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#1  Edited By King_Saturn  Online

Who do you feel are the greatest leaders in your opinion ? What leaders do you feel inspire you in a positive way ?

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Alexander the Great, leading by being equal to his followers

inspires me to hopefully conquer the world one day and spread my influence throughout it

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Leonidas.

Seriously, he rocks, lol.

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#4  Edited By Kiara_Sullivan

Are there really any Great Leaders? Every leader out there that has been dubbed as a great leader, whether they stood for equaility or whatever, had some sort of personal gain.

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#5  Edited By King_Saturn  Online

Here Are Mine

  1. Martin Luther King Jr. - His message for equality for all men through "The Dream" speech was so impactful

  2. Malcolm X - His message of blacks standing up for there rights inspired me

  3. Abraham Lincoln - He freed the slaves dude !

  4. Bill Maher - I know he isnt a leader but I like his cynical attitude towards religion. LOL

  5. Barack Obama - I believe he is the future of the United States going in a positive direction

  6. Louis Farrakhan - At times I really dont like Farrakhan because he comes off like a racist and an anti-semitic. But I heard him say some pretty powerful things about the minority community at Black Union debated with Tavis Smiley.

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#6  Edited By Zenma

abraham lincoln is declared the most greatest president of the United States

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Kiara Sullivan says:

"Are there really any Great Leaders? Every leader out there that has been dubbed as a great leader, whether they stood for equaility or whatever, had some sort of personal gain."

Gandhi he's great

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Kiara Sullivan says:

"Are there really any Great Leaders? Every leader out there that has been dubbed as a great leader, whether they stood for equaility or whatever, had some sort of personal gain. "

I understand what you are saying Kiara Sullivan. It doesnt nessesarily have to be a " great leader " just a leader would be fine.

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#9  Edited By Kiara_Sullivan

Bangs head on desk

Abraham Lincoln did NOT free the slaves. That was just a presidential ploy for his canidacy. Before the start of the Civil War there was not talk of freeing the slaves. There was talk of making some states free. And others Slave states.

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#10  Edited By MotorSteel

Adolph Hitler....what? he was a good artist.

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Kiara Sullivan says:

"*Bangs head on desk* Abraham Lincoln did NOT free the slaves. That was just a presidential ploy for his canidacy. Before the start of the Civil War there was not talk of freeing the slaves. There was talk of making some states free. And others Slave states. "

Hmm... well if thats true I may have to revise my list

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#12  Edited By Kiara_Sullivan

Oh Noes I cant call King Saturn KS x_X It would be like I am talking to myself xP

But yes thats true. I'm a Civil War Fanatic. I love anything to do with it. Even though I am from the south I love to prove southerners wrong and the same with anyone else. I'll have to go and look up the information, but the Emancipation Proclamation was just written to get the peoples vote. Or Something Like that. My mind is all blah right now. But I know it wasnt Good ole Honest Abe who freed the slaves, but he did get the notion stuck in everyones heads.

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#13  Edited By King_Saturn  Online

My Revised List

  1. Martin Luther King Jr.

  2. Malcolm X

  3. Gandhi

  4. Bill Maher

  5. Barack Obama

  6. Louis Farrakhan

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MotorSteel says:

"Adolph Hitler....what? he was a good artist."

he was a great leader, and he used it to his advantage...leading the youth of Germany into evils beyond their comprehension

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Sparda says:

"Leonidas.Seriously, he rocks, lol."

however he was far off from the depiction in the movie 300

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#16  Edited By Cannon Fodder

I'd say Moses was pretty awesome, him and David they were badass.

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#17  Edited By Cannon Fodder

Oh yeah, and Solomon before he got old was pretty awesome.

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Jack the Ripper says:

"Sparda says:
"Leonidas.Seriously, he rocks, lol."

however he was far off from the depiction in the movie 300"

I know, but still.......he rocks anyways, lol.

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#19  Edited By Zenma

julius ceasar

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#20  Edited By sonicmora

Malcolm X.

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#21  Edited By sonicmora

I agree with Obama, and I would like to add Roosevelt.

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#22  Edited By King_Saturn  Online

sonicmora says:

"I agree with Obama, and I would like to add Roosevelt."

Which one Teddy or FDR ?

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#23  Edited By sonicmora

FDR

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sonicmora says:

"FDR"

Nice

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King Saturn says:

" My Revised List1. Martin Luther King Jr.2. Malcolm X3. Gandhi4. Bill Maher5. Barack Obama6. Louis Farrakhan "

How can you have Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X on the same list?

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Joan of Arc!

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Louis Farrakhan?

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Louis Farrakhan (born Louis Eugene Walcott, May 11, 1933), is the acting head of the Nation of Islam (NOI) as the National Representative of Elijah Muhammad. He is also well-known as an advocate for African American interests and a critic of American society.

Farrakhan has been the center of much controversy, and critics have, among other things, said that some of his views and comments have been racist, homophobic, and antisemitic.[4] Farrakhan denies these charges, and frequently insists that his controversial comments are taken out of context by critics.[5] Farrakhan currently resides in Kenwood, an affluent neighborhood on the south side of Chicago.

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#31  Edited By Chameleone

Farrakhan is an anti-semite and when has Barack Obama shown any leadership values? Just saying. He's been in senate for 2 years

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Gambler says:

"King Saturn says:
" My Revised List1. Martin Luther King Jr.2. Malcolm X3. Gandhi4. Bill Maher5. Barack Obama6. Louis Farrakhan "

How can you have Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X on the same list?"

LMAO, exactly what I was thinking

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"Louis Farrakhan?"

Yes. But I said in my original post that I dont really agree with everything he says. In the past Farrakhan has said racist and anti-semitic remarks that has made me hate him at times. But I heard him at a Black Union debate and he spoke on the issues of minorites in the poor communities and he was really on point with what he said there.

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#34  Edited By Renegade Lantern

Abe Lincoln

King Leonidas

Patton

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#35  Edited By Kiara_Sullivan

Two debates on two leaders already xP

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#36  Edited By King_Saturn  Online

Gambler says:

"King Saturn says:
" My Revised List 1. Martin Luther King Jr. 2. Malcolm X 3. Gandhi 4. Bill Maher 5. Barack Obama 6. Louis Farrakhan "
How can you have Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X on the same list?"

I figured someone whould say that. Its not so much as to I dont know that Farrakhan had something to do with Malcolm X's murder or that I pardon Farrakhan for taking part in it. Its what wisdom and knowledge I can draw from each person on the list. Though I havent drawn much wisdom from Minister Farrakhan, it was some things I feel he is on point about. Farrakhan really was a push though ( thats why I had him last on my list ).

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#37  Edited By The_Ghostshell

King Saturn says:

"Gambler says:
"King Saturn says:
" My Revised List 1. Martin Luther King Jr. 2. Malcolm X 3. Gandhi 4. Bill Maher 5. Barack Obama 6. Louis Farrakhan "
How can you have Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X on the same list?"

I figured someone whould say that. Its not so much as to I dont know that Farrakhan had something to do with Malcolm X's murder or that I pardon Farrakhan for taking part in it. Its what wisdom and knowledge I can draw from each person on the list. Though I havent drawn much wisdom from Minister Farrakhan, it was some things I feel he is on point about. Farrakhan really was a push though ( thats why I had him last on my list ). "

Thats cool and I didn't mean to seem like I was attacking you personally. Its just when it comes to Great historical leaders, having his name next to some of the true greats is a slap in the face.

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#38  Edited By Kiara_Sullivan

Ponders Slapping G just for the heck of it xP

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#39  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Kiara Sullivan says:

"*Ponders Slapping G just for the heck of it* xP"

Sonnova :P I am not your personal punching bag lol

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#40  Edited By Kiara_Sullivan

Slaps G I need to take my frustration out on someone. xP

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#41  Edited By King_Saturn  Online

Gambler says:

"King Saturn says:
"Gambler says:
"King Saturn says:
" My Revised List 1. Martin Luther King Jr. 2. Malcolm X 3. Gandhi 4. Bill Maher 5. Barack Obama 6. Louis Farrakhan "
How can you have Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X on the same list?"
I figured someone whould say that. Its not so much as to I dont know that Farrakhan had something to do with Malcolm X's murder or that I pardon Farrakhan for taking part in it. Its what wisdom and knowledge I can draw from each person on the list. Though I havent drawn much wisdom from Minister Farrakhan, it was some things I feel he is on point about. Farrakhan really was a push though ( thats why I had him last on my list ). "
Thats cool and I didn't mean to seem like I was attacking you personally. Its just when it comes to **Great** historical leaders, having his name next to some of the true greats is a slap in the face."

Well I figured I would get some debate on Farrakhan being on my list. Though I will admit for the most part you guys are right in terms of him being anti-semetic and racist. I have heard Farrahkhan say some things that made me sick. I would never say he is a true leader,or he is even in the same league as Malcolm X or Dr. King. That would be totally wrong.

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#42  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Kiara Sullivan says:

"*Slaps G* I need to take my frustration out on someone. xP"

There are other ways to......un-wined If ya know what I mean grrrrrr :P

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#43  Edited By Kiara_Sullivan

o_O G are you implying something naughty o_O steps away slowly

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#45  Edited By speedlgt

Churchill

Clintion

John Paul

thats it.

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chameleone says:

"Farrakhan is an anti-semite and when has Barack Obama shown any leadership values? Just saying. He's been in senate for 2 years"

I know buddy. I said Farrahkhan was a racist and anti-semetic three times now. But he has had a few gems of wisdom at times. But to be truthful I cant really name any leader in that was apart of the Nation of Islam that was worth hearing besides Malcolm X. Even the honorable Eljiah Muhammed said some things that were very racist.