Has John Wick and Daredevil revolutionized how others film action scenes?

Ever since John Wick and Daredevil came out I've noticed a lot more people have decided to use longer takes, less cuts, and keep the camera more still. With Daredevil we have the notorious one shot scenes from all 3 seasons and with John Wick the action sequences have all the components I just listed. I know some Asian movies have been doing this for a long time but Daredevil and John Wick have mainstreamed it to the Western audiences.

Hollywood has definitely taken notice of the popularity of those action scenes. I don't think it's been revolutionised, shakey cam is still prevalent in some mediocre action movies (bc it's cheaper than proper choreography).

It's great to see how much popularity the John Wick directors have gotten now though.

Definitely. In the past few years, the bar for action scenes has gone so, so much higher. As recent as 2008, this was what action scenes looked like.

We already had good shit in the Matrix movies, back in the early 2000s

The Raid came before both MCU Daredevil and John Wick, it set the new gold standard for action films.

Yeah, one shot action scenes has definitely gone up in past few years.

Let's hope they really have and that it doesn't just become a fad.

@ghostodoofus2:

And Oldboy came before The Raid.

The point is, JW and DD have popularized this kind of action.

I think the first Bourne movie and the Raid had a greater impact. Daredevil and Wick are the result of that impact. Wick did well in the after market of home video and streaming. That’s where it built it’s initial following. Remember the first Wick only made $43 million in theaters domestically. The original Raid The Redemption made a tenth of that domestically but it was a foreign film with a limited theater count. Again, the after market and word of mouth built the hype for this franchise.

@Penguin-Dust: The Bourne films are notorious for shaky cam quick cuts, some of the worst action scenes I've seen.

@godzilla44: I’m not saying that they’re good or bad, just that they had great influence on future action films. You’re not the only one with that opinion, though.

https://www.businessinsider.com/jason-bourne-ruined-action-movies-hollywood-film-cinema-2018-4

@Penguin-Dust: Ahh ok my bad read your post wrong, I love the Bourne trilogy but damn those action scenes were bad.

@godzilla44: I would say Paul Greengrass (director of Supremacy and Ultimatum) is one of the few who can do shaky cam good. But to each their own.

(Ok nvm, I saw that you like the films too..)

@payneintheass: Bourne trilogy did shaky cam as best as you can get but they started a horrible trend for other action movies that tried to mimic it.

@godzilla44: Agree. Thankfully trends are changing in this regard.

I would say Wick, yes but daredevil no.

Wick showed what it is like when someone with enough training and proper gun combat can really look like with good choreography and not cheesy John Woo clips.

Daredevil I would not say had that great of choreography just good camerawork.

I know but as I said most Western audiences don't know about Asian films like the Raid. So that's where Daredevil and John Wick come in.

Oldboy did it before both of these guys and it's clear a lot was taken off that

Raid as well, arguably to a greater extent

For sure. At least for John Wick. Daredevil doesnt have much of an audience or cultural impact outside of comic fans. If anything i would say daredevil is just a good example of a show that took some inspiration from john wick.

They didn't revolutionise anything honestly.

People had been making good action scenes for a while and then they stopped, these guys just brought everyone back on track.

I'm not discrediting them from anything as they do have excellent action scenes however they didn't revolutionise things they only made everyone step their game up to match their predecessors.

John Wick did bring an awesome new perspective on gun fights tho. Daredevil didn't do anything very new, it set a benchmark for comic book movie/TV show h2h scenes that's it.

I feel like Children of Men has to be mentioned. They really pushed what could be done with single shot sequences in that movie.

Daredevil's impact is nowhere near John Wick's. People on CV need to broaden their perspectives more, lol