Higher taxes or lower taxes?

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Poll Higher taxes or lower taxes? (40 votes)

Higher taxes 18%
Lower taxes 83%

Question is simple. Discuss below.

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Lower taxes.

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Why would anybody want Higher Taxes ?

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Why would anybody want Higher Taxes ?

IDK. Maybe to support the welfare state? Single motherhood is on the rise and illegal immigration has been running rampant ever since Biden got elected. After all someone has to pay for their lifestyle.

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Lower taxes = more investments = more jobs = better economy = happier people.

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Everyone should pay 75% of their wage to tax.

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@kgb725 said:

@happylife1996: Raising minimum wage = more jobs

Not true, or, not true in the way you want it to be.

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@king_saturn said:

Why would anybody want Higher Taxes ?

IDK. Maybe to support the welfare state? Single motherhood is on the rise and illegal immigration has been running rampant ever since Biden got elected. After all someone has to pay for their lifestyle.

Gee golly wizz, Biden must be a real screw up to do all that in 3 months or so/s

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@faradaysloth: Have you noticed how lower paying jobs have bumped up their pay in recent months because people don't want to work for chump change after getting that 600 a week ?

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Lower taxes to pay for things that are actually needed instead of wiping other peoples' asses like we do now, I'll never understand the people who want higher taxes when it's not needed.

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what? No one want's higher taxes. And how, just how. Did Biden single handedly raise single motherhood in 3 months without making any moves on that?? And hey, even if he did, not as bad as putting kids in a cage.

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Lower taxes.

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@kgb725 said:

@faradaysloth: Have you noticed how lower paying jobs have bumped up their pay in recent months because people don't want to work for chump change after getting that 600 a week ?

I don't need to, but thanks for your input.

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Taxes are always going to be a thing since the government has to do stuff. Depends on who has the larger burden (poor vs rich) and what the taxes are being used for.

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@kgb725: no I don’t need to, especially if it’s anecdotal evidence.

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Lower

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Why the hell would anyone want higher tax? How is this even a question?

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Higher unironically

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Like any investment it depends what you're getting out of them.

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@lunacyde said:

Like any investment it depends what you're getting out of them.

Tell me, are you more conscientious of your spending or are you more careful when someone else is footing the bill? Most people are far more conscientious with their own money than someone else's. People take better care of their stuff than they do the "collective's" stuff.

From justfactsdaily.com -

A study published by the European Central Bank in 2016 found that European nations with greater levels of "welfare state spending" had higher levels of "wealth inequality." This is because "social services provided by the state are substitutes for private wealth accumulation," and when governments provide more welfare benefits, "there is less need for relatively poor households to hold precautionary savings, and more income might be used for consumption purposes." Social programs like Social Security have similar effects because the taxes used to fund these programs hinder people's ability to save, and the expectation of benefits reduces their incentive to save. For example, a study published by the University of Chicago Press found that Social Security raises wealth inequality by about 20% and leaves lower-income households with "less to save, less reason to save, and a larger share of their old-age resources" in a form they cannot pass along to their heirs.

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This is one of the funniest threads I've seen on CV.

Many people want higher taxes. They vote politicians in who will raise them all the time. Anyone want to let those who ask the question "who would want higher taxes?" just which party those politicians are affiliated with?

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#27  Edited By JaylinFreeman

I think this poll is missing clarity, and context.

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@kgb725 said:

@faradaysloth: Have you noticed how lower paying jobs have bumped up their pay in recent months because people don't want to work for chump change after getting that 600 a week ?

Raising minimum wage =/= more jobs.

In your example, job is already created (we are not adding new job)

it's just that nobody wants to work because they do not need to.

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This question is useless in a vacuum. It depends entirely on what level taxes are already at in this scenario, who's taxes are being raised/lowered(everyone's? Just the highest bracket?) and what said taxes are being used for.

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@mimisalome: Why would we need more jobs ? Most people don't work in a specific field

Most people need to they will go to the highest paying jobs that will pay them

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@kgb725 said:

@mimisalome: Why would we need more jobs ? Most people don't work in a specific field

Most people need to they will go to the highest paying jobs that will pay them

You are the one who pointed out that:

"Raising minimum wage = more jobs"

I'm just pointing out that it isn't, atleast not in the case of your example.

The jobs are already there in the first place, we aren't creating more jobs.

If we are gonna use your logic for job creation, then we should encourage paid unemployment.

That sounds pretty stupid if you ask me.

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@mimisalome: That definitely fit into the theme of the guy i replied to.

Perfectly fine with me. Well we didn't ask

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@kgb725 said:

@mimisalome: That definitely fit into the theme of the guy i replied to.

Perfectly fine with me. Well we didn't ask

I disagree, I think the person you had referred earlier actually made more sense.

Productive jobs are created through productive investments (as dictated by the law of supply and demand).

And not through unsustainable artificial mechanism like minimum wage policies, or unemployment aids.

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@mimisalome: Who cares. There's more money but less opportunity ? That makes no sense

Other countries have proven its success

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More wages, lower taxes.

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#37  Edited By SancosNill

Pretty sure most people will opt for lower taxes. Who would want to pay more in taxes? They already drive people insane. Maybe if I did see great changes that taxes are positively influencing, maybe I would be okay with current taxes, possibly wouldn't even mind if they were a tad higher. But, alas, I feel like a big part of our taxes are not even used for the right reasons. Maybe higher taxes should be set for properties, land, machines, cars, maybe even retail, but I would opt for less tax or no tax at all on groceries. My paystub creator https://www.thepaystubs.com/ shows me some crazy tax % sometimes.

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Lower, preferably

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#40  Edited By brogdonly

The state takes taxes from us, withholding a certain amount from our wages and other income each month. Those who believe that high taxes are necessary assume at the outset that the state has a moral right to take a portion of their income to provide someone else with benefits or to fund public services. This sounds logical because if you look at the statistics of countries, the standard of living is higher in those with high or progressive taxes. As you understood, I am not against taxes. I regularly make check stubs online and pay for everything. I understand that many people don't want to lose part of their income, but I'm sure that you should strive to earn more in this case.

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#41  Edited By Edamame

@king_saturn said:

Why would anybody want Higher Taxes ?

Higher Taxes = More Free Stuff

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#43  Edited By SpareHeadOne

We just need rich people to pay their fair share instead of cheating the system