I wore a shirt to school today and was forced to cover it up; should I have been censored?

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Poll I wore a shirt to school today and was forced to cover it up; should I have been censored? (59 votes)

Yes 46%
No 42%
Results 12%

I wore a shirt that said "Hillary Sucks But Not Like Monica" and there was a complaint, so I was escorted to the main office, where I was forced to put my sweatshirt on for the rest of the day. The Vice Principal compared it to Tinker v. Des Moines and the black arm-band protest of the 1960s to silently combat the Vietnam war. He said what I did was a little worse and therefore censored me.

Should I have been censored, yes or no?

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I dunno, what are your schools rules? Do they have any rules about wearing anything that might offend somebody?

If so then you shouldn't wear it technically. If not then I guess you can wear it.

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#2  Edited By depinhom

@jaycool2: But I know that no one would care at all about the sexual innuendo if it was anti-Trump or not political at all. No one cares about that, especially when girls are basically showing off their asses daily.

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@depinhom said:

@jaycool2: But I know that no one would care at all about the sexual innuendo if it was anti-Trump or not political at all. No one cares about that, especially when girls are basically showing off their asses daily.

Oh, OK then. Just curious as don't know the school rules of you Americans, not sure how they compare to Canadian school rules.

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@depinhom: funny thing is, bill Clinton prolly said some shit like that. You should have told your vp not to censor the truth

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while I don't think it should be censored and I'm not sure exactly on things related to this as my school had a uniform policy from 5th grade up till high school as the entire county was doing it.

Anyway it wasn't the fact that it was anti-trump its more along the lines that it could be considered offensive due to sexual innuendos along with if taking it to the extreme degradation of women. So honestly I'm made from tougher stuff and don't get offended easily I can see why you were asked to cover it up.

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That shirt probably would have been covered in my high school well when I was in high school a couple of years ago. But frankly I think that shirt would have hilarious.

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I'm willing to bet it had more to do with the Monica line.

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@seagod said:

while I don't think it should be censored and I'm not sure exactly on things related to this as my school had a uniform policy from 5th grade up till high school as the entire county was doing it.

Anyway it wasn't the fact that it was anti-trump its more along the lines that it could be considered offensive due to sexual innuendos along with if taking it to the extreme degradation of women. So honestly I'm made from tougher stuff and don't get offended easily I can see why you were asked to cover it up.

"Degradation of women"? Really?

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I'm willing to bet it had more to do with the Monica line.

Of course. What I am saying is that if the shirt was anti-Trump and had a sexual innuendo, it would have been fine. Or at least, no one would have complained. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I know my school pretty well.

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@depinhom: yeah like I said to the extreme and the way society is right now where every little thing is offensive a shirt that insults two women will cause issues.

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#11  Edited By micah007123

Yes. It's inevitably just going to start a fight, not worth the effort imo.

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It had sexual content on it so yes it should have. If it just said Hillary sucked then you should have been able to wear it

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It had sexual content on it so yes it should have. If it just said Hillary sucked then you should have been able to wear it

It did not have "sexual content".

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Yes, you shouldn't have worn that.

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#15  Edited By comicace3

If it doesn't follow the school code then yeah it should've been covered up. I remember wearing something with Beer on it and was asked not to wear it again or at least cover it up.

Edit: The tinker v De Moines case had to do more with a silent protest against the vietnam war. What were you fighting for exactly?

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@depinhom said:
@beast_mode999 said:

It had sexual content on it so yes it should have. If it just said Hillary sucked then you should have been able to wear it

It did not have "sexual content".

Uh yeah. It had to do with Monica sucking Bill's D. That's pretty sexual if you ask me.

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Yeah, that's not appropriate for school.

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@depinhom said:
@beast_mode999 said:

It had sexual content on it so yes it should have. If it just said Hillary sucked then you should have been able to wear it

It did not have "sexual content".

Uh yeah. It had to do with Monica sucking Bill's D. That's pretty sexual if you ask me.

It had a sexual innuendo. Sexual content refers to a graphic picture or something.

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Yes in my opinion.

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It's the sexual innuendo that got you censored, not political views (which is tacky as hell anyway).

I had a shirt that said, and in very small letters around a design I should add, 'the world spreads it's legs for another star" and had to flip it in high school. And that was 18 years ago. There's no way they aren't more strict now.

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#22  Edited By Thekillerklok

eh, americans are weird about sexual innuendo, clearly you need to protect those high schoolers from the terrifying sex joke.

and this may not entirely be the schools fault, there are some frankly draconian rules/laws about the handling of such complaints in some places.

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Would I personally have a problem with it? No. Would I ban it? Yeah.

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As a dad, I won't mind if you are in college. I would be if you are still in School...

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@depinhom said:
@comicace3 said:
@depinhom said:
@beast_mode999 said:

It had sexual content on it so yes it should have. If it just said Hillary sucked then you should have been able to wear it

It did not have "sexual content".

Uh yeah. It had to do with Monica sucking Bill's D. That's pretty sexual if you ask me.

It had a sexual innuendo. Sexual content refers to a graphic picture or something.

That "something" includes things like sexual language, which your shirt had. It's cool that your school only made you wear a sweatshirt over it, my school would've sent us home or do ISS.

Kind of curious the election was around 7 months ago, why did you wait so long to wear the shirt to school?

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@sineyaprime: Just got it.

Plus, it's only dirty if you make it dirty. For all the VP knows, I might not even have realized that the shirt could be interpreted like that.

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Yeah, the shirt is inappropriate.

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Yes. I don't care that you were making an anti-Hillary statement (I myself hate Hillary very much) but that is just gross.

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@depinhom said:

@sineyaprime: Just got it.

Plus, it's only dirty if you make it dirty. For all the VP knows, I might not even have realized that the shirt could be interpreted like that.

Nah, that's flimsy excuse. It's explicitly referencing a sexual act, and even if you weren't aware of it, which c'mon, it's still inappropriate. Since you mentioned it, I sincerely doubt it's an anti-Trump thing.

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@sineyaprime: But what I am saying is that I know my school well enough to know that if the shirt was sexual and not political, the student who complained would not have done so.

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Yeah. It's in the school's best interest to keep students from wearing distracting/disruptive clothing. Something with a sexual innuendo, coupled with a very polarizing political stance only invites challenge. To some people, you might have well have been wearing a shirt that said, "F*&^ You"

School and politics don't tend to mix well.

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#35  Edited By sineyaprime

@depinhom said:

@sineyaprime: But what I am saying is that I know my school well enough to know that if the shirt was sexual and not political, the student who complained would not have done so.

If you know the person who complained, I'll take your word for it. All I'm saying is that your VP had good reason to "censor" your shirt since it's inappropriate for school.

On the bright side, Summer's almost here and you'll be free to wear it as much as you want.

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actually while we are on the subject, who the hell is monica?

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That wouldve never flown at my school.

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#38  Edited By sineyaprime

@jaycool2 said:

actually while we are on the subject, who the hell is monica?

A woman who worked in the White House and had an affair with Bill Clinton during his presidency, and then became a Jenny Craig spokeswoman and anti-bullying activist.

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@sineyaprime: Oh... then yeah I guess the OP should not have worn it. Then again I do not understand the American Education system.

This would not have went down well in my school.

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@sophia89 said:
@jaycool2 said:

actually while we are on the subject, who the hell is monica?

A woman that worked for Bill Clinton, and is famous for sucking his dick. She and Bill made the Oval office into the Oral office. Hehe.

Best joke I've heard in awhile.

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If I saw that shirt title I would've laughed for a solid minute or two.

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@depinhom said:
@righteous300 said:

I'm willing to bet it had more to do with the Monica line.

Of course. What I am saying is that if the shirt was anti-Trump and had a sexual innuendo, it would have been fine. Or at least, no one would have complained. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I know my school pretty well.

You should go into school politics, start a group talking about censorship in Schools and University and Oppression and Freedom of Speech Across the World. I agree there may be rules to follow in State and public schools where things do not offend but schools should also be places of debate. Once people start censoring it becomes a slippery slope, it usually does not end well and today people in Germany can be fined for posts on facebook or be thrown in jail for criticizing the jihadi islamic waves among the refugees, people are jailed and beat in S.America and Africa, in Iran and S.Arabia women can be killed for all kinds of stupid reasons by the government.

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#44  Edited By Cliffhangers

@sineyaprime said:
@jaycool2 said:

actually while we are on the subject, who the hell is monica?

A woman who worked in the White House and had an affair with Bill Clinton during his presidency, and then became a Jenny Craig spokeswoman and anti-bullying activist.

He also started a war against the Serbs in the Balkans to distract from the 'blowjob' scandal at home. Not saying the Serbs were innocent, Milosevic was a dictator but Clinton and the Saudi backed the radical Albanian muslims against Serbians just like Reagan had supported Afghan jihadis against the USSR, these same peoples would later form the Taliban and have involvement in the 911 attacks, also many ISIS groups growing now in balkans Eastern Europe

politics is a disgusting business

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#45  Edited By Unusual_Suspect

Test it out. Wear a shirt that is anti-Trump and has similar sexual innuendo (the Grab them by the Pussy shirt above seems roughly analogous in scope).

If they complain, it wasn't the leaning of the politics of the shirt, but the sexual innuendo involved.

If they don't complain, approach the VP anyway. Ask him if the shirt is appropriate for school (You being the model student you no doubt are, want to be appropriate in your attire, so you obviously took that step to ensure you aren't distacting your fellow students - what a guy!) and determine whether you have to change it.

Or continue hypothesizing about being persecuted for your beliefs based on nothing but suspicion without testing to see if you're actually correct or just want to feel persecuted. Either way.

Edit: for the record? I'm generally against censorship, and so I voted "No." I'd have to actually review to case law to see if what they did was constitutionally permissible (a separate question from whether you SHOULD have been censored - a question of what should be versus what is allowed by law), but there's a strong chance it was (minors tend to have much more restricted rights compared to most).

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@righteous300 said:

I'm willing to bet it had more to do with the Monica line.

Of course. What I am saying is that if the shirt was anti-Trump and had a sexual innuendo, it would have been fine. Or at least, no one would have complained. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I know my school pretty well.

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Yes. It's inevitably just going to start a fight, not worth the effort imo.

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@jaycool2 said:
@sophia89 said:
@jaycool2 said:

actually while we are on the subject, who the hell is monica?

A woman that worked for Bill Clinton, and is famous for sucking his dick. She and Bill made the Oval office into the Oral office. Hehe.

Best joke I've heard in awhile.

That's amazing.

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If it's middle school or high school, then I guess they were right to make you cover it. You've crossed the line. If this is a university or college, then that's crossing the line in my eyes. Unless the school has a specific rule that limits stuff like that on a shirt, then I guess they can make you cover it. But really it shouldn't be a problem, since there's nothing but adults on campus who should be mature enough to tolerate a shirt.

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@depinhom said:
@righteous300 said:

I'm willing to bet it had more to do with the Monica line.

Of course. What I am saying is that if the shirt was anti-Trump and had a sexual innuendo, it would have been fine. Or at least, no one would have complained. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I know my school pretty well.

Apparently not that well...

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