Becoming Aware

Before I watch it, since there's no comments on the video to judge it by, and the description is sorely, sorely lacking: what's this about?

Before I watch it, since there's no comments on the video to judge it by, and the description is sorely, sorely lacking: what's this about?

Being aware is an individual process, but when people preach about it and shove it down people's throat it just seems pretentious.

stop watching youtube

stop watching youtube

  On a side note, V was justified in the film V for Vendetta, however the original Guy Fawkes was no grand revolutionary fighting for the individual, he was a Catholic terrorist!

You keep posting these videos and making these threads, but I can't tell where you're going. Anti-Free-Market? Anti-Government? Anti-Socialism? Anti-Multiculturalism? Anti-Uniculturalism? You want wealth redistribution perhaps? You've been listening to John Lannon and only John Lennon for far too long? Just read a book on Marxism? You're a hippie? You're a want to kill hippies?  I can't help but say that I feel that many countries in the world, including America, are not like the Police State government found in the movie V for Vendetta. Do not mistake simple police brutality as a government suppression. We are free to vote, and we do govern ourselves with a Democratic Republic.  On a side note, V was justified in the film V for Vendetta, however the original Guy Fawkes was no grand revolutionary fighting for the individual, he was a Catholic terrorist!

@departed402 said:

You keep posting these videos and making these threads, but I can't tell where you're going. Anti-Free-Market? Anti-Government? Anti-Socialism? Anti-Multiculturalism? Anti-Uniculturalism? You want wealth redistribution perhaps? You've been listening to John Lannon and only John Lennon for far too long? Just read a book on Marxism? You're a hippie? You're a want to kill hippies?  I can't help but say that I feel that many countries in the world, including America, are not like the Police State government found in the movie V for Vendetta. Do not mistake simple police brutality as a government suppression. We are free to vote, and we do govern ourselves with a Democratic Republic.  On a side note, V was justified in the film V for Vendetta, however the original Guy Fawkes was no grand revolutionary fighting for the individual, he was a Catholic terrorist!

Wake Up.

@turoksonofstone: Okay, I can see where that "Guy Fawkes was a Catholic terrorist" comment might have rubbed you the wrong way. I doubt we'll come to terms on that, so i'll just let it go.  You still have not presented your viewpoint in a clear fashion, beyond "rebel!" So please what are you rebelling for/against?

@departed402:  
The Guy Fawkes argument is a most nonsensical one, Fawkes/V are a symbol of modern rebellion not of Catholic Terrorism. Anyone with any common sense knows that.   My personal Viewpoint? Is that what you think this about? lol.

@cattlebattle:  I am aware of who he was and what he attempted to accomplish. I have also seen Alan Moore's story and the film that was based on it. What is your point?  "Guy Fawkes attempted to replace a Protestant controlled Parliment for a Catholic one".......*sigh*

@cyberninja: I've had a lot of sugar

@turoksonofstone said:

@cattlebattle:  I am aware of who he was and what he attempted to accomplish. I have also seen Alan Moore's story and the film that was based on it. What is your point?  "Guy Fawkes attempted to replace a Protestant controlled Parliment for a Catholic one".......*sigh*

my point is, its silly to use that mask to make a point, the context of that movie doesn't apply to what  people are trying to accomplish...nor is the reason that V wore a mask in the first place.....and you can sigh all you want...that is indeed what the long term goal was..I guess they didn't have that on youtube though...sigh

Whoa, aren't we just feisty today?

I think Turok might have a point here. Well, lots of people do, apparently. If you look at bookshops everywhere, the first thing you see is either the book-du-jour or self-help books. There's all sorts of mumbo-jumbo being preached from interfacing with your inner guardian angel to power yoga (the full wisdom and insight of yoga in ten minutes a day!) and all that. Some might work, most won't, but they do have one thing in common: They say that there's more to life than just buying stuff. And they say it by having you buy a book. Oh, the irony. But apparently, they all feel that the world is getting lost in blind consumerism, ridiculous greed and shallow values. And watching the telly, how could you disagree. Apparently all it takes to make a hero out of a loser is a pimped out car as seen on Pimp my Ride. You can't help but marvel at the way the Kardashians manage to stay alive by throwing money and stupidity at it. You see make-overs, brands that become people's identities and so on. So why would you be led to believe anything but "We're lost in blind consumerism?"

However, if you venture out into the real world, you see that - while some actually are buying zombies with seemingly endless funding - there still are people out there who value their "soul's health" (for lack of a better term) more than money. The "Occupy Wallstreet"-guys are not at work making money to see if they can't make a better world. There are close circles of friends who shy away from no expense to make their friends happy. Sure, it's a small thing, but it counts. There's people giving their lives to God, whatever that means. It's everywhere around us. Maybe not as bountiful and abundandt as we wish, let alone as united as we'd like to have it. Sure, I'd like a peaceful revolution or two myself and I too get frustrated at looking at the people in Hot Topic and the Abercrombie and Fitch stores, thinking they're nothing but lambs on their way to be slaughtered. But maybe they're just waiting for their cause. Maybe it will be the death of a dog that makes them into animal-rights activists. Maybe God will suddenly speak to them. Maybe they'll get pissed at Wallstreet. And as wonderful as this is, I don't think that a Youtube Video can change that, as much as I'd like it to.

@turoksonofstone: So you are asking to us to become aware about the world arround us, that in life having things is not the real wealth, you are asking to us to be wealth in spirit, that we don't need such thing as a new car or more crap, just becoming aware about what are we? and what do we need?

@cattlebattle said:

@cattlebattle said:

Claiming to be "aware" through some video and actually being it are two different things...I actually agree with you and share similar interests with you going by some of your past posts so I don't want to be on bad terms, Its just the V/Fawkes mask thing irks me...like people are so simplistic they saw that movie and said "hey, we should totally protest while wearin those masks from that movie...cool"

That sounds like "Anonymous" (those crazy dudes that post in 4chan (/b/) and say, "Hey! we are awesome", I don't like them...

@cattlebattle said:

That sounds like "Anonymous" (those crazy dudes that post in 4chan (/b/) and say, "Hey! we are awesome", I don't like them...

@cattlebattle said:

LOL, yes, That mask is the official face of 4chan and wannabe anarchists everywhere

They are lame, they have never done something important and they claim to do, they are just crazy idiots without life...

@turoksonofstone said:

@cattlebattle said:

Claiming to be "aware" through some video and actually being it are two different things...I actually agree with you and share similar interests with you going by some of your past posts so I don't want to be on bad terms, Its just the V/Fawkes mask thing irks me...like people are so simplistic they saw that movie and said "hey, we should totally protest  while wearin those masks from that movie...cool"

@departed402: Maybe he wanted us to think about it...but yeah it is uneffective...

I think the video have been pretty self explanatory.

Also, if you think the the videos, or the protesters, or Anonymous are stupid or pointless be aware that nobody asked for your approval.

“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” - Samuel Adams

@departed402 said:

On a side note, V was justified in the film V for Vendetta, however the original Guy Fawkes was no grand revolutionary fighting for the individual, he was a Catholic terrorist!

HOW DARE YOU.

Awareness alone is pointless don't bother unless you intend to do something about what you're aware of, that's the whole problem with these awareness campaigns they all want you to know what's going on but very few actually offer any realistic solutions. It's like the free Tibet people, they're all about protesting in all the places it doesn't matter but I guarantee none of these people are willing to go to war with China which is the only way they're ever going to really free that place. Or all those celebrities who are all about A.I.D.S. awareness but won't donate money to help actually find a cure for it. So really if you aren't going to attempt to fix the problem there really is no point in knowing about it.

@cattlebattle said:

@Deadcool said:

@cattlebattle said:

That sounds like "Anonymous" (those crazy dudes that post in 4chan (/b/) and say, "Hey! we are awesome", I don't like them...

LOL, yes, That mask is the official face of 4chan and wannabe anarchists everywhere

I don't think "Anonymous" wants anarchy, I think their more about privacy, fair market, and lulz.

Awareness alone is pointless don't bother unless you intend to do something about what you're aware of, that's the whole problem with these awareness campaigns they all want you to know what's going on but very few actually offer any realistic solutions. It's like the free Tibet people, they're all about protesting in all the places it doesn't matter but I guarantee none of these people are willing to go to war with China which is the only way they're ever going to really free that place. Or all those celebrities who are all about A.I.D.S. awareness but won't donate money to help actually find a cure for it. So really if you aren't going to attempt to fix the problem there really is no point in knowing about it.

Open my third eye? No thanks.

@Rudyftw: Well Guy Fawkes was basically protesting against freedom of religion considering his ultimate goal was to force England to return to the Catholic church and basically bring back Catholic oppression of Protestants

@EVERYONE: When the Nazis took the Swastika, used it and marred with a connotation of hate and discrimination, nobody said "well actually it is a symbol of good luck"

Symbols are commandeered by people and groups every day, deal with it.

@turoksonofstone said:

thanks captain depression. XD

@departed402 said:

@turoksonofstone: Okay, I can see where that "Guy Fawkes was a Catholic terrorist" comment might have rubbed you the wrong way. I doubt we'll come to terms on that, so i'll just let it go. You still have not presented your viewpoint in a clear fashion, beyond "rebel!" So please what are you rebelling for/against?

The term terrorist is easily manipulated. By some accounts the Founding Fathers and Sons of Liberty were terrorists.

@one_upper said:

The term terrorist is easily manipulated. By some accounts the Founding Fathers and Sons of Liberty were terrorists.

Technically they were.

@Naos: That is what I am saying. We can chose who we apply the term to and who we don't based on our own preferences and convictions. Sure they are terrorists by definition, but most people will not accept or acknowledge this.

@one_upper: Definitely agreed. It's all about perspective because your terrorists are our freedom fighters.

Agreed.

@departed402: The Sons of Liberty actually burned down buildings and committed numerous acts of violence. Many of the founding fathers were members of the Sons of Liberty, even if they didn't personally partake in any of the violence.

Does anyone want to stray away from the terrorist conversation and just talk about how dumb this video is? It's just a series of generalizations and pretentious mumbo jumbo along with completely unrelated pictures.

Does anyone want to stray away from the terrorist conversation and just talk about how dumb this video is? It's just a series of generalizations and pretentious mumbo jumbo along with completely unrelated pictures.