@outside_85:
If the government, or should I say, cops, are standing on your doorstep? I am pretty sure the tune is different. Those old model cars however are not ones you'd normally drive around in, neither are they banned. If you make a gun illegal to have, then you can grandfather it as much as you like, it's still illegal to have it. Like if you have some cocaine lying around from your grandfather who worked at Coca Cola when they use that in it, thats still illegal even if it's super old.
Perhaps for some people, but some people love their guns so much, they are worth protecting with their lives.
The coca cola thing is a bad example, they used cocoa leaves. Not criminally made cocaine. You can go buy cocoa leaves right now if you want to, it will make your mouth numb (lol). It takes a lot more than what can be humanly consumed to get a cocaine high for cocoa leaves. Like 1/400th a grain of cocaine per drink that was taken from cocoa leaves. They never used real cocaine...
And then the first militia is either mowed down by professional soldiers or sent to prison for a million years and a big chunk of the others fold because things just got serious.
They know, but the war on drugs is even less pretty, more difficult and yet they are still fighting it. Yes, but how much money are the gun manufacturers throwing at the GOP to do this? Let me just say I find it really odd no one on the right is even concerned about this part. The NRA is practically run by the people and companies who make a living of making and selling weapons. They tell their members they are all about constitutional rights, yet everything they seem to do is some how increasing gun sales?
The government wouldn't use it's military to fight its own citizens ( I hope), it would be an act of repression which is something so unjust that it is only mimicked in communist nations. Many soldiers would have a problem with shooting Americans, and many soldiers are pro-gun rights. There will be huge trouble from people if the government goes after their guns. You assuming they wouldn't is quite a dangerous assumption, they already have ready-made militias and compounds to live on if something like that ever happened.
The NRA is the reason our second amendment is still shining bright. I want to buy guns, I want to shoot guns, I want to defend my property.
And thats a pretty big mistake in my eyes. I mean, when cops in Texas get called out somewhere, wouldn't they like to know if there are any guns around? Although it does kinda explain why cops in America in general open fire as readily as they do... they have to assume everyone is armed.
Yeah, everyone pretty much is armed. I have a CHL for example which is a license to carry a handgun. I can open or conceal carry freely in accordance with Texas Law. Most people aren't hyper aware of bulges made by other people's guns under their shirt unless you too are carrying. You will be surprised just how many other people carry concealed firearms, much more surprised in how many people owning ar 15's. I wouldn't fight against the government, but I would go to court over it and try to even reach the supreme court pertaining to the second amendment and/or just compensation for relinquishing my property if somehow the grandfather clause wasn't in effect.
Because adding more of the problem has never ever worked. Like car crashes wont decline just because cars get safer and safer to drive in, the static will just keep going up because people don't become better driver and because there are just more and more cars on the roads. Same with guns, they don't become safer just because there are more of them.
You can run away from a guy with a knife, and the guy with the knife is not going to be able to rake up the body count of a guy with a gun, since you can't outrun bullets.
Thing is that teachers and guards are there to protect the students, that means leading them to safety, not start western showdown... also it just means the shooter know to shoot the adults first, likely catching most of them off guard because the panic seems to be universal in all the shootings.
I've been in the army and run around with the M-16, I know enough, not that I needed to. Ban anything that can fire faster than the RoF limit? And yes, you can fire manually nearly as fast... but not for very long because your finger starts to hurt and you likely run out of shots. Also you are likely a terrible aim when doing this anyways.
And you are missing the point there. Every time you run out of ammo, you have to stop shooting and spend time replacing the clip giving people an opening to either escape or shoot back. The bigger your clip the less times you have to do this and the more pressure you can keep on the people you are aiming at.
In most cases of mass shootings, you are not dealing with a sniper, you are dealing with some dingleberry running around from room to room and shoots at whoever he finds.
If you have been in the army then yeah, you should know about guns. I grew up with them, my whole family are all gun nuts including me. A guy with a knife can achieve a massive body count, look at china and the train knife attack, a few guys went and killed 33 people and inured 130 all using knives. I'm not a runner, I am a big hunk of a man who probably couldn't outrun most athletic knife wielding foes. I wouldn't have to currently as I am armed. No one (unless they have bullet vest and such) has an advantage on me, I can fight at the very least 50-50 against someone trying to kill me. I will never be at a disadvantage since I can carry around a 9 mm.
Replacing a pre-loaded clip takes less than a second, I'll record me doing it with a handgun if you don't believe me.
Think someone would have chances to get up from behind something and escape? All you have to do is press the mag release, grab another clip, stick it in and press the slide release and you can shoot again. It doesn't matter really how big the magazines are as you can switch them out within a second behind cover. I carry 2 extra mags with my firearm at all times and I still feel under geared.
And yet the body count is not on the scale of American shootouts, not are they anywhere nearly as frequent as they are in America. As for Mexico... how many mass-shooting weapons have been traced back to Mexico? I thought Americans generally stuck with buying American guns? Also Germany has neighbours like Poland which borders Ukraine and then Russia. You can hop in your car in Berlin and drive to Moscow. And you could use a chair against a knifeman if you really wanted to.
The point isn't current, cartels can't make a profit on legal items. I live about a 45 minute drive from the Mexican border in south eastern Texas. Cartels and smuggling is a big problem along with gang violence. The cartels make HUGE profit from illegal drugs to the point that you can buy any drug you want on the same street you live. Lets look at Germany, illegal guns in Germany is a huge problem. Now apply that to America who has smuggling cartels willing to profit off of anything where there is demand.
A knifeman has a huge advantage over you even if you have a chair. named a knife can kill you quite easily, but a chair cannot kill him easily.
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