Is Incest Immoral? Why Or Why Not.

I personally don't think it is immoral despite my disgust for it.

I think the general rule for the civilised society is that as long as you don't hurt anybody you're free to do what you want. However, incest does do harm as the babies that might come from it might have genetic problems from what I remember.

God made the cousins for we don't have to fuck our sisters/brothers.

Because, it's hardwired into us to find it repulsive.

Not to mention, if you have siblings and lived with them, you will definitely find them too annoying to shag

By society's standards? Yes, otherwise, why would there be so many incest porn (stepmom and stepson count as a low-key version of the topic, or perhaps a form of projection)? People obviously consider it immoral and absolutely filthy, however, it is owing to its nature as being a taboo, that certain people found it...intriguing, thrilling, or even enjoyable in its own twisted little ways.

As long as your not related

Leviticus 18 gives the answer to this question.

No but it is disgusting

Honestly, if it doesn't involve rape and both sides do consent, I'd say I'm fine with it.

If it is between two consenting adult siblings, who just met and started dating, then probably not. I would say that, as long as there are no coercive elements present, and no one is getting hurt or taken advantage of in an unfair way, then it's within the bounds of morality.

Look at these comments. This is what the filth of manga has brought us too. It has made incest acceptable. :p

I'm kidding manga fans.

The answer is a given.

Depends on the culture.

I know, my first comment was a joke.

Yes and its disgusting

i dont count sex with cousins etc immoral

In the Insufferable testament, it is considered immoral.

It's immoral and disgusting, but I don't think it should be illegal.

U shouldnt because thats not how it should work and it leads to a lot of problems, but it shouldnt be seen as disgusting if all other humans are wiped out

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OT: as long as they’re consenting it ain’t my business. However they should be discouraged from having kids due to defects.

Only child, or...?

No I personally wouldn't label incest as a whole as "immoral" there are certain types of incestuous relationships that are immoral such as let's say an old Uncle and a young niece but even if they weren't related I'd still consider that type of relationship to be immoral mainly due to the age difference so the immortality of the relationship doesn't really come from the incest itself it more so stems from the age of the people within the relationship. Now say we have two consenting adults (who are related) who love each other and are in a relationship even though that might be weird in my eyes I wouldn't label their relationship as "immoral" just because I personally don't agree with it, I'm personally a straight person but I don't go around labeling LGBTQ Orientated individuals as immoral people nor do I claim they commit immoral acts. Some people usually like to bring up incest reproduction leading to disabled offspring but they fail to realize that that's usually only prevelant in multigenerational inbreeding and even then depending on the level of relation between the couple there's a chance their progeny will be fine even with multigenerational inbreeding. So no incest in my eyes is not immoral as long as the age gap isn't to wide and it's consensual.

I think incest is immoral. This is because close relatives (e.g. brothers, sisters, biological parents, first cousins, grandparents) are people who you should look after and care for and protect. Having sexual relations with close relatives is a violation. To many of us decent and good people, it feels instinctively wrong to even think about doing such a thing. It feels like God has wrote into our souls that if you have sexual relations with close relatives then that will damage your soul and that you will be reincarnated into a lesser life form in the next life or you will go to Hell.

There are some people who make the argument that incest is not immoral if two consenting adults want to go at it and that the only bad thing about incest is the potential genetic defects that can arise in offspring from an incestuous couple but to me the people who make that argument are missing the point. Using the 'let two consenting adults do what they want to do, it's their business and nobody else's' argument is wrong. Even if an incestuous couple produce offspring with no genetic defects, that incestuous couple have still done an immoral thing. Genetic defects or no genetic defects, incest is bad, period. Incestuous thoughts are also immoral.

If you have a good soul, you should know that incest is immoral and that people who do incestuous things or think about committing incest with a close relative will damage their souls.

Even if all other humans are wiped out, I think incest is bad. I think incest is bad in all circumstances.

I think that incest is immoral and disgusting and that incest should be illegal.

Lmao XD Manga brought Octopus Hentai stuff.

Well said

I agree with your comment but the grammar is wrong. You should have wrote it as 'Yes and it's disgusting' not 'Yes and its disgusting'. You missed the apostrophe. Anyway, I'm sorry for nitpicking.

Is romantic/ sexual relationship immoral?

-No

I think people defending incest because of adult material. If your sister was Peta Jensen? Wouldn't you resist?

@arranvid: Since you gave a long detailed explanation like me I thought it would be intresting to go over some of your points since we seem to disagree with each other.

There are some people who make the argument that incest is not immoral if two consenting adults want to go at it and that the only bad thing about incest is the potential genetic defects that can arise in offspring from an incestuous couple but to me the people who make that argument are missing the point. Using the 'let two consenting adults do what they want to do, it's their business and nobody else's' argument is wrong. Even if an incestuous couple produce offspring with no genetic defects, that incestuous couple have still done an immoral thing. Genetic defects or no genetic defects, incest is bad, period. Incestuous thoughts are also immoral. If you have a good soul, you should know that incest is immoral and that people who do incestuous things or think about committing incest with a close relative will damage their souls.

You seem to be conflating personal beliefs with morality, you've used the religious argument which is fine but what if the people comitting incest are atheists? what if they believe in a religion where by incest is encouraged? Etc... these are just prime examples of why the religious argument doesn't hold up when discussing morality and why using religion to claim that incest is universally immoral isn't valid as not everyone believes in your religion. Now the act itself in my opinion is rather disgusting but that doesn't make it immoral just because I personally do not agree with something does not make it morally wrong, just because you and your religion are against incest doesn't then make it universally immoral as their are tons upon tons of people who either believe in different religions or who are simply unreligious.

Imagine taking a platonic relationship with the people you grew up with and perverting it because you can't keep it in your pants.

Who said you grew up with them?

Even still no one who commits incest is right in the head.

I agree.

If the people committing incest are atheists then they are still at fault for committing incest because any incestuous sexual relationship is wrong. The two atheists in that incestuous relationship do not believe in God, so they think that God will not punish them for being incestuous and they also think that there are no religious codes to follow because they are non-religious, but they should realize that two very related people should not be incestuous with each other because a person should protect and care for a sibling but having sex with a sibling and lusting over a sibling is damaging and disgusting. Close relatives like siblings and biological parents share a lot of DNA with a person and it is wrong to be lustful over someone who you share lot of DNA with. In the case of siblings, both siblings were created from the same mum and same dad and both came out of the same mum's womb...the womb that nurtured and cared for them...so it is wrong for a person to have sexual activities with a sibling or a biological parent or any close relative.

If the two atheists believe in a religion whereby incest is encouraged then that religion they follow is wrong because there are many things that normal people can feel are instinctively wrong. For example, millions of people around the world feel that it is instinctively wrong to do the following things: incest, murder, child molestation, rape, bestiality. None of those millions need religion to tell them that those five things I just mentioned in the previous sentence are wrong, it's an instinctive feeling that it is wrong. If someone follows a religion that promotes incest or murder or child molestation or rape or bestiality then that religion is wrong. By using logic and common sense, people should know that incest, murder, child molestation, rape, bestiality are all wrong...regardless of the person being atheist or religious. In my opinion, two adults having a consensual lesbian or gay relationship is not wrong and is not immoral because the two adults in the relationship are not related and because the feeling of lesbian love or gay love that they have is not damaging anyone and it is something that is natural and cannot be changed and it would be wrong and damaging to try and change it with 'conversion therapy' and stuff.

In the Animal Kingdom there are non-human animals that do disgusting sexual stuff with close relatives but their brains are not intelligent enough to realize that the incestuous stuff that they do is wrong. Humans, on the other hand, are fortunate to have the intelligence and critical thinking to come to the conclusion that having an incestuous relationship is wrong. Those non-human animals sometimes don't have a choice when it comes to the incestuous lust they feel because they are primitive and they can't understand the consequences of their actions (for example, Common fruit fly females prefer to mate with their own brothers over unrelated males) but humans are not as primitive as them and we can make that choice to not do disgusting incestuous stuff and we have the intelligence and critical thinking capacity to understand the consequences that come from our actions.

I do not follow any religion. I think God exists, but I do not follow any religion. In my opinion, I think Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Jainism and most other religions are wrong. I think they are wrong because they are man-made and were created by people who did not understand science to the level we understand science today. Those religions are also not very deep in their philosophies and they are too rule based and demanding and this is not how I imagine God to be. I find flaws in what the religious teachers like Jesus, Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Buddha, Mahavira said. I think God exists and I think Atheism is wrong. I think Atheism is wrong because this universe exists and it has existed for around 13.8 billion years and something created this universe since this universe was not always around. I do not think God is like an old man in the sky because I think that is a narrow-minded depiction of God and I do not think it is a true depiction. I do not fully know the mind of God because there are sad things that happen in the world and in the universe so I do not know whether God is good or indifferent to His creations (I say 'His' but I am sure God is genderless and is neither 'He' nor 'She' because 'He' and 'She' is for the biological creations and God is like a genderless spirit who did not come from Earth). But even without knowing the true nature of God, I know through reason and logic that incestuous relationships are wrong. Sometimes when people go through life changing circumstances they feel that God is helping them. Yes there are people who go through hardships and difficulty and they wonder why God isn't helping them directly but that's not how God works...He isn't supposed to be a daily superhero that comes to your every need like Santa Claus or Superman. I think the philosophy that makes the most sense is Sanatana Dharma because of the science behind it (even with it being one of the oldest religions ever created and even though it is man-made). Even Sanatana Dharma has its flaws, but it feels right because it shows how God can seem indifferent to His creations. It says that God is good (which I think is right) but I think it says that no human can truly understand God because God is too far above us for us to grasp. I know it's an annoying thing because humans are curious and want to know the mind of God but it is what it is. Maybe the whole reincarnation thing is correct but I am not sure.

If someone doesn't instinctively feel that incest or bestiality or rape or murder or child molestation is wrong then something is wrong with that person. There are people who were born with normal brains but then were sexually abused or physically abused when they were children so they did incest/bestiality/rape/murder/child molestation but in a lot of those cases those people get counselling and realize that what they did was wrong and then they turn over a new leaf and become better people and they don't do that bad stuff ever again. Then there are other people who know that incest/bestiality/rape/murder/child molestation are wrong but they choose to commit those disgusting and horrible things because they like the pain and torture they inflict on their victims. Those people are evil. God or no God, any good person with normal intellect and normal reasoning should know that incest/bestiality/rape/murder/child molestation are all wrong.

@superdarth:

Even still no one who commits incest is right in the head.

This simply isn't true, what if you've met a family member for the first time and your sexually attracted to them? what if you commit incest for political reasons like royals did such as keeping the power in your family Etc none of these things implies anyform of mentall illness. It's one thing to not agree with something but labelling those who do something that you personally do not like as "not right in the head" is rather ridiculous

@arranvid:

If the people committing incest are atheists then they are still at fault for committing incest because any incestuous sexual relationship is wrong.

In your eyes it's wrong, but not for everyone and simply put your personal views are in no way shape or form superior to others so again you can't label it as universally immoral based of personal beliefs

The two atheists in that incestuous relationship do not believe in God, so they think that God will not punish them for being incestuous and they also think that there are no religious codes to follow because they are non-religious but they should realize that two very related people should not be incestuous with each other because a person should protect and care for a sibling but having sex with a sibling and lusting over a sibling is damaging and disgusting.

I'm gonna find myself asking this a lot but the simple question I have is WHY? Why is it"damaging or disgusting" what's damaging about two consenting adults being in a romantic/sexual relationship with each other? You've mentioned protect and care quite a lot but you can protect and care for someone while dating them. So I'm rather curious to see the actual reasoning behind your claims.

Close relatives like siblings and biological parents share a lot of DNA with a person and it is wrong to be lustful over someone who you share lot of DNA with.

Why is it wrong? DNA in it of itself isn't visible or tangible and it's only relevant when it comes to reproduction but if you have 2 consenting siblings engaged in incest with no desire to reproduce DNA doesn't play a single factor so it's hardly a valid argument.

In the case of siblings, both siblings were created from the same mum and same dad and both came out of the same mum's womb...the womb that nurtured and cared for them...

Ok and? What does this have to do with dating when their adults?

so it is wrong for a person to have sexual activities with a sibling or a biological parent or any close relative.

I agree with the parent because of the age gap, but again if we have 2 conseting adults of similar age who are romantically attracted to each other and are dating, why is that wrong?

• They aren't harming anyone
• The relationship is consenual
• DNA isn't even a factor if they decide not to reproduce
• The chances of the offspring getting any disabilities is rather low as the incest isn't multi - generational

Above are just prime examples of why your argument simply doesn't hold up.

If the two atheists believe in a religion whereby incest is encouraged then that religion they follow is wrong

No just no, this isn't how the world works just because their beliefs contradict yours does not make their's lesser that's just a disgusting level of belief in your own superiority. I'll repeat what I stated I'm personally straight but I don't look down or label those who aren't straight as "wrong" or "immoral" everyone is entitled to their own beliefs yours are in no way shape of form superior to that of others.

because there are many things that normal people can feel are instinctively wrong. For example, millions of people around the world feel that it is instinctively wrong to do the following things: incest, murder, child molestation, rape, bestiality. None of those millions need religion to tell them that those five things I just mentioned in the previous sentence are wrong.

Grouping incest with the rest of your examples is incredibly disingenous as it's in no way shape or form similar to the rest of the examples you stated.

• Murder is the taking of a human life and is usually not consenual
• Rape/Child Molestation is not consenual and the latter usually has a significant age gap
• Bestiality will just never result in anything as animals and humans aren't compatible

In the example I've continued to provide Incest has none of these issues we have 2 consenting siblings who are dating:

• They aren't killing anyone
• Its consenual and the age gap isn't wide
• They're both humans so they're compatible

If someone follows a religion that promotes incest or murder or child molestation or rape or bestiality then that religion is wrong. By using logic and common sense, people should know that incest, murder, child molestation, rape, bestiality are all wrong..

No it isn't as Incest is not Murder or Child Molesting or Rape or Bestiality they aren't the same things, stop trying to group incest with immoral things becuase you don't like it as the morality of incest is subject to discussion hence why this thread was even created.

In my opinion, two adults having a consensual lesbian or gay relationship is not wrong and is not immoral because the two adults in the relationship are not related and because the feeling of lesbian love or gay love that they have is not damaging anyone and it is something that is natural

Homosexuality is a rather new concept in human history and was anything but natural for the majority of human history. If we're talking about natural for centruies royal families all across the world practiced incest and it was a widely accepted thing.

'but humans are not as primitive as them and we can make that choice to not do disgusting incestuous stuff and we have the intelligence and critical thinking capacity to understand the consequences that come from our actions.

Why is it disgusting? And there's little consequences for being in a loving consenual relationship

I do not follow any religion. I think God exists.

I don't think you understand what religion actually means. Religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods. By believing in God you are therefore religious even if your the only person who follows your religion even if your religion doesn't have a name, if you believe in God then you believe in a religion that believes that God is real.

The rest of your paragraph is just claims on certain religions being wrong which I don't really care much about.

Cousins don't count as incest

If you really think the royals that inbred were right in the head, you should probably read up on history.

If you meet a family member and feel an attraction to them, you are indeed not right in the head.

I do label all people who commit incest as sick in the head and I will never change my mind on this, cry about it. Why are you defending incest anyways?

Well said SuperDarth.