Donald Trump General Discussion thread

They both wear suits and are politicians, bro. Fourth Reich incoming!!

I see the world timeline now.

• America Elects Trump 2016
• 2 Weeks after this Nato Invades syria to stomp out ISIS
• 1 Month after the invasion Putin states the US should stop attacking assad
• 6 hours later Trump calls putin a "Spaz"
• 12 minutes later WW3
• During the raining of the bombs the island of japan flies out the sea becoming a floating fortress
• 2017 January with the US defeating russia and keeping the world intact trump invades mexico cos he thinks the "The us need gardeners"
• 2017 May a large hologram of aliens declare to the world they have given up on humanity and leave
• 2017 August ISIS 2 The Jihad's Strike Back is formed
• 2018 Kanyes Campaign starts
• 2019 The Island of japan returns stating "Those aliens trump annoyed tried to blow up earth we stoped them your welcome"
• 2019 June The US's giant Nuke laser blows up japan becuase once you leave earth you can't come back
• 2020 President Kanye is elected
• After the election kanyes sick new mix tape drops and causes world peace.

This is honestly how i see trumps world view.

@stahlflamme: he is saying Muslims from those countries should be stopped crossing the border until we figure things out. He didnt say bar all Muslims as he made the point U.S. Citizens can do as they wish.

It wouldn't be a bad idea either. In the wake of these terrorist attacks, we should stop anyone from those areas from coming into America (whether Muslim or not). However, you won't find a non-Muslim ISIS terrorist.

And comparing him to Hitler does injustice to just how bad Hitler was.

Yeah, except before he got elected Hitler was spoutig pretty similiar nonsense. Also the terrorists are not from muslim countries they tend to be from the very western nations they are attacking. Also the man who makes fun of the paris attacks, in an attempt to use them as justification for his view on gun laws, should probably not use them as a defense for his racism.

He wants to impose a ban on Muslim immigration. All the more reason to dislike him.... Republicans don't even agree with that sh!t.

I was being sarcastic to mock the view of people like the person I was responding to...

Even if sarcasm is lost on the Internet, why would I

1) say all Trump haters are racist liberal SJW ISIS

and then

2) argue with a guy for saying all Trump haters are sheep

The comment you responded to is LITERALLY arguing against the exact viewpoint that I was MOCKINGLY taking earlier.

Context before comments dude.

I think you mean "muslimphobic", since he speaks badly against muslims but not islam. I think people can a have good reason to not like islam.

Yes, it is possible to love the people who claim to practice islam while hating the practice of Islam. I care for the well-being of muslims but I am completely opposed to the religion of islam.

He's an awful person. He thinks every Muslim person should be banned from America. I swear, if we left it up to him he'd want another holocaust. It's an embarrassment as an American that his campaign is doing so well.

By the way, people don't like Donald trump because Donald trump does not like people.

At what point does a culture need to be so against your own that you would exclude people or do some people have no limits.

Bill Maher's a super liberal but people may have forgotten he essentially said the same thing as Trump when it came to Europe. That tolerant Europe would become less tolerant.

@stahlflamme: I feel that you don't know the exact scope that Hitler used when committing his heinous acts. To compare him to Trump shows clear ignorance on the subject. Barring people from the country in the wake of terroristic threats isn't a Hitler move, I think it is a reasonable reaction whether it is put into place or not. You cant argue agaisnt his reasoning, you are left with trying to degrade him, and write him off as silly or like Hitler. The truth is, it would be quite effective in stopping terror, or at least making it much more challenging for terrorist to accomplish. Better to close off our borders to non-Americans than to risk American lives.

For clarity, I think Trump is a bad man and would be a horrible president, but comparing him to Hitler is still way out of line. Hitler did not hide his main agenda before he took power; he spelled out his plans in Mein Kampf for all the world to read. Also, Hitler is actually consistent in his words and actions. Trump just says whatever he thinks will win him the election. Hitler was a National Socialist ideologue. Trump is a populist.

Trump loves people. Without people, who would he have to adore him?

I agree he's an embarrassment, but for clarity, he does not want Muslims who are here banned. He's advocating we put a halt to future Islamic immigration which is something that should be considered. Also, there's a lot of steps between not allowing a group in and exterminating them. I don't want people immigrating to the United States with Ebola, but I don't want them exterminated.

Haters.

@presidenttrump: You're not president yet Donald.

Yes I am.

He's a racist loudmouth who's hamming it up on the media and people are eating it up. Dude's an idiot and you'd be silly to argue it otherwise.

What was that? I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my billions of dollars.

Because the majority of his outbursts are designed to appeal to the least desirable subset of the GOP (racists and anarchists).

Racists? Yes, I believe Trump would appeal to racists. I don't think most of his statements are strictly racist, but some statements can definitely been be interpreted that way.

Anarchists though? Where do you get that Trump appeals to anarchists? What has Trump ever said that implied, "We should have no law?"

@dngn4774: As someone with a lot of anarchist friends and views, I can guarantee you Trump does not appeal to anarchists.

Racists, definitely though. Trump also knows very well that if he is gonna be elected, it will be by that conservative and racist part of the American population. So he is preaching to the choir at this point, blowing up all other bridges.

I wish he would drop out.

He just continues to make more and more ridiculous statements to whip up the racists and bigots into a frenzy.

It really shows the power of paranoia and prejudice.

@cpt_nice: @batwatch: By anarchists I don't mean literal domestic terrorists. I'm referring to ultra-libertarians who wish to defund whole segments of the government (most notably the EPA, Planned Parenthood, and the IRS) to the point where these institutions can't function, simply because they can't deem it unconstitutional through the judicial branch.

Trump appeals to the same type of people who would rather shut down the government than compromise on a national budget. The loud minority that doesn't believe in negotiation and has been making the entire GOP look childish ever since the recession. The same people who've cost the Republican Party the last two national elections. In hindsight I guess a better term would be bullies or sore losers.

@cpt_nice: I explain what they are in the second paragraph, if you bother reading the rest of my post.

@dngn4774: I did read your entire post, I was commenting on the fact that anarchism is a larger spectrum than domestic terrorists and people who want to defund certain government programs.

You've Been Trumped--

--iz a good documentary. Just saying.

@dngn4774:

"By anarchists I don't mean literal domestic terrorists."

I would hope not. Anarchy and terrorism are two entirely different things.

"I'm referring to ultra-libertarians who wish to defund whole segments of the government (most notably the EPA, Planned Parenthood, and the IRS) to the point where these institutions can't function, simply because they can't deem it unconstitutional through the judicial branch."

Libertarianism and anarchy are two completely different political philosophies and those terms should not be used interchangeably, Planned Parenthood is not a segment of the government and it makes no more sense to say defunding certain government programs is tantamount to anarchy than it does to say funding certain government programs is tantamount to totalitarianism.

"Trump appeals to the same type of people who would rather shut down the government than compromise on a national budget. The loud minority that doesn't believe in negotiation and has been making the entire GOP look childish ever since the recession. The same people who've cost the Republican Party the last two national elections. In hindsight I guess a better term would be bullies or sore losers."

Oh, you mean Obama? He refused to negotiate on the debt limit and caused the government shut down. (Source) When the Republican House passed bills to fund every part of the government except for Obamacare, Obama and the Senate Democrats blocked the funding letting the government shutdown continue because the Democrats insisted that everybody must suffer if they didn't get every single thing they wanted. (Source) He's also the one making the Republicans look childish since he devolves down into insults and finger pointing anytime Republicans oppose him. (I'm assuming you don't need examples of that since it's omnipresent)

Regardless, I don't know of anything Trump has said that even indicates he would shut down any government programs, so this claim still seems baseless. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Trump, but purported calls for anarchy is not one of them.

@batwatch:

"Libertarianism and anarchy are two completely different political philosophies and those terms should not be used interchangeably"

I used the term Ultra-libertarianism to indicate that it transcends the general reasoning of rational libertarianism. There's a big difference between believing that government should be limited and believing that the government should never be able to tell individuals what to do under any circumstance ever (i.e. govern). If you don't believe that governments should ever govern, then from a philosophical standpoint you are treading close to anarchist ideology.

"Oh, you mean Obama? He refused to negotiate on the debt limit and caused the government shut down. (Source) When the Republican House passed bills to fund every part of the government except for Obamacare, Obama and the Senate Democrats blocked the funding letting the government shutdown continue because the Democrats insisted that everybody must suffer if they didn't get every single thing they wanted. (Source)"

Because there was no reason to negotiate. Republicans were playing chicken with the nation's debt and if they actually defaulted they would have taken all of the blame. Why would he give up the cornerstone of his administration's legacy if he knew that the GOP wouldn't tank their own economy?

"He's also the one making the Republicans look childish since he devolves down into insults and finger pointing anytime Republicans oppose him."

Obviously both sides finger point, but when Republicans trash each other on such a volume, it makes the entire party look weak when the big November arrives.

"Regardless, I don't know of anything Trump has said that even indicates he would shut down any government programs."

This is based mostly on how he conducts himself. They way he emphasizes winning for himself and his supporters and branding anyone who challenges his opinions as losers just gives off an impression that he views politics more as a sport than a service. It also gives me vibes that he's not the right guy to be left in charge of half a million nukes but that's also conjecture.

Yeah were banning him from britain.... iam serious https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003 400k+ signatures.

@chazz85: Lol. I never knew countries could just boycott people they don't like.

@dngn4774: It's going to parliament they'll debate it there. The mayor of london has said he will refuse to welcome trump if he becomes president and all are political leaders hate him.

Yup every time he opens his mouth he shoots himself in the foot.

@spitfirepanda: Its planning to eat your soul.

I remember seeing Trump on WWE a long time ago.

lol muslim Libcomms be hatin.

Eh, it's all they know how to do.

He is a bigoted shithead.

He's a fraud. We need Rand Paul or Ted Cruz

I'm neither Muslim or Liberal and I don't want that gas bag in office.

cuz of stupid things he says

Jealousy, mostly.

@mrmxyzptlk: Literally would not be Donald Trump if I was given the choice.

Well I'd rather have that gas bag in office than be a muslim, a Libcomm or have Hussain Obongo in office.