Is the MAGA hat a symbol for white supremacy?

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Poll Is the MAGA hat a symbol for white supremacy? (30 votes)

Yes 17%
No 83%

Just like how the Swastika technically isn't originally a white supremacy symbol, but became that way through use, and the Confederate Flag isn't originally a white supremacy symbol but became that way through use.

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Yup

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No, it isn't.

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#5  Edited By InvadedTBD

No but it's a symbol for people who follow an idiot and racist lol.

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@invadedtbd: No, it's not for that, either. He's an idiot on occasion, he's definitely not a racist, though.

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To some people it is, but the same can be said for the OK hand sign.

On the whole, it isn't.

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@iron_tiger: he definitely is a racist, listen to his comments on Mexicans again and tell me he's not.

And I quote "drug dealers, criminals and rapist"

Dudes a racist, ignorant dumbass for real. Cant even take him seriously anymore, everytime I see him I just laugh dudes a joke.

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#11  Edited By dernman

Only to those stupid enough to believe it.

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Sometimes and sometimes not

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#13  Edited By Wilkiins17

@invadedtbd: he was referring to ILLEGAL immigrants when he said that. Emphasis on the ILLEGAL part because thay broke into America illegally.

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@wilkiins17: honestly I don't have time to argue this.

Just because they came here illegally doesn't make them those things. There are plenty of legal Americans who do those things also.

You guys have different opinions and I respect that but I don't respect him. Point blank period.

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@invadedtbd: He very clearly and in plain English stated "illegal immigrants." It's not an opinion, it's purely a fact; they're those things because the majority of them are committing those crimes. Trump isn't a racist for stating facts. Sometimes I wonder if people are actually listening, since they're almost always twisting what he says to fit their agenda.

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@invadedtbd: and i respect your opinions but there's a difference between an opinion and objective fact and its objective that Trump isn't racist.

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@wilkiins17: Do you have a hat yet? I'm debating getting one myself.

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@iron_tiger: if it facts show me the statistics on it cause I would love to see it.

Prove that illegals are committing most of those crimes and this idiot isn't just talking out his ass.

Because every study or poll I see and research says immigrant groups commit less crimes than American born citizens or legal immigrants.

Last comment in this thread BTW don't wanna derail it.

Like I said I respect your opinions, but no respect for him.

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@iron_tiger: .......... you really wanna bring up his racist comments on mexicans or ?

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Everything is a symbol of white supremacy these days.

Hats, hand gestures, hashtags, clowns, flags, sayings, animal care, nordic runes, certain types of science and mathematics, speaking english properly, borders, european history, farming, due process etc.

It's all so tiresome.

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No. I want one.

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@darkonast: Yes, even though I didn't bring it up, since it's relevant. Please cite each time he was racist and make sure to have irrefutable proof (video evidence).

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@invadedtbd: “just because they came in illegally from one place to another, that doesn’t make them illegal immigrants.”

...I don’t get it

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@cattlebattle: And rather hilarious, because most of those items were made by white people.

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@ryokuma100: when did I say this? Smh

Seriously post#14 read it properly and the context before.

I said just because they came here illegally doesn't make them drug dealers, criminals and rapists. Come on.... don't change up my words, if you're gonna quote me do it properly.

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No it's not and I love how people are still misinterpreting Trump. He didn't call all Hispanic people criminals he stated that there was an influx of Hispanic criminals coming over illegally.

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@ryokuma100: when did I say this? Smh

Seriously post#14 read it properly and the context before.

I said just because they came here illegally doesn't make them drug dealers, criminals and rapists. Come on.... don't change up my words, if you're gonna quote me do it properly.

He didn't claim they're all criminals he claimed with them bad people are coming which is true.

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@mister_stark: not even gonna bother again. Gonna tell you what I told the other guy.

Refer to post #19 show me the statistical facts on what he is saying and I'll believe you.

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@invadedtbd: Are you saying you're so naive as to think everyone single person that comes over the border ILLEGALLY is a law abiding person? No drug mules, No human trafficking, no cartel, etc.?

I don't like Trump but we do have some border issues.

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@mister_stark: don't strawman me, when did I say that? Where did I state they commit no crimes?

Like I said show me the proof that illegal immigrants are the ones committing most of those crimes.

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@mister_stark: don't strawman me, when did I say that? Where did I state they commit no crimes?

Like I said show me the proof that illegal immigrants are the ones committing most of those crimes.

^ This is a straw-man as was your original post

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@mister_stark: Lmfao like I said prove his claims or stop tagging me with stupid shit.

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@invadedtbd: I'm not making the claim that he's racist; the burden of proof is on you.

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@invadedtbd: You claimed he called all Hispanic people bad that was a strawman.

You claimed I claimed that they cause more crime that was a strawman.

And then you agreed with what we both actually said.

@mister_stark: Where did I state they commit no crimes?

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Social media, the PC community and the SJWs are calling it "white supremacy," on account of them being clinically insane.

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@mister_stark: I wasn't going to respond but your a special kind of idiot who deserves attention so here i am.

Quote me on your 1st statement. Never did i say anything about all that's what you interpreted from it. I said "listen to his comments on Mexicans again"

Quote me on your 2nd statement. Never said you said anything I just refused to deal with you so I told you to prove what the other guy said because other than that statistic I don't care.

Lmfao and where did I agree I said prove they commit a majority of the crimes that were mentioned like IronTiger said which would make them what Trump called them. I never once said they don't commit any crimes I want IronTiger to show me the proof of them committing the majority. Lol try to keep up kid.

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@invadedtbd said:

@mister_stark: I wasn't going to respond but your a special kind of idiot who deserves attention so here i am.

Quote me on your 1st statement. Never did i say anything about all that's what you interpreted from it. I said "listen to his comments on Mexicans again"

Quote me on your 2nd statement. Never said you said anything I just refused to deal with you so I told you to prove what the other guy said because other than that statistic I don't care.

Lmfao and where did I agree I said prove they commit a majority of the crimes that were mentioned like IronTiger said which would make them what Trump called them. I never once said they don't commit any crimes I want IronTiger to show me the proof of them committing the majority. Lol try to keep up kid.

I understand you're heated up about this, but let's keep it civil, yes?

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@invadedtbd said:

@mister_stark: I wasn't going to respond but your a special kind of idiot who deserves attention so here i am.

Simone's mad.

Quote me on your 1st statement. Never did i say anything about all that's what you interpreted from it. I said "listen to his comments on Mexicans again"

@invadedtbd said:

No but it's a symbol for people who follow an idiot and racist lol.

You claimed Trump was racist for what he said but, your argument is a starwman because he's not saying all Hispanics are bad he's only saying that some bad people make it over with them.

Quote me on your 2nd statement. Never said you said anything I just refused to deal with you so I told you to prove what the other guy said because other than that statistic I don't care.

You asked me to back up my claims above^ (some bad people come across) Which I replied "are you really that naive blah blah blah"

You want me to prove that they make up the majority of crime but neither me or Trump stated that.

Lmfao and where did I agree I said prove they commit a majority of the crimes that were mentioned like IronTiger said which would make them what Trump called them. I never once said they don't commit any crimes I want IronTiger to show me the proof of them committing the majority. Lol try to keep up kid.

@invadedtbd said:

@mister_stark: don't strawman me, when did I say that? Where did I state they commit no crimes?

Like I said show me the proof that illegal immigrants are the ones committing most of those crimes.

That shows that you agree that some bad people make it across.

Also the only kid here is you. I'm not the one acting like a drama queen getting mad over nothing.

Also if you're going to call me an idiot use the right *You're*

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@iron_tiger: I'm good not heated up just don't like words being put in my mouth. Which is why I asked him to quote me directly on what he claimed I said.

Honestly I didn't want this to turn into a policatical debate and I probably won't respond anymore unless he tries to put more words in my mouth.

Like I said earlier don't want to derail the thread, that was never my intention.

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@invadedtbd: It's good, man; just remember to stay calm and have a friendly jest like the rest of us. I get anxious when it comes to politics, too.

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It's just a symbol of people who support Donald Trump, whatever their reason may be.

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The MAGA hat is no more racist than the rebel flag. To some it is a symbol of what it stands for and that is 'make America great again' but on a bigger scale it breeds hate. Underneath it all it stands for

Hate the Mexicans, Hate the Muslims, Hate the fake news, Hate the Democrats and Hate those who do not stand up for the flag during the national anthem!

So again, to some it is a sign of American pride, but it does carry a lot of hate.

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Not really, but it's been used by people who are racist...maybe it is...idk anymore

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it's definitely been used by some people who do want it seen as a hate symbol but, that's not what it was meant to be.

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This is offensive to actual victims of racism and white supremacy. Grow up, people.

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Social media, the PC community and the SJWs are calling it "white supremacy," on account of them being clinically insane.

This

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No, it's clearly not.

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#50 juiceboks  Moderator

I'm going to go ahead and say this falls under the Politics thread..