In china it is legal and most of our fur in the shops come from china, so most of the fur we see on jackets and stuff are being produced in the exact same way.
Thats True... but I would like to bust these dudes upside the head"
I think the problem is if someone is doing something wrong and they never learned how wrong it is...they are going to keep doing it.Most people who sell fur ain't gonna kill the Raccoon dogs themselves so they pick the people who don't know any better to do it.
i dont care i would beat the hell out of those guys even if it was legal and if cops where they lived try to take me in i rather take a bullet because i bet their jails are probaly horrible
"i dont care i would beat the hell out of those guys even if it was legal and if cops where they lived try to take me in i rather take a bullet because i bet their jails are probaly horrible"
So people are supposed to know what not to do if they are never told.
How do you know that what they are doing isn't the only way the can make money so they can eat?
Thats True... but I would like to bust these dudes upside the head"
I think the problem is if someone is doing something wrong and they never learned how wrong it is...they are going to keep doing it.Most people who sell fur ain't gonna kill the Raccoon dogs themselves so they pick the people who don't know any better to do it."
Damn... the lil raccoon dog is still alive after being skinned, I mean seriously that's wrong. what kind of pain does that animal have to feel, having all its skin literally pulled off and its tendons cut and any links between its skin and flesh sliced and it was even cut around the eyes so you can see it blink and its head move after it was skinned. and they just walked past it. they could of sliced its neck when they skinned it but no they had to be extra and let it live a slow and long death. No ones so ignorant not to know that is wrong, i bet they think animals dont feel pain or something. just because their not human doesnt mean they deserve to suffer, thats cold man.
"i dont care i would beat the hell out of those guys even if it was legal and if cops where they lived try to take me in i rather take a bullet because i bet their jails are probaly horrible"
So people are supposed to know what not to do if they are never told.
How do you know that what they are doing isn't the only way the can make money so they can eat?
Oh my gawd, one of them was still alive and struggling when he skinned it!
I don't think one needs to be "taught" that that is cruel and inhumane. I grew up in a hunting culture, and anyone with half a brain in their head and half a heart in their chest know you make sure A. you kill the animal immediately, and B. you make damn sure it is dead before you do anything to it.
There simply is no excuse for what is being done in this recording. This is sadistic cruelty and I hope karma comes back around to these people and is a real bitch when she does.
"Oh my gawd, one of them was still alive and struggling when he skinned it!
I don't think one needs to be "taught" that that is cruel and inhumane. I grew up in a hunting culture, and anyone with half a brain in their head and half a heart in their chest know you make sure A. you kill the animal immediately, and B. you make damn sure it is dead before you do anything to it.
There simply is no excuse for what is being done on this recording. This is sadistic cruelty and I hope karma comes back and is a real bitch.
Or they burn in hell, whichever one believes."
I'm pretty sure people do need to be taught that killing animals is wrong and inhumane alot of little kids do it because they don't get it.They don't see animals as being as important as people.
There could be several excuses for what is going on in that video.It's possible the people in the video sell fur for money..No fur...no money..no food...no life.It's possible that the methods used is because of lack of equipment..When we want beef we send Cows to the slaughterhouse...we don't go out in the fields and beat them to death with weapons and out bare hands...nobody does manual labor if they don't have to.
"Oh my gawd, one of them was still alive and struggling when he skinned it!
I don't think one needs to be "taught" that that is cruel and inhumane. I grew up in a hunting culture, and anyone with half a brain in their head and half a heart in their chest know you make sure A. you kill the animal immediately, and B. you make damn sure it is dead before you do anything to it.
There simply is no excuse for what is being done on this recording. This is sadistic cruelty and I hope karma comes back and is a real bitch.
Or they burn in hell, whichever one believes."
I'm pretty sure people do need to be taught that killing animals is wrong and inhumane alot of little kids do it because they don't get it.They don't see animals as being as important as people.
There could be several excuses for what is going on in that video.It's possible the people in the video sell fur for money..No fur...no money..no food...no life.It's possible that the methods used is because of lack of equipment..When we want beef we send Cows to the slaughterhouse...we don't go out in the fields and beat them to death with weapons and out bare hands...nobody does manual labor if they don't have to.
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You've missed the point.
I don't care if these people are making their living killing raccoons. I know several families that the only meat their family gets over the winter is whatever their father (or mother, or kids, etc) can hunt, kill, and freeze. And raccoons are not an endangered species, in fact they are one of the few species whose ranges are expanding.
But this is abject cruelty. They did not need to leave the animal still alive while the cut off their legs and ripped their skin off. They could have ensured the raccoons were dead first. At least one of these obviously was not. I mean seriously, how long would it have taken for the guy to put the obviously struggling raccoon down and beat it's brain's in before he ripped it's skin off?
It's not the fact that raccoons are being killed, it's that they are being tortured.
"Oh my gawd, one of them was still alive and struggling when he skinned it!
I don't think one needs to be "taught" that that is cruel and inhumane. I grew up in a hunting culture, and anyone with half a brain in their head and half a heart in their chest know you make sure A. you kill the animal immediately, and B. you make damn sure it is dead before you do anything to it.
There simply is no excuse for what is being done on this recording. This is sadistic cruelty and I hope karma comes back and is a real bitch.
Or they burn in hell, whichever one believes."
I'm pretty sure people do need to be taught that killing animals is wrong and inhumane alot of little kids do it because they don't get it.They don't see animals as being as important as people.
There could be several excuses for what is going on in that video.It's possible the people in the video sell fur for money..No fur...no money..no food...no life.It's possible that the methods used is because of lack of equipment..When we want beef we send Cows to the slaughterhouse...we don't go out in the fields and beat them to death with weapons and out bare hands...nobody does manual labor if they don't have to.
"
You've missed the point.
I don't care if these people are making their living killing raccoons. I know several families that the only meat their family gets over the winter is whatever their father (or mother, or kids, etc) can hunt, kill, and freeze. And raccoons are not an endangered species, in fact they are one of the few species whose ranges are expanding.
But this is abject cruelty. They did not need to leave the animal still alive while the cut off their legs and ripped their skin off. They could have ensured the raccoons were dead first. At least one of these obviously was not. I mean seriously, how long would it have taken for the guy to put the obviously struggling raccoon down and beat it's brain's in before he ripped it's skin off?
It's not the fact that raccoons are being killed, it's that they are being tortured.
There is no excuse for it."
I'm sure slamming them on the ground was supposed to kill them...I'm not trying to justify this because it's wrong but i'm saying I don't think it's cruel and less we know for certain they didn't mean to kill them before they skinned them in the first place.That last one they all weren't alive when they were skinned.
I don't care what was "supposed to kill them" (and slamming an arboreal animal as tough as a raccoon against the ground is not going to do that, hence the reason they were clubbing them afterwards). One of them was obviously still alive and the animal should have been dispatched before they cut off it's legs and ripped it skin off.
You can rationalize all you want, but this is not "making a living". I know too many people who make a living off of killing animals (pr at least they rely on it for meat) and this is NOT how they operate. This is animal cruelty.
"I don't care what was "supposed to kill them" (and slamming an arboreal animal as tough as a raccoon against the ground is not going to do that, hence the reason they were clubbing them afterwards). One of them was obviously still alive and the animal should have been dispatched before they cut off it's legs and ripped it skin off.
You can rationalize all you want, but this is not "making a living". I know too many people who make off of killing animals and this is NOT how they operate. This is animal cruelty.
The one that is struggling while being skinned? Trying to bite the guys hand that is holding him? That one is alive and is quite aware of what was happening to it, even after it's skin was ripped off.
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