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#1 Posted by Gymgoer205 (1267 posts) - - Show Bio

Discuss.

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#2 Posted by Dewin50 (1453 posts) - - Show Bio

Noope

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#3 Posted by Cream_God (15519 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

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#4 Posted by Mandarinestro (7651 posts) - - Show Bio

None is superior to the other. The advantage of capitalism, laissez-faire that is, is economic freedom, while the advantage of socialism is well... "security", aka people giving you free stuff for no effort at all.

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Oh yeah, and I really mind saying so.

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#13 Posted by Racob7 (9584 posts) - - Show Bio

In some ways, yes.

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#17 Posted by deactivated-097092725 (10555 posts) - - Show Bio

So, this is a meme thread.

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#19 Posted by ScouterV (7764 posts) - - Show Bio

@ms-lola: The irony is that, much like both Capitalism and Socialism, the main point is being buried and disappearing.

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#21 Posted by Renchamp (7738 posts) - - Show Bio

Neither can be superior as long as they are run by humans.

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#22 Edited by Mandarinestro (7651 posts) - - Show Bio

@edamame: If you're referring to USSR, they're not a Socialist country at all; they're Stalinism. The wealth in those kinds of countries circulate around the bureaucrats like Lenin, Stalin, Molotov, Khruschev. But still, real Socialism like France kills the spirit of free enterprise through taxes and whatnot, then politicians and "public service" rob everyone else. In Capitalism, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Thomas Edison, and Warren Buffett actually make an effort to get rich.

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#23 Posted by Jphu8414 (4044 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm why don't I call up some of my friends from Stalin led Soviet Union, Mao led China, North Korea, Cambodia, and Vietnam...oh wait I can't because most of them are DEAD!

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@scouterv said:

@ms-lola: The irony is that, much like both Capitalism and Socialism, the main point is being buried and disappearing.

I've developed an internet crush on you.

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#27 Posted by ScouterV (7764 posts) - - Show Bio

@ms-lola said:

@scouterv said:

@ms-lola: The irony is that, much like both Capitalism and Socialism, the main point is being buried and disappearing.

I've developed an internet crush on you.

You flatter me, m'lady. Thank thee.

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#28 Edited by Dewin50 (1453 posts) - - Show Bio

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@edamame: If you're referring to USSR, they're not a Socialist country at all; they're Stalinism. The wealth in those kinds of countries circulate around the bureaucrats like Lenin, Stalin, Molotov, Khruschev. But still, real Socialism like France kills the spirit of free enterprise through taxes and whatnot, then politicians and "public service" rob everyone else. In Capitalism, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Thomas Edison, and Warren Buffett actually make an effort to get rich.

At least you're not one of those "Not capitalist? Commie bastards.. *fires machine gun*" ;)

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@dewin50: And the Soviet Union remained an impoverished nation as the decades progressed. By Marx's standards the Soviet Union would be a 'dictatorship of the proletariat' aka not even a full fledged socialism. When Gorbachev decided on Glastnost, it was revealed how much corruption there was in the government. Socialism makes it much easier for government officials to take all the money for themselves.

I am fully aware that Capitalism isn't perfect, but I'd rather have entrepreneurs rather than greedy bureaucrats.

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#30 Posted by Mandarinestro (7651 posts) - - Show Bio

@edamame: Sorry I meant to tag you in the post above.

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#31 Edited by TimeLordScience (1940 posts) - - Show Bio

@mandarinestro: Cuba is strangled by sanctions, so using them as an example of why socialism is bad is idiotic.

The fact that they function at all despite the United States' best efforts is astounding.

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#32 Posted by TimeLordScience (1940 posts) - - Show Bio

OP: why would you bother asking this on a board populated mostly by westerners?

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#33 Posted by Mandarinestro (7651 posts) - - Show Bio

@timelordscience: If they were capitalist they wouldn't have sanctions and would function better. I also gave an example of Venezuela.

I'm not a Westerner by the way.

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#34 Posted by Dewin50 (1453 posts) - - Show Bio

I am fully aware that Capitalism isn't perfect, but I'd rather have entrepreneurs rather than greedy bureaucrats.

I guess this one's for me.

Yeah i'm just not fond of the idea of not sharing food with my little brother just because he didn't help me acquire it. I don't think Socialism or Communism is the way of the future but capitalism today is slowly but surely becoming more and more unstable.

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#36 Edited by TimeLordScience (1940 posts) - - Show Bio

@mandarinestro: that works two ways: if the US wasn't capitalist, then there wouldn't be any sanctions on Cuba either.

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#38 Posted by Gymgoer205 (1267 posts) - - Show Bio

@timelordscience: What is your evidence that this board is populated mostly by westerners?

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#39 Posted by Mandarinestro (7651 posts) - - Show Bio

@edamame: Because power hungry warlords such as Stalin and Mao came to power, it was destined to fail.

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#40 Posted by Aronmorales (9735 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, I just want a job and for my debit card not to require few extra cents when making purchases.

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#41 Posted by dimitridkatsis (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

Guys theoritically socialism sounds great I know but it's not, it's the reason Greece is so f@cked up economically right now cause of the PA.SO.K socialist party acting like money grrew on trees that the country has the debt it does. I know you're thinking some few people destroyed a great idea but it was the idea they didn't have to bother destroyed them and if anyone would doubt their ways was socially cut out and slowly their reputation finances etc. destroyed, trust me you don't want socialism you're fine. Capitalism's gonna stop itself.

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#42 Posted by the_stegman (40140 posts) - - Show Bio

Socialism is the ideal way of doing things, but since humans are greedy and jealous things, it will never work, so capitalism will have to do.

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#43 Edited by nick_hero22 (8686 posts) - - Show Bio

Why not both?

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#44 Edited by Noone301994 (22169 posts) - - Show Bio

They both have their flaws and advantages.

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#47 Posted by TimeLordScience (1940 posts) - - Show Bio

@gymgoer205: it's a site about American comic books, it isn't a proposterous assertion.

I'm sure there are threads with a poll asking what country people are from.

If that disatisfies you, ask a mod.

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#48 Posted by Gymgoer205 (1267 posts) - - Show Bio

@timelordscience: I don't care enough to ask a mod. You made the claim so I asked you to back it up with evidence. If you can't or don't want to that's okay. Enjoy your day kind sir.

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#49 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

Watching Americans try and grasp the concept of Socialism is pretty funny.

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