@arranvid said:
I'm Pro-Life except in the following circumstances: When the mum's life is at risk, when the mum has been raped, in cases of incest.
The mother’s life is always at risk. Giving birth is an intense and invasive procedure that can be potentially life threatening, no matter what. Complications can and do happen, regardless of whether or not the doctors find an underlying health condition.
The baby can grow too big, requiring a C section. The mother can have a blood clot, heart attack, or stroke. The hormonal changes can lead to excessive weight gain, diabetes, or severe depression.
There is no such thing as a completely safe pregnancy.
Giving birth should not be thought of as an 'invasive' procedure. It takes two to tango. The foetus, you and I both know, has half the dad's DNA and half the mum's DNA. The culture and attitude about sex nowadays in rich Western countries is just to have sex without thinking about the responsibilities that come along with having sex. There are couples who use contraceptives and safety measures in rich Western countries, but there are many couples who do not. One night stands and teen pregnancies are very high in occurrence nowadays. Some people should stop and think carefully before having sex. Sex has the important thing in that it creates new life, and that new life is formed when the sperm fertilizes the egg in my opinion. If the mum thinks of pregnancy as an invasive procedure, then she should've thought carefully before having sex in the first place. No, I'm not singling out mums, both men and women need to think and act responsibly before having sex. In my opinion, pregnancy is not an invasive procedure. Pregnancy becomes invasive if the mum has been raped, because rape removes consent and her bodily autonomy has been denied. However, if the sex is consensual and the woman becomes pregnant, then pregnancy is not invasive.
Yes, my mum struggled a bit in giving birth to me and I was a forceps baby, in that the medical team (I think it was a doctor) had to use forceps to deliver me properly. My mum got some long-term birth complications from my birth. But if you ask her if me being in her womb was invasive or if she regrets giving birth to me, she will laugh at the question and she will of course be glad that I was born and she would have no regrets with how the birth went. Also, even after those complications, she still gave birth to my sister 9 years later and the birth went fine. As to your point on giving birth being 'intense', my mum would say that the births were not intense if you asked her. However, I know that every woman is different and that there are women who find giving birth intense, but not all of them do. My maternal grandma didn't think giving birth was intense either. When thinking about birth, people need to think about the bigger picture, the end result. Yes, births worldwide can become a bit complicated, like my mum's, but if you have a safe birth and the baby and the mum turned out more or less fine, then that's the best end result. The man and woman who have sex should know the risks that come along with pregnancy and birth, it's the responsibility of the man and woman to think these things through.
Yes, women who give birth in circumstances of difficult poverty or who have had their consent taken away from them are in a different situation, the possibility of abortion should be open to them for logical reasons. But if you're a woman who has had all the information available to them and had all the time in the world and options in the world to think carefully before having sex and then you regret the sex and now want to have an abortion because you feel the living being inside your womb is invasive then I'm sorry but that is a living being in your womb and you will be denied abortion unless the situation is deemed to be dangerous by doctors. I don't think it's right for a woman to abort a being in the womb which is almost at full-term, especially when the doctors in their minds think that the being could become a healthy baby if birth happened. Giving birth is not as dangerous as it used to be, medicine has improved a lot and facilities have improved a lot for pregnant mums. What would you say about my grandma who gave birth to eight healthy babies with no complications and who lived in a Third World country, Ceylon, with not excellent medical facilities? Some people use abortion as a type of contraceptive and that is wrong. I agree with you that there is no such thing as a completely safe pregnancy, but healthcare has improved a lot and many births turn out fine. You might disagree with me but it is what it is. Yes, there are cases when abortion is acceptable, but there are cases when abortion is unacceptable. It's just my opinion and I respect your opinion. If I change my mind on the issue then I'll let you know because I'm open to changing my mind on this complicated issue.
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