i mean neither are/were particularly talented
i guess Michael though
??? This is patently false lol. Every single member of bts is multi-talented and michael jackson is one of the best performers in modern music.
it would appear our definition of talent is different.
my definition is: natural aptitude or skill
yours appears to be: average or mediocre
@warlockmage: ...Michael jackson had an incredible aptitude for singing and dancing lol. A simple google search would tell you this. He was not average or mediocre in anything he did.
adorable... i don't need to google search because i am capable of forming my own thoughts and opinions (i don't need to look up why someone is talented or good, i can listen to their music or watch them and i can tell on my own)
and Michael Jackson is not in the same league as Freddie Mercury, Paul McCartney, Frank Sinatra, Paul David Hewson, or Elvis Presley (ya know guys with actual talent)
im not even gonna bring up BTS because implying they belong in this conversation is an even bigger joke, but hey you keep believing what google tells you to believe ok.
@warlockmage: Michael was a much, much better dancer and performer than all of them. Specifically he was an objectively better singer than elvis as-well. He is not in the same league as those you mentioned, he is overall better than all of them in regards to their shared areas of talent.
It is no exaggeration to say michael was one of the best performers in modern music history; the guy was able to captivate massive audiences. Beyond that he was an incredible dancer in both a technical and stylistic sense, in regards to the fluidity of his movements, expressions and rhythm. I cannot fathom for the life of me why you would compare someone like elvis to michael jackson lol Elvis isn't even better than james brown let alone MJ.
BTS are all multi-talented musicians, singers, producers and writers, and they're currently the most famous boyband on earth. They shouldn't be compared to the likes of michael jackson but a couple decades down the road we will look back at their impact and influence.
this maybe a cynical point of view but if bigger kpop groups don't have that much lasting influence outside that genre, i really doubt this one can. they maybe fueled by social media but that's one volatile ingredient nowadays.
all fueled by social media and that is a fickle beast. being big in the west isn't really that special when that part of the world "consumes" what is popular at that moment and they have been doing that over the decades i mean how many non western acts have made a lasting impact in the west ?
I think you could make the argument any popularity is fueled by social media. Social media is an essential part of any modern act being big. If you don't have a solid social media following you're at a big disadvantage.
BTS are the first and only group from their country so far to debut at and have a number 1 billboard album (for two weeks IIRC), they've presented an award at the grammies (were nominated for best album packaging), performed at the BBMAS, spoke at the UN etc. I think their achievements thus far alone in the west are enough to warrant them at the least a phenomenon that'll be looked back upon in history, and they haven't even hit their peak yet.
Whether they have long lasting musical influence in western contemporary music remains to be seen, they've only really been a big thing in the west since 2017, but i think they've definitely already effected pop culture, and i am confident their influence won't stop there.
social media is a fickle beast. one moment they like you, another moment they don't and that can happen within an hour. unlike the old days, black propaganda isn't easily spread and it's far harder to quash due to a lot of people spreading stuff without verifying things.
that's not really enough though considering the west tends to have short attention spans on non western stuff regardless of achievements they give them. i mean las ketchup and los del rio were only as relevant in the few years they were on the air waves and yet you don't see something within their genres coming up again in the west.
i am only basing on how the west rolls with non western music and for most parts, kpop is just another fad to them. BTS might prove me wrong but i doubt that such a massive mixed culture is going to have significant changes due to kpop or non-western music as a whole.
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