyaprime said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:

@sineyaprime said:

Growing up in "ghettos" or poverty and having minority friends doesn't necessarily mean you can understand and are exempt from racial issues, though I understand what you're getting at. Admittedly I don't understand why you feel "attacked by the media daily", could you elaborate on that?

I mean the whole white shaming that media portrays in internet and news. I feel like my "race' is somehow to blame for shit. Till common sense runs its course in me that is afterward. Im just kinda sick of media outlets trying to down someone like me who is white and now doing well for myself.

Could you be more specific, are you referring to news media or media in general? And if it's news, are you referring to major outlets or smaller sources? And how are they trying to "down" you?

I posted some examples that came to mind. When watching major news stations, you see all the protest of the election which ALWAYS brought out the numbers of White Men and Women voting trump. Thus the country is torn in half.

I brought up Black Lives matter. Perfect example, I work in the hospitable as security. Shitty job, and the other week we had two black guys talking "Gangsta" to me, the white guy, and talk "Normal" to my Black partner. Even my Partner rolled his eyes at them when they talk to me. Like WTH is that shit? That is one of many, many examples. Youtube and facebook is littered with White Shaming, or at the least White Men Shaming controversy. Sure people were upset about the all female cast of Ghostbusters, but the real juicy stories was Leslie Jones character and her twitter war as a black chick who is not a scientist. Barack Obama (Who I voted for twice) was such a insane topic because he was the "First Black President" and stuff. So his race is all his presidency remembered for?

Do I really need to go on? Its not a secret of white shaming being more popular in major and smaller media sources now and days than 10 or 20 years ago. It seem like Racism, minus the muslims via 9/11, was at all time low, and then exploded as controversy again like its the 60s or something.

Strikes me odd as this seems to be one of the defining trends of 2010s.

Edited Video into OP instead. it strikes home from one of my fav Youtub channels.

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#45 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

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But white people did get Trump elected for the most part. Cite

I know. Thats why this country is "torn in half" as the media states it. White people vs everyone else.

Preventing unlawful murder of blacks, mean white people are hated. Good logic,

Oh so Black people are the only victims of police brutality? Thats like saying women are the only people to get rape. Who cares about the other gender, or in this case other races beaten on by police :/ Also BLM has claim responsibility for cop killings too.

Because Jefferson ACTUALLY owned slaves!

And? He was no pro slave trade, but that really is not the point. The ERBs is about two fictional characters making fun of the other with lyrics, that video was Jefferson saying he was sorry and douglas is right about everything. It was clearly not in theme and more white shaming. So your point?

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#46 Posted by rogueshadow (29178 posts) - - Show Bio

It's only a sin if you're an SJW.

But if you're white, straight, and cis.....oh boy you're in trouble with them.

This, but you missed male.

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#47 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

It's all a bunch of nonsense.

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#49 Edited by ITouchedTheBoat (3367 posts) - - Show Bio

if you step out of your little bubble and look at how most of the world is talking and acting right now, you'll realize it's seeming a lot more like it's a sin to be coloured rather than white.

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#50 Posted by ValarMelkor (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

Sort of seems that way.