If the Republican Primaries were tomorrow who would you vote for?

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Poll If the Republican Primaries were tomorrow who would you vote for? (78 votes)

Donald Trump 44%
Jeb Bush 10%
Scott Walker 0%
Mike Huckabee 0%
Ted Cruz 5%
Ben Carson 9%
Chris Christie 1%
Carly Fiorina 4%
Rick Perry 1%
Rick Santorum 0%
Marco Rubio 1%
John Kasich 3%
Jim Gilmore 0%
Rand Paul 17%
George Pataki 0%
Lindsey Graham 0%
Bobby Jindal 5%

If the Republican Primaries were tomorrow who would you vote for?

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#2  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

I'm independent so I can't vote in the primary.

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#3  Edited By Straight-Fire

I don't vote. Like, ever. I'd rather die.

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#4  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

I'd rather vote for a bobble head.

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havent narrowed it down to one yet. Cruz, trump, carly, rand paul all good choices. and some people better start getting more tolerant of conservatives as the chances of a democrat winning this election is legitimately 0%

bobby jindal and pataki are decent just they clearly arent going anywhere in this race

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@lunacyde: did you watch the debates yesterday? Who stood out to you?

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@rpgesussaid:

a democrat winning this election is legitimately 0%

Why?

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@dccomicsrule2011: you're candidates are a lying, near criminal, undercover socialist. An out-of-the-closet socialist and maybe joe biden. Oh yeah dont forget they were trying to get starbucks ceo to run. regardless of the piss poor candidates, most Americans are tired of ridiculous PC culture and the whiny groups of liberals plus we just got done with an 8 year assault on america. Its time for real change and a lot of americans have had enough. examples would be trump soaring in polls and the fact that they gop debate on fox was the most watched news program of all time.

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@rpgesussaid:

{you're candidates}

Don't exactly know how it's my candidates, as I've never sided with one side or the other.

are a lying, near criminal, undercover socialist. An out-of-the-closet socialist and maybe joe biden. Oh yeah dont forget they were trying to get starbucks ceo to run. regardless of the piss poor candidates, most Americans are tired of ridiculous PC culture and the whiny groups of liberals plus we just got done with an 8 year assault on america. Its time for real change and a lot of americans have had enough. examples would be trump soaring in polls and the fact that they gop debate on fox was the most watched news program of all time.

Opinion noted.

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Don't care who wins this or the national election.

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@matthewparker: Because they all blow harder than a frickin' vacuum cleaner.

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None of them.

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@xwraith: what major issues of any of them do you disagree with

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I don't know who I'm voting for yet but sure ain't going to be Hillary or Biden....or probably most of these guys.

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Hilary.

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Rand Paul easily

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Trump gets so many Irony votes. But then becomes prez for double irony -_-

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Well if it was tomorrow I wouldn't vote. Since im too young.

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Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

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Bernie Sanders is the only real choice for president. And our votes don't matter anyway, silly citizens.

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They are all flawed in the usual republican ways. Anti gay marriage, wanting tax breaks for the rich, too aggressive in foreign policy, not believing in global warming, etc.

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Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

Wrong on all accounts. This "election" is more of a coronation, for Hilary. Trump doesn't have the first clue about politics and he isn't self-made, he inherited money from his rich dad.

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@petey_is_spidey said:

Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

Wrong on all accounts. This "election" is more of a coronation, for Hilary. Trump doesn't have the first clue about politics and he isn't self-made, he inherited money from his rich dad.

you are so misinformed. sad to see

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@rpgesus said:
@neonindian said:
@petey_is_spidey said:

Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

Wrong on all accounts. This "election" is more of a coronation, for Hilary. Trump doesn't have the first clue about politics and he isn't self-made, he inherited money from his rich dad.

you are so misinformed. sad to see

he's right about the trump part. probably right about the coronation too. these republican candidates are nutjobs. most of them anyway.

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@rpgesus said:
@neonindian said:
@petey_is_spidey said:

Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

Wrong on all accounts. This "election" is more of a coronation, for Hilary. Trump doesn't have the first clue about politics and he isn't self-made, he inherited money from his rich dad.

you are so misinformed. sad to see

he's right about the trump part. probably right about the coronation too. these republican candidates are nutjobs. most of them anyway.

dont know enough about trumps businesses to say one way or another. (not like it matters how he made his money anyway) and too say that hilary is a shoe in for president is just about the dumbest thing one could say. multiple scandals, horrible track record, dumb as hell, favorability polls for her are piss poor, even liberals hate her. so to think hilary will win is borderline delusional. Also who do you consider a nutjob and what dont you agree with from them

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Ned Flanders

or myabe Bush because I don't mind Trilogies

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I like Donald Trump, I'm too stupid to know who would make a great president, so I'm going to vote for an Entertainer in Chief!

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@rpgesus said:
@truth_teller said:
@rpgesus said:
@neonindian said:
@petey_is_spidey said:

Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

Wrong on all accounts. This "election" is more of a coronation, for Hilary. Trump doesn't have the first clue about politics and he isn't self-made, he inherited money from his rich dad.

you are so misinformed. sad to see

he's right about the trump part. probably right about the coronation too. these republican candidates are nutjobs. most of them anyway.

dont know enough about trumps businesses to say one way or another. (not like it matters how he made his money anyway) and too say that hilary is a shoe in for president is just about the dumbest thing one could say. multiple scandals, horrible track record, dumb as hell, favorability polls for her are piss poor, even liberals hate her. so to think hilary will win is borderline delusional. Also who do you consider a nutjob and what dont you agree with from them

Ok good, I was hoping you wouldnt fight me on whether trump is a self made rich guy or not cause i would have dumped some news articles real quick. most of them are crazies in the usual ways. i talked about some earlier. look up.

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@truth_teller said:
@rpgesus said:
@truth_teller said:
@rpgesus said:
@neonindian said:
@petey_is_spidey said:

Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

Wrong on all accounts. This "election" is more of a coronation, for Hilary. Trump doesn't have the first clue about politics and he isn't self-made, he inherited money from his rich dad.

you are so misinformed. sad to see

he's right about the trump part. probably right about the coronation too. these republican candidates are nutjobs. most of them anyway.

dont know enough about trumps businesses to say one way or another. (not like it matters how he made his money anyway) and too say that hilary is a shoe in for president is just about the dumbest thing one could say. multiple scandals, horrible track record, dumb as hell, favorability polls for her are piss poor, even liberals hate her. so to think hilary will win is borderline delusional. Also who do you consider a nutjob and what dont you agree with from them

Ok good, I was hoping you wouldnt fight me on whether trump is a self made rich guy or not cause i would have dumped some news articles real quick. most of them are crazies in the usual ways. i talked about some earlier. look up.

so you brought up gay marriage (which isnt even an issue anymore), climate change, which is clearly a natural occurrence and human influence is minimal, tough foreign policy (i guess you love a deballed military, the middle east to run wild and im sure you love the iran deal), and what candidates are cutting tax for the rich? do you mean flat taxes where everyone pays the same percentage, its pretty similar to a logical tax system. Your boy trumps tax plan last i saw was tax the rich at much higher rates than the poor.

the completely insane pussified socialists of the left are our best bet i guess

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@truth_teller: haha that's what makes them wrong? Did you even watch the debate last night? Honestly all if them would be better then any liberal candidate because at least they believe in protecting baby's and not murdering them like liberals do. But to answer the question I want Ben carson to win

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@rpgesus said:
@truth_teller said:
@rpgesus said:
@truth_teller said:
@rpgesus said:
@neonindian said:
@petey_is_spidey said:

Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

Wrong on all accounts. This "election" is more of a coronation, for Hilary. Trump doesn't have the first clue about politics and he isn't self-made, he inherited money from his rich dad.

you are so misinformed. sad to see

he's right about the trump part. probably right about the coronation too. these republican candidates are nutjobs. most of them anyway.

dont know enough about trumps businesses to say one way or another. (not like it matters how he made his money anyway) and too say that hilary is a shoe in for president is just about the dumbest thing one could say. multiple scandals, horrible track record, dumb as hell, favorability polls for her are piss poor, even liberals hate her. so to think hilary will win is borderline delusional. Also who do you consider a nutjob and what dont you agree with from them

Ok good, I was hoping you wouldnt fight me on whether trump is a self made rich guy or not cause i would have dumped some news articles real quick. most of them are crazies in the usual ways. i talked about some earlier. look up.

so you brought up gay marriage (which isnt even an issue anymore), climate change, which is clearly a natural occurrence and human influence is minimal, tough foreign policy (i guess you love a deballed military, the middle east to run wild and im sure you love the iran deal), and what candidates are cutting tax for the rich? do you mean flat taxes where everyone pays the same percentage, its pretty similar to a logical tax system. Your boy trumps tax plan last i saw was tax the rich at much higher rates than the poor.

the completely insane pussified socialists of the left is our best bet i guess

gay marriage is an issue. these crazies still dont like/want that stuff. I dont want someone llike that as president. climate change actually is heavily a human infulence as backed by tons and tons of scientific evidence. too tough foreign policy where they want to be the bullies everyone hates. The completely logical, reasonable, deomocrats that want to give democracy a try before bombing people might be our best bet, you're right.

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@truth_teller: haha that's what makes them wrong? Did you even watch the debate last night? Honestly all if them would be better then any liberal candidate because at least they believe in protecting baby's and not murdering them like liberals do. But to answer the question I want Ben carson to win

oh dont get me wrong, the republicans have much better ideas on a few subjects, being against abortion is one of them.

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@sophia89: I'm not conservative, I don't vote for someone based on how racist or insane they are. I like his brand of socialism.

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@petey_is_spidey said:

Yeah, Democratic party isn't winning, and don't be surprised if we have Trump as President (Which honestly isn't a bad idea for our economy and military. He is, after all, a self made billionaire business man.)

Wrong on all accounts. This "election" is more of a coronation, for Hilary. Trump doesn't have the first clue about politics and he isn't self-made, he inherited money from his rich dad.

Maybe I went a little far to call him self made. However, to say his success is all because of his father is laughable. Do you know how many people blow through an inheritance and/or lottery because they don't have a clue on how to use it? You don't turn a couple ten million dollars into multi-billions off of luck.

Also, Hillary is doing worse and worse in the polls, and if she continues on this rate she'll have no chance of winning. And Hillary has a background in polotics, but based off what she's said in the past she'll have no clue on how to run the country.

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@truth_teller: so the brilliant idea is to try to use logic and reason with a country being led by someone with these views. also democracy means A system of government in which power is vested in the people, who rule either directly or through freely elected representatives. but if you mean we should try to set up a democracy there then we already tried. if you mean we should use our system of democracy to choose our foreign policy then thats what will happen in this upcoming election. Also democracy is incompatible with islam. shown here

Question:

Is Islam compatible with democracy?

Summary Answer:

Islamic law is absolutely incompatible with democracy. It is a theocratic system with Allah alone at its head. Allah's law is interpreted by a ruling body of clerics. There is no room for a secular political system in which all people are treated as equals.

The Qur'an:

Quran (33:36) - "It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision."

Quran (18:26) - "Allah... makes none to share in His Decision and His Rule"

Quran (45:21) - "What! Do those who seek after evil ways think that We shall hold them equal with those who believe and do righteous deeds,- that equal will be their life and their death? Ill is the judgment that they make." Unbelievers are not equal to Muslims. This is dutifully reflected in Islamic law.

Quran (5:44) - "Whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed is among the disbelievers" This is one reason why terrorists openly fight for an Islamic state against democracy and secularism.

Quran (39:9) - "Are those who know equal to those who know not?"

Quran (4:141) - "...And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumphs) over the believers." This is at odds with democracy, which allows anyone to serve in a position of power over others regardless of religious belief.

Quran (63:8) - "...might (power) belongeth to Allah and to His messenger and to the believers;" ie. not to anyone else.

Quran (5:49) - "So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires, but beware of them lest they seduce thee from some part of that which Allah hath revealed unto thee" Allah's Qur'an takes priority over the desires of the people. A democratic nation is by nature one that is not governed by Islamic law, meaning that a Muslim citizen would have divided loyalty. It's clear from this verse which side he must choose.

Quran (12:40) - "...Allah hath sent down no authority: the command is for none but Allah..." Sometimes translated as "None have the right to legislate except Allah."

Quran (4:123) - "Not your desires, nor those of the People of the Book (can prevail): whoever works evil, will be requited accordingly. Nor will he find, besides Allah, any protector or helper."

Quran (4:59) - "O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you..." Obedience is strictly limited to a government drawn from believers, not from the broader community. This verse has also been used to justify submission to autocratic rule, however oppressive it may by. As an Arab tradition put is: "tyranny is better than anarchy."

Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and his messenger are free from obligation to the unbelievers..." Muhammad used this "revelation" to dissolve a standing treaty and chase non-Muslims from their homes if they wouldn't accept Islam. This practice would be incompatible with democratic rule, in which everyone is considered equal.

From the Hadith:

Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are polytheists [Christians...], invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them" Non-Muslims are intended to be subordinate to Muslims.

Bukhari (88:219) - "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."

Bukhari (89:251) - Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever obeys me, obeys Allah, and whoever disobeys me, disobeys Allah, and whoever obeys the ruler I appoint, obeys me, and whoever disobeys him, disobeys me." The ruler referred to here is the Caliph, who is appointed by Allah, not by popular election. Democratic rule has no legitimacy against the will of the Caliph who, as we see by chain of reference, has the authority of Allah.

At-Tirmidhi 169) - There is no obedience to anyone who is in disobedience to Allah

Additional Notes:

To quote the 20th century cleric, Sayyid Qutb, "It is Allah and not man who rules. Allah is the source of all authority, including legitimate political authority. Virtue, not freedom, is the highest value. Therefore, Allah's law, not man's, should govern the society."

Islamic law is based on the Qur'an and the Sunnah, which are set and fixed. There is no need for addition or correction. Neither is there any room for the law of fallible man (particularly non-Muslims). Nor should it take the place of Allah's perfect law, which tells a man everything he needs to know about daily life (down to which hand he should "hold it in" while urinating).

If Allah is not the authority then anything less is a secular dictatorship, including rule by the Muslim people. As an American-Muslim jurist complained in a recent fatwa, "democracy gives free reign to the authority of the Ummah, and puts no ceiling on it."

Also, the law of one person, one vote is essential to democracy, but heretical to Islam. According to the Qur'an, the testimony of a woman is worth only half that of a man, and Jews and Christians are never to have equal standing with Muslims under the law (and certainly never in a position of authority over Muslims). Atheists are to be killed outright.

Reform-minded Muslims prefer to ignore all of this and instead point to Qur'an (42:38), where the phrase "[Muslims] who (conduct) their affairs by mutual consultation" is used as evidence that Islam is compatible with democracy. Also recruited to this end is an oft-repeated hadith that has Muhammad saying, "My community will never agree on an error." On this is based the much ballyhooed concept of "ijma" or consensus among Muslims for determining matters of Islamic law.

But ijma, has always been controversial and rarely practiced within Islam. Some interpret it to mean "consensus of the scholars" - having nothing to do with the opinion of the community at large. Even when its legitimacy is recognized, ijma is accepted only as a secondary (or tertiary) form of authority, behind the fiqh councils. Also, it bears pointing out that ijma and consultation are applicable only within the Muslim community (and probably limited to the "consensus" of males).

American scholar Jamal Badawi (who is often billed as a 'moderate') says that it is the duty of Muslims to bring about Islamic rule: "The Qur’an is full of direct and indirect, implicit and many times explicit indications that show that the establishment of the Islamic order is a requirement on Muslims whenever possible." He also scoffs at secularism: “If a Muslim believes that there is any human being who has the right to make laws other than Allah then obviously this is total divergence from the path of Islam. Or any person who believes that secularism is superior to the law of Allah, he's violating the basic Quranic tenets"

Muhammad ruled on Allah's authority and did not submit his decisions to the will of the people. Neither is there any tradition of democracy in the 1400 year history of Islam in the Middle East and Persia. If the entire world became Muslim overnight, it is highly doubtful that democracy would last, since it would be applicable only to the most mundane of matters not already decided by Islamic law.

Rouhani: ‘Death to America’:

Rouhani, boasting of duping the West on the nuclear issue:

  • Rouhani, who was Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator with Europe for two years (2003-2005), “proudly admitted that he successfully bought time to advance nuclear technology while the EU leaders were busy in negotiations with him.” (The Telegraph)

Rouhani, supporter of terror abroad:

Rouhani, supporter of terror and repression at home:

  • Rouhani (as head of the Islamic National Security Council) had a major role in the violent crackdown on a 1999 student uprising against the Islamist regime, and said, at a pro-regime rally in July that year: “At dusk yesterday we received a decisive revolutionary order to crush mercilessly and monumentally any move of these opportunist elements wherever it may occur.” (The Wall Street Journal)
  • Rouhani’s current pick for Justice Minister, Mostafa Pour-Mohammadi, has been criticized by human rights groups for his role in the summary executions of thousands of Iranian political prisoners in 1988, the assassination of political figures abroad, and the 1998 killings of intellectuals inside the country while he was a director at the Intelligence Ministry. – Al Monitor and Radio Free Europe

*rouhani is the new president of iran, their previous one was much worse if you can believe it.

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@sophia89: I'm not conservative, I don't vote for someone based on how racist or insane they are. I like his brand of socialism.

you are truly the problem with america, but i will not be discouraged i will continue to try and save your children and grandkids from the horrible oppressive government that you liberals seem so desperate to implement