How do you feel about pedophiles who don’t act on their sexual desires for moral reasons?

As someone who's taking up Psychology currently in university and admires psychological theorists like Carl R. Rogers and Alfred Adler, make said people counsel with a psychologist. Maybe said pedophilia feelings could still be remedied. Get to the root cause of the problem and reform said people.

No need to for violence to happen while the problem could still be dealt without anyone getting hurt.

As long as such things remain in their heads, everything should be just fine.

I don’t think those people can ever be cured or helped, but so long as they don’t act on their desires, I have no problem with them.

If they are open about it and seeking help before they commit anything then I would pat them on the back.

It's still a mental disorder, but if they manage to seek help without acting on the thoughts, they deserve a fair shake

They need help.

Thoughts are harmless. No human being in history has ever been hurt via a thought.

As long as they never act upon those thoughts, I don't care, they should be given the mental health treatment they need, not marginalized.

That's fine. But I'm not leaving my children alone with them... Just for precaution.

I have no ill will towards them so long as they don't act on it. I still think they need help tho.

Covered this at university in psychology. A lot of pedophiles don't act on their urges as they know it is wrong. But they basically have a mental disorder where they are just biologically attracted to children it's basically their sexuality, the same way hetero people are attracted to the opposite sex and homosexuals are attracted to the same sex. It's not their fault that they have the disorder they just need help. Obviously if they act on their urges they should be punished because it is very clear that it is disgusting and wrong but a lot don't and they should be able to get help.

The fact that everyone demonises them makes it worse for them to get help as who wants to admit to anyone, even medical practitioners that they're a pedophile. We're all guilty of the demonisation and stigmatisation though mainly because we all just think it's disgusting anyone could be that way, but more should be done to help them and that way more children are protected from any of them acting on their urges.

But then if it is in fact their sexuality maybe it can't be helped it'd be like trying to help a straight person not being attracted to the opposite sex, idk I haven't researched it enough.

As long as they do not act them out, I still have some problems depending on the extend of it. I mean I would not feel comfortable leaving him or her with childrem by themselves. I would not condemmed them, but I be lying if I said in the back of mind I think they are disgusting. But as long as they do not act on those urges,they should be fine. Maybe get help if they feel is necessary. Because having thoughts and urges is not a crime, and if getting psychological help prevent them from commiting those urges, they should definetely seek it out.

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Good on you. Still not letting you babysit.

They should remain that way, and definitely gets therapy, if not then we have to remove them

The thing is people who are pedophiles have expressed that they would have never acted on those thoughts if they didnt feel so isolated and alone until the feeling was overwhelming and crippling. I know people feel the urge to condemn them but giving them the help they need is most important

I don't mind a pedophile so long as they're not also a rapist and/or molester. Mental illness isn't an excuse for traumatizing a child, those peoples pee pees should be put in meat grinder

As long as they keep it in their heads, don't act on it, not be around kids, and seek necessary medical help rather than others attempts to beat around the bush with stored anger to the point of losing it or start violence when the molestation hasn't ever happened. Not saying its an effective solution, but treatments must be made rather than left alone till something happens.

Won't condone or agree with their tastes but as long as they arent hurting anyone, I can tolerate them.

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I think it's as much of a "mental disorder" as it is being gay. You can call it however you want, but keep in mind that sexual attraction is something completely involuntary, and as such, we have no right to judge someone over it. If we do are to judge somebody over something, it should be over their INDIVIDUAL actions, and not those of the group of people who share something in common with them.

And honestly lets reflect on something now; if even TODAY, we have this many gay people "hiding in the closet", how many actual pedophiles do you think exist over the world that aren't acting on it? My guess is many, most likely it's the vast majority of them. Just look at all that "lolicon" stuff in japan and tell me 1) where does it comes from? and 2) why so many people like it.

I don't like any form of hypocrisy or generalization, and try to never let my emotions cloud my judgement. The problem with pedohiles is not that they're inherently bad, but that unlike most other forms of sexual deviation, they can never act upon it. This would not be a problem however, if we as a society would recognize them, and allow them to come forth without fear of being persecuted, to receive the appropriate training, instructions and support they SHOULD receive by society, as they are different and need to be treated accordingly; reasonably and fairly.

I don't find that's the case for many of them. Some can indeed just deal with it without professional help. I'm aware they can either just control their urges or quench their urges without actually molesting children such as through lolicon (then again, not all its admirers are true pedophiles) and specially designed sex dolls...

So will female pedophiles be tossed in it entirely lol?

You're definitely on the right track regarding pedophiles in the closet. I recall reading something along those lines where they won't ever mention their sexual tastes due to how stigmatized they are due to the common mistake of synonymizing pedophile with child molester/predator.

As for lolicon, I don't believe that pedophilia is always the case for its admirers as I'm aware some are not sexually attracted to children IRL. Plus I'd consider lolicon quite distinct from real life children.

I find pedophiles should still be grant the option of whether or not they desire "treatment." Some can live and deal with it without any malice.

I'm in agreement with your post overall as you can see. I just like to add upon it.

All of you saying its a mental illness or disorder, do you consider beeing gay the same?

@Jillsonsvel: I know most of them at least have to consider being transgendered and gender non-conformity in general as mental illnesses/disorders.

Basically “whatever I think is gross and too weird” = mental illness/disorder to these folks.

As long as they don't act on it, and get some help(medical, psychological, etc.), I don't mind them.

I feel they can be cured, but I do agree with the last part.

@fitnesstribesman13: that's cool, i like that someone else also shares this opinion!

There is one thing on which we may differ; although i believe that most of them can fully control their impulses, there is definitely reason to assume that other pedophiles won't be able to do the same, and we really can't risk it, right? So, i think the best solution would be to ask ALL pedophiles to reveal their condition (privately) to an institution; one that will make sure all of them receive the proper training they need in order to control their urges. I think this should be mandatory, but after a standard psychological evaluation, and a training course, they should otherwise be free to simply be trusted, and not bound to receive any more additional support, if they choose so.

Theoretically, if a man/woman is sexually attracted to children/teenagers, but never do they once in their lives succumb to their temptations, it would probably be in their best interest to be as discreet as possible when imploring for help.

The stigma that comes with it can never be washed away, a Pedophile happens to live in my street, people became aware of him when he approached a 13 year old girl, confessing his fondness for her. He was consequently beaten, chastised and exiled from the community , he was sent to a psychiatric asylum and stayed there for like 5 years. He has been out for almost 3 years now, I rarely see him leave his house, he is probably afraid of confrontations.

So pretty much, even if they never did anything wrong(i.e child pornography), never tried to solicit a minor, they would still suffer the same consequences minus jail time, if they were to seek help openly.

Mind you, like most here, I can't really bring myself to be a hypocrite, I would act in the exact same manner as the society usually does, if a closet pedophile were to live nearby, I would not want him near me or my family, it is downright creepy and NO ONE can guarantee you and I really mean NO ONE, that said person wouldn't give in to his desires.

I think they should be sacrificed, there is no real point in taking risks, but it should be an instant death without suffering.

I mean, putting a child's safety on risk, because of beliefs, hopes or hunches? the exchange within the matter, is unbalanced and the only thing which can solve it, is instant death without pain.

Castration

That worsens the whole situation, it creates resentment while promoting vengeance and there are different ways in order to rape a person.

having spent some time on early internet anon boards I can tell you that most I have interacted with would sooner commit suicide then actually harm anyone. Often they are really depressed because they simply have zero options for a relationship and loneliness is the enemy of all humans we are weak social creatures.

They are demonized to the point that if they tried to get help they would be outed and that's suicide.

Not only that but often their outlets such as 2d lolicon or creepy doll things are often heavily censored /persecuted.

It's kind of like society is like "Oh hey pedo don't get your release fapping to fake things be unhappy and repressed to the point you do something unhappy."

That said there is a small very dangerous percentage of them... that are sociopaths that each need to be locked away.

The harsher the punishment the more likely the rapist is going to murder their victim to cover their tracks. I question the societal good or harm of such anger driven policies.

People choose revenge at the cost of an increased loss of life because morality... Short sighted emotional driven responses are a failing of humanity.

I would never risk with something like this, just imprison them somewhere or kill them all.

........ You're joking, right?

@batman242: Nope.

Why should they be imprisoned or killed if they haven't committed a crime?

@batman242: Because they are a time bomb, i would never risk the sake of any children and hope that the morality of the pedophile will never fade.

How do you know that? You don't even know how many people presently have pedophilic thoughts and do not act on them. Hell, there are even some that acknowledge the fact that they have such thoughts and seek help. Should those who seek help also be imprisoned or killed just because of something they might do?

You're proposing literal thought policing and that has way more negative outcomes than any good you could possibly envision. People aren't guilty until they commit the actual criminal act of pedophilia.

I'm sorry, but your thought process is quite asinine because you're suggesting we prosecute literal innocent people. It's things like this that made me put my status up on my profile;

"What you believe should not affect someone else's reality."

@batman242: Because it's already happened, pedophiles that were cured still assaulted abused and killed childern, killing them would have prevented that. yes, i think that the thought of abusing childern is something to punish feel free to think something different.

yeah that's the kind of logic we should get rid of; emotional, and based on fear, generalizations, and then prejudice. That's the same pattern followed by racists and other such fools. Humanity can do better.

Just keep them out of my neighborhood

@jonjizz: Nah, i concede that the reasoning is similar but the reasons are not, racist are stupid people and base their beliefes on nothing, pedophiles by their own nature are attracted to children you can't change that, is not fear or generalization or even a prejudice it's reality, if you want to risk the safety of the children to try and cure these people feel free to do that, i would never take such risk.

pedophiles that were cured

Pedophilia can't be cured. It's not a mental illness, and I wonder how the OP came to that conclusion.

still assaulted abused and killed childern, killing them would have prevented that.

Killing 'them'? Who is 'them'? People that actually committed a crime, correct? You're using people that have committed a crime to justify murder of innocent people. There's no getting around that. I don't know how you think it's a good idea to prosecute someone that hasn't done anything wrong. Should we also prosecute people that have homicidal thoughts or homosexual thoughts

i think that the thought of abusing childern is something to punish feel free to think something different.

Yes, I think you're an idiot. If you can't understand that people are innocent until they commit a crime and not just think about doing it and you feel as though they should be prosecuted or killed for a simple thought, then many people across the globe will be indicted all because of something they thought of. That's not how justice works. Thank goodness we don't live under your totalitarian regime.

@batman242: No need to insult me boy, you would be safe under my regime.

By ur logic, any people who has serious anger issues should killed coz they are ticking bomb?

Pedophilia is essentially a mental disorder which, like any other mental disorder,

I never knew it was a mental disorder. Well in that case they should be helped not blamed. Although they should be observed. Or institutionalized that is just my opinion.