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The area around the apartment of mass movie theater shooting suspect James Holmes in suburban Denver was evacuated Friday and police were trying to determine how to disarm booby traps made of what Aurora police said appeared to be "very sophisticated" explosives or flammable materials.

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#2  Edited By Project_Worm

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

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WTF?

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#4  Edited By AweSam

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Psychopaths tend to be very cunning.

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#5  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

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#6  Edited By TheGoldenOne
@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

Really?
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#7  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@TheGoldenOne: Yes, it was on CNN. Although he was withdrawing from the school apparently for unknown reasons. Point was he was smart enough to get in.

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#8  Edited By AweSam

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

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What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

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Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

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@Mercy_ said:

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

That's what I've been thinking about.

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#12  Edited By Mercy_

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

That as well. Something about it strikes me as very odd.

@Donnieman v5.1: There's something that doesn't add up. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, IDK, but it just strikes me as really off.

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#13  Edited By Donnieman v5.1

@Mercy_: No, I think you're right. Obviously he has a reason for his actions, considering the events that led up to that point. I just don't know.

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#14  Edited By AweSam

@Mercy_ said:

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

He has to have a reason for targeting The Dark Knight Rises. If he fired at the cops, they would fire back. He probably has a message.

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#15  Edited By Vortex13

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

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#16  Edited By nickthedevil

Another 'under-appreciated' man trying to make a name for himself.

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#17  Edited By FinnVarra

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

He didn't tell them. They put a camera on a big pole and looked through the window before they tried to go in. At least thats what I read.

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#18  Edited By shanana

@Mercy_ said:

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

That as well. Something about it strikes me as very odd.

@Donnieman v5.1: There's something that doesn't add up. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, IDK, but it just strikes me as really off.

No, your not something's off

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#19  Edited By AweSam

@nickthedevil said:

Another 'under-appreciated' man trying to make a name for himself.

He probably has a reason he finds logical. I wish I could interview him.

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#20  Edited By Vortex13

Unfortunately when I type in dark knight shooting in google, I only get the Dark Knight Rises one but I could have sworn there was one at the Dark Knight one as well.

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#21  Edited By nickthedevil

@AweSam said:

@nickthedevil said:

Another 'under-appreciated' man trying to make a name for himself.

He probably has a reason he finds logical. I wish I could interview him.

Of course he does. Maybe a delusion of self-importance coupled with not being recognized...

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#22  Edited By TheCheeseStabber

@Mercy_ said:

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

That as well. Something about it strikes me as very odd.

@Donnieman v5.1: There's something that doesn't add up. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, IDK, but it just strikes me as really off.

Maybe he wants to go to Jail, he knew that he'd get a longer stay a more image by making such a public display...The neuroscience worries me as well, I pray that this carnage is over but I don't believe he's through ;/

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#23  Edited By Vortex13

@TheCheeseStabber: He's been caught.

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#24  Edited By TheCheeseStabber

@Vortex13: Im aware but what frightens me is how he gave up willingly along with the other things stated...

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#25  Edited By Vortex13

@TheCheeseStabber: Do you mean you think he's killed others and will admit to it during questioning?

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#26  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

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#27  Edited By TheCheeseStabber

@Vortex13: not necessarily I think-and I pray I'm wrong-that he's not done yet...

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@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

Can you imagine if that dude became your doctor?

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#29  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

Wait what does Rush have to do with it?

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@Babs said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

Can you imagine if that dude became your doctor?

I'd prefer not to. Makes you really think about who are the people on the fringe of your life (Doctors, dentists, cashiers, etc)

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@TheCheeseStabber: In real life someone who ends up in a maximum security prison, which he undoubtedly will, don't really escape. Not sure what he can really do at this point. Except make a media circus with his comments and claims in the trial he will have.

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#32  Edited By TheCheeseStabber

@Vortex13: Like I said I pray I'm wrong but it just doesn't add up

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#33  Edited By AweSam

@Lunacyde said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

Wait what does Rush have to do with it?

Simply put, he thinks Mitt Romney's Batman and Bane is some conspiracy to ruin his campaign. College/university students tend to be pretty vulnerable and gullible when it comes to politics.

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#34  Edited By AweSam

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

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#35  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

Wait what does Rush have to do with it?

Simply put, he thinks Mitt Romney's Batman and Bane is some conspiracy to ruin his campaign. College/university students tend to be pretty vulnerable and gullible when it comes to politics.

WTF?

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#36  Edited By AweSam

@Lunacyde said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

Wait what does Rush have to do with it?

Simply put, he thinks Mitt Romney's Batman and Bane is some conspiracy to ruin his campaign. College/university students tend to be pretty vulnerable and gullible when it comes to politics.

WTF?

The Batman and Bane part, or the college/university student part?

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#37  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

To be legally considered insane a person must either not be capable of differentiating between right and wrong, completely unaware of the consequences of their actions, or so delusional that they don't even realize what they are actually doing.

Psychopath's are completely in control of their faculties, in fact they tend to be overly analytical cold, and calculating. They know exactly what they are doing and that it is wrong, but they don't care and don't feel any empathy for others.

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#38  Edited By Vortex13

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

Very true, the mentally ill are usually highly non violent as well. Psychopaths are not non violent. Also psychopath is kind of a broad term. Given the information we have so far I'd say he may have a anti social personality disorder. That isn't a mental illness either it's more a psychological state of mind or disorder which is different seeing as most metal illnesses are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.

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#39  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@AweSam: Batman and Bane part.

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#40  Edited By GR2Blackout

Is this the maniac he thinks he's Bane that attacked the Dark Knight Rises premiere or whatever? Or a different maniac?

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#41  Edited By AweSam

@Vortex13 said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

Very true, the mentally ill are usually highly non violent as well. Psychopaths are not non violent. Also psychopath is kind of a broad term. Given the information we have so far I'd say he may have a anti social personality disorder. That isn't a mental illness either it's more a psychological state of mind or disorder which is different seeing as most metal illnesses are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Mentally ill people can also be very violent, although, it's usually because they're frightened. It's more likely he's psychopathic. It's why he didn't kill himself or risk death by firing on the police. As I said before, he probably has a reason and a message. I really hope they televise an interview with him.

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#42  Edited By Vortex13

@AweSam: When they are violent though they're usually violent to themselves however. I have quite a bit of experience with mentally ill people.

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#43  Edited By Project_Worm

@AweSam said:

@Vortex13 said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

Very true, the mentally ill are usually highly non violent as well. Psychopaths are not non violent. Also psychopath is kind of a broad term. Given the information we have so far I'd say he may have a anti social personality disorder. That isn't a mental illness either it's more a psychological state of mind or disorder which is different seeing as most metal illnesses are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Mentally ill people can also be very violent, although, it's usually because they're frightened. It's more likely he's psychopathic. It's why he didn't kill himself or risk death by firing on the police. As I said before, he probably has a reason and a message. I really hope they televise an interview with him.

Technically speaking Insanity covers someone who is a psychopath. Psychopathy is simply a more specific type of insanity. A Psychopath is indeed insane. But an insane person isn't necessarily a psychopath.

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#44  Edited By AweSam

@Project_Worm said:

@AweSam said:

Technically speaking Insanity covers someone who is a psychopath. Psychopathy is simply a more specific type of insanity. A Psychopath is indeed insane. But an insane person isn't necessarily a psychopath.

We're referring to people who are mentally unstable. Unstable to a point where they can't be a part of the public.

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@Project_Worm: Insanity is a very broad term though. Legally speaking it means someone who doesn't know right from wrong, clinically speaking it's not actually used. But when someone says insane most peoples minds go to something like dissociative identity disorder, schizophrenia, bi-polar and stuff like that. If that's not the type of people you meant I apologize for my misconception.

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@Mercy_ said:

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

I'm guessing he was looking forward to hearing about the devastating affects that his traps would have on the police.
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#47  Edited By utotheg38

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

lol because of The bane thing? XD

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#48  Edited By Project_Worm

@AweSam: And I (who sort of started this little discussion) was referring to insanity...

@Vortex13: Completely understand. I was just trying to clarify what it is I meant.

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#49  Edited By AweSam

@utotheg38 said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

lol because of The bane thing? XD

Some people take things very seriously... VERY seriously.

@HowTerribleIsThat said:

@Mercy_ said:

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

I'm guessing he was looking forward to hearing about the devastating affects that his traps would have on the police.

Or he had something he was hiding and was hoping the traps would get rid of them.

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#50  Edited By leejunfan83

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Smart people don't like sheep