Is Michael Bay really the worst director ever?

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Rotten Tomatoes state his movies suck ass. never a fresh rating outside The Rock and even then not that good.

Yet, his dominance in the box office is always clear. Up there with guys like Cameron and Spielberg in how much money his films make!

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How does this shitty director make so much money when clearly critics show he has no talent? Or maybe, just maybe, he is pretty good at what he does. You decide.

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#2 MajinBlackheart  Moderator

He's great at what he does but the vast majority of those aren't good movies in the sense of writing and acting, and I think that's what critics are looking for. Audiences mostly want visuals, action and some humor, all of which Bay provides.

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#3  Edited By jwwprod

While he's by no means great but he's not as bad as some people say he is. There are some movies by him at I do like like the first Transformers movie.

I do think there are much worst directors out there COUGH Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer COUGH.

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Audience score is what really matters. Just dont over analyze the movies and you will enjoy them

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Bad boys and Armageddon are ace!

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Some of his movies are cool, but I can get the hate. Transformers 5 was terrible.

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#7  Edited By black_wreath

Not even close.

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Zack Snyder alone is worse

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No because he has good movies name 1 good uwe boll film

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RT can go kick rocks! That's the only derogatory figure of speech I can think of that doesn't offend the rules of this site lol

Also based off RT reviews I'm pretty sure Zack Snyder is going for his title

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He prefers to make dumb blockbusters but when it comes to actual directorial talent, he's not half bad.

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#12  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

He prefers to make dumb blockbusters but when it comes to actual directorial talent, he's not half bad.

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no way on Earth. Some of his movies are actually good. His movies also make money. Armageddon and the Rock were good movies imo.

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As long as Shyamalan is directing, bay isn't the worst

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Not even close. Haven't you seen Uwe Boll's work?

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#18  Edited By mimisalome

Not a fan of Bay, but much of the movie critics are art elitists.

Their review standards just don't apply to the kind of mindless, visual "entertainment" which Michael Bay provides.

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Absolutely terrible, but I wouldn't say the worst

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#20 JediXMan  Moderator

You need to watch more Uwe Boll movies.

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Not even close. Haven't you seen Uwe Boll's work?

Damn! Someone beat me to it!

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M Night Shamalan say hi

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Is he a visionary of the cinematic art, hell no.

He does however know how to make movies that people will see.

Lloyd Kaufman, Paul WS Anderson, Uwe Boll, Roger Corman and 100's more are much worse.

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#24  Edited By Superhero24

M. Night Shyamalan's has the sixth sense, Split, Unbreakable, and Signs as 4 very successful movies with both critics and box office. He isn't close to being as bad as Bay. That is kinda an insult to him. The Sixth sense was nominated for 6 oscars and ranked as top 200 best rated movies on IMDb.

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I don't think many people call him the worst or worst ever. Though a bad or average director? Yeah I can see that. But I do think he has a couple decent movies and maybe the ability to make a great movie. It's just that he loves making those garbage Transformers movies.

There are other directors much more worthy of this "worst ever" title.

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His movies are enjoyable to watch so not the worst.

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Is he a visionary of the cinematic art, hell no.

He does however know how to make movies that people will see.

Lloyd Kaufman, Paul WS Anderson, Uwe Boll, Roger Corman and 100's more are much worse.

Get out of here!

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Is he a visionary of the cinematic art, hell no.

He does however know how to make movies that people will see.

Lloyd Kaufman, Paul WS Anderson, Uwe Boll, Roger Corman and 100's more are much worse.

Get out of here!

Who the hell is Lloyd Kaufman. Is that the guy who made Toxic Avenger?

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M. Night Shyamalan's has the sixth sense, Split, Unbreakable, and Signs as 4 very successful movies with both critics and box office. He isn't close to being as bad as Bay. That is kinda an insult to him. The Sixth sense was nominated for 6 oscars and ranked as top 200 best rated movies on IMDb.

All true, and yet I still can't forgive him for the The Last Airbender.

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#30  Edited By black_wreath

@black_wreath said:
@misterwhisper said:

Is he a visionary of the cinematic art, hell no.

He does however know how to make movies that people will see.

Lloyd Kaufman, Paul WS Anderson, Uwe Boll, Roger Corman and 100's more are much worse.

Get out of here!

Who the hell is Lloyd Kaufman. Is that the guy who made Toxic Avenger?

Yes, Troma founder.

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I didnt even bother reading everyone comment.

No he's not. 5+ Transformer movies and counting..

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Michael Bay is a genius, he don't give 2 f's what critics say, he only cares about what audiences want to see. Which, if were being honest here, is how you make money. If he was trying to make a critic perfect movie, he'd spend more money on actors and less on visuals/etc (what ppl want to see). If I wanted to see Brad Pitt, I'd watch Troy. How many critic friendly movies have gotten the attention Transformers has received?? Michael Bay is a GREAT director. It's like school, you can get all A's, but suck in business since you're going by the books and not experimenting. Or you can get all C's and become a billionaire, since you know what ppl will buy. #MichaelBay, f*** critics make money lmfao

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Michael Bay is a genius, he don't give 2 f's what critics say, he only cares about what audiences want to see. Which, if were being honest here, is how you make money. If he was trying to make a critic perfect movie, he'd spend more money on actors and less on visuals/etc (what ppl want to see). If I wanted to see Brad Pitt, I'd watch Troy. How many critic friendly movies have gotten the attention Transformers has received?? Michael Bay is a GREAT director. It's like school, you can get all A's, but suck in business since you're going by the books and not experimenting. Or you can get all C's and become a billionaire, since you know what ppl will buy. #MichaelBay, f*** critics make money lmfao

Good answer.

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No, but he is sort of the poster child for unimaginative and overly patriotic movies. His movies are watchable afternoon affairs that are good to have around when dealing with a hangover or something.

As for who's worse... well there's Uwe Boll, who's highest rated piece of work has an RT score of just 45%, has a habit of mauling videogames into movies, and just comes out with movie stinkers.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/uwe_boll/

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He's one of the most legitimate auteurs working in mainstream movies right now

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@khael said:

@decaf_wizard: Hell nah.

Yea

Hack Snyder is solely responsible for ruining a series that could've been great. Any movie in the DCEU except WW has been a 3/10 or 4/10 and its his fault. He should stick to movies like 300

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He provides for normies.

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Yeah Kaufman is the founder and director of all the Troma movies.

I am a huge movie guy, and I love bad cheap "B" movies. I have quite a few Troma movies in my collection. They have an appeal of their own style, I guess.

If a movie is crap, but everyone knew it was going to be crap going in, and they just ran with it, like the Troma movies it is cool because you know it will be so bad it is funny.

What I hate is when a director thinks they are making a serious and we'll made movie but they just suck at it and the movie is a train wreck, like Cabin Fever.

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Audience score is what really matters. Just dont over analyze the movies and you will enjoy them

No scores matter whether it's critic or audiences. Only your own opinion. People need to stop putting so much value in these scoring sites.

Anyway anyone who says he's the worst is using hyperbole. You can't legit say he's the worst with movies like The Room in existence.

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The guy bores me, but he sure as hell isn't thr worst ever, or the worst right now, or the worst with successful movies.

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I'm watching The Rock right now, I think this movie alone is good enough to take him out of the question.

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Not at all. His movies tend to be bland, but there are definitely good ones in there. Pain & Gain, for one...

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Not even close. Haven't you seen Uwe Boll's work?

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He's good at what he does, which involves blowing stuff up. Either than that he's horrible at everything.

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No.

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Anyone that says Michael Bay is the worst director hasn't watched very many movies.

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Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer would like to have a word with you.