Is Dream cheating at Minecraft?

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Dream, renowned for his speed running and manhunt series is one of the fastest growing Minecraft youtubers in the world. He has recently been accused of cheating on one of his streams as having “impossible” speedruns and manipulating/coding the games probability of drops. Dream then responded with his own video where he hires a harvard statistics grad to check the actual probability of his speed run (a run that wasn’t even close to the world record) with the realization that it wasn’t as impossible as previously thought. So is dream a cheater do you think?

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who knows, but I like to watch his Minecraft youtuber videos. Btw I found cool online minecraft games on https://www.friv5online.com/minecraft-games which I can play for free. Like to play them to impolve my gamig skills.

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I wouldn't believe so. But at the same time it's the internet. The same thing that told us Herobrine was real lol

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He is. Considering that there are people whose job it is to analyze this kind of stuff, and since they say Dream is cheating, I'm siding with them.

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Definitely.

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Definitely.

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From what I’ve seen and heard

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From what I've seen it's like a 99.9999999999 percent chance he has cheated, but I still love his videos and I honestly couldn't care less about speedrunning, let alone Minecraft speedrunning.

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Definitely cheating

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I do want to add his response videos seem fair. Even though they are biased. He hasn't made an world records or anything like that. And some of the mods agreed it was unfair and actually decided to quit. It does seem like the mods just don't like him in general because he got banned from bedrock speed runs. Something he never did. I don't watch a whole lot of Dream. And have only watched a few of the man hunt videos which I don't really know what to say about them. But it's also common for people who have large popularity to be accused of something. People also just say he's cheating because he's really good at certain aspects of the game. Which everyone takes as obvious signs of cheating. If anyone does to good it's an automatic red flag. Which is not. There is a limit where it's to good, like when some random dude smashes a world record in real life. Then there might be an issue, there is an area for being "to good". But I don't think Dream is in that area.

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It would be funny if he was 😂

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He didn't even give us the name of the person he hired to make his response, which leads to even more suspicion and suggests he did cheat.

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He didn't even give us the name of the person he hired to make his response, which leads to even more suspicion and suggests he did cheat.

he didnt do that because that person would get fucking attacked so badly. he mentioned it before.

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I'm not an expert at speedrunning statistics but after watching Karl's video of the incident I can't help but conclude that Dream's luck was almost virtually impossible.

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both opposition makes 0 fucking sense. actually dream just seems very lucky. you cant make up shit to claim stuff on dream but at the same time i doubt many can disprove the claims.

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I'm not an expert at speedrunning statistics but after watching Karl's video of the incident I can't help but conclude that Dream's luck was almost virtually impossible.

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@takenstew22 said:

I'm not an expert at speedrunning statistics but after watching Karl's video of the incident I can't help but conclude that Dream's luck was almost virtually impossible.

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give me a summary

im not watching 24 minutes

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@userthatisme said:

@ultraphoenix said:

He didn't even give us the name of the person he hired to make his response, which leads to even more suspicion and suggests he did cheat.

he didnt do that because that person would get fucking attacked so badly. he mentioned it before.

Then why even bring up the guy in the first place? You can't just say you hired someone to do all this work and then not mention their name at all, we don't even know if it's someone who has proper credentials, plus there was a reddit post that practically debunked the response, and it was written by someone who actually has a PhD.

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@userthatisme: Sorry, I'm too lazy.

im also too lazy. ill expect that youtuber to be false until proven wrong

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@userthatisme said:

@ultraphoenix said:

He didn't even give us the name of the person he hired to make his response, which leads to even more suspicion and suggests he did cheat.

he didnt do that because that person would get fucking attacked so badly. he mentioned it before.

Then why even bring up the guy in the first place? You can't just say you hired someone to do all this work and then not mention their name at all, we don't even know if it's someone who has proper credentials, plus there was a reddit post that practically debunked the response, and it was written by someone who actually has a PhD.

i dont take reddit posts seriously because of many reasons. i doubt they have a phd unless im proven wrong. i also havent clicked on the link yet so ignore all that if i was wrong.

he brought the guy up to say he had help. he also mentioned the guy having a phd aswell. he mentions many things on the stuff. watch someordinarygamers and dreams talk on the matter

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@userthatisme: Yeah he brought up the guy but we don't actually know if the guy is legit, whereas others who do respond to his stuff can actually prove they have PhD's and whatnot, so there's actually some merit to their arguments.

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@ultraphoenix said:

@userthatisme: Yeah he brought up the guy but we don't actually know if the guy is legit, whereas others who do respond to his stuff can actually prove they have PhD's and whatnot, so there's actually some merit to their arguments.

ill take your word on what you think and know. i still think he didnt cheat. but there are still matters worse than dream cheating. dreams exes and stuff like that.

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@ultraphoenix said:

@userthatisme: Yeah he brought up the guy but we don't actually know if the guy is legit, whereas others who do respond to his stuff can actually prove they have PhD's and whatnot, so there's actually some merit to their arguments.

ill take your word on what you think and know. i still think he didnt cheat. but there are still matters worse than dream cheating. dreams exes and stuff like that.

That stuff is pretty rough. Dude can’t catch a break

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@userthatisme said:
@ultraphoenix said:

@userthatisme: Yeah he brought up the guy but we don't actually know if the guy is legit, whereas others who do respond to his stuff can actually prove they have PhD's and whatnot, so there's actually some merit to their arguments.

ill take your word on what you think and know. i still think he didnt cheat. but there are still matters worse than dream cheating. dreams exes and stuff like that.

That stuff is pretty rough. Dude can’t catch a break

He was doxxed. That’s fucked up

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@userthatisme: from what I’ve seen from his report about all this was that some of the dox was accurate, some of it wasn’t. Him and Sapnap are living together in a different house currently which he hasn’t really explained. That tells me that he’s probably feeling sketched about being at his own personal home, or else why wouldn’t he just let his friend stay there with him? Also from what I can tell his ex was pretty abusive and manipulative

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I just don't think he's cheating. If he was he would have made a world record. And no body ever accused him of cheating until he started getting millions of subs. Many less popular speed runners have been accused of cheating. I think he's just being accused because of his popularity. Also, not many Minecrafter's are as good at pvp and parkour as him. Which is another reason people accuse him of cheating. They just think he's to good, which doesn't seem valid to me.

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@steve40l: The issue with Dream's speedrun wasn't skill. The problem is the impossible RNG. Somebody already posted it, but Karl Jobst video is excellent on the subject.

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@steve40l said:

I just don't think he's cheating. If he was he would have made a world record. And no body ever accused him of cheating until he started getting millions of subs. Many less popular speed runners have been accused of cheating. I think he's just being accused because of his popularity. Also, not many Minecrafter's are as good at pvp and parkour as him. Which is another reason people accuse him of cheating. They just think he's to good, which doesn't seem valid to me.

The "why does he cheat if he's good/popular?" argument has already been debunked. Here's what a pro speedrunner has to say to that:

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To be honest I'm not a huge Dream fan. And have really only heard one side of the argument. I still think he got lucky. It happens to other speed runners. I think his popularity puts a massive target on him. But that's just my opinion.

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He is.