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Posted by StealthGrey (226 posts) 1 month, 10 days ago

Poll: Why is Captain Marvel so Cocky? (95 votes)

Her optimism is misplaced, Thanos would spanks her hard 48%
According to Mr. Feige, She will most likely solo Thanos 13%
She's just doesn't know who IG Thanos is 31%
Maybe she has something up her sleeve 8%

The latest clip from A4: Endgame

"You didn't have me.."

What is wrong with her?

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#1 Posted by gamiz7 (1396 posts) - - Show Bio

im guessing she seen too many crazy stuff in space to be shocked by anything

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#2 Posted by MetalJimmor (6539 posts) - - Show Bio

Because she is the single most powerful character the Avengers have ever met.

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#3 Edited by TobyMaguire (399 posts) - - Show Bio
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WHY CANT SHE BE MORE HUMBLE LIKE TONY, THOR, STARLORD, DRAX, DR STRANGE?

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#4 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (6555 posts) - - Show Bio

She just seems confident in her abilities.

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#5 Posted by Supermanthor (20005 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by kgb725 (19196 posts) - - Show Bio

If Thor can be confident with SB I dotn see why she cant be confident here

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#7 Posted by Jgames (8186 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean she strong and while I personally do not care for her, and rather she not be in the movie, people need to relax. She a a cocky superhero like so many other cocky superheroes.

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#8 Edited by The_living_tribunal_24 (6555 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Edited by Lan_Fan (14722 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not about her confidence, it's the part where she underestimates the rest of the Avengers. By that line, we know that she sees the rest of her team as inferiors. Basically saying —"Well, you guys failed because you guys suck, I don't suck, so let's go."— What's the difference?

The way she's saying it is also annoying as heck, expressionless, no charisma, and just comes out as annoying.

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#10 Edited by Supermanthor (20005 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: her personality makes me thinking that marvel is planning a story for her where her overconfidence will screw her big time in a future movie Chances are high that these will happen in CM2 then CM 3 will be all about redemption of her

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#11 Posted by TobyMaguire (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan said:

It's not about her confidence, it's the part where she underestimates the rest of the Avengers. By that line, we know that she sees the rest of her team as inferiors. Basically saying —"Well, you guys failed because you guys suck, I don't suck, so let's go."— What's the difference?

The way she's saying it is also annoying as heck, expressionless, no charisma, and just comes out as annoying.

ONLY THOR SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SEE THE REST OF THE AVENGERS AS INFERIOR

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#12 Posted by The_Hajduk (6304 posts) - - Show Bio

What people don't get about Cap Marvel is that she's not written significantly differently then any other MCU hero. She's effectively just a gender swapped MCU hero, but if she were a man, she'd be exactly like Thor or Cap.

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#13 Posted by DaywaIker (43 posts) - - Show Bio

cause the far left feminazis want her to be the most powerful. she will probaly solo thanos.

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#14 Posted by Gokluma (8778 posts) - - Show Bio

Carol is Cell saga's Vegeta of this group by the cockiness.

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#15 Posted by ANTHP2000 (27733 posts) - - Show Bio

Because she's a "one woman Avengers". Sure as hell Fury beeped that pager the last moment of his life because it's somewhat of a game changer. But of course people are gonna act like she called the rest of he team useless or whatever, because "MUH MEAN BAD EVIL FEMINAGENDA NAZI CAROLZ".

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#16 Posted by Lan_Fan (14722 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Nah, not sure about that. She's a Mary Sue after all.

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#17 Edited by Lan_Fan (14722 posts) - - Show Bio

@tobymaguire said:
@lan_fan said:

It's not about her confidence, it's the part where she underestimates the rest of the Avengers. By that line, we know that she sees the rest of her team as inferiors. Basically saying —"Well, you guys failed because you guys suck, I don't suck, so let's go."— What's the difference?

The way she's saying it is also annoying as heck, expressionless, no charisma, and just comes out as annoying.

ONLY THOR SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SEE THE REST OF THE AVENGERS AS INFERIOR

When was that even implied? All Thor and the rest of the Avengers ever did were hyping themselves up, not looking down to others.

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#18 Edited by Lan_Fan (14722 posts) - - Show Bio

@tobymaguire: You know what? Keep it to yourself. I don't want to hear your thoughts on this matter, or probably on anything, tbh.

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#19 Posted by TheNoobStomper (795 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not sure but i hope she gets rekt by Thanos.

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#20 Posted by WhyZoSerious (1774 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by TobyMaguire (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: GO RUN AND HIDE IN YOUR SAFE SPACE

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#22 Posted by foxerdes (10256 posts) - - Show Bio

Because we've been told way too many times what she is instead of seeing that. Show don't tell; the most basic rule. You don't just start poking the viewers with a stick saying "I've got super-powerful character that will seemingly overshadow characters you've grown fond of over the years."

Captain Marvel apologists need to understand that her behavior isn't the main root of the problem -- the way she was being advertised is. First impression is incredibly hard to change and after such controversial introduction it's hard to blame people being harsh on Carol.

Hopefully it's going to halt over time. The motive of cavalry arriving to help is darn cool.

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#23 Posted by PayneInTheAss (11763 posts) - - Show Bio

Just as Thor, Iron Man, Star-Lord, Strange...

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#25 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (9358 posts) - - Show Bio

She doesn't know who IG Thanos is.

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#26 Posted by Triplek (232 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: but thors confidence is likable unlike carols which is straight up annoying,

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#27 Posted by TobyMaguire (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@triplek said:

@kgb725: but thors confidence is likable unlike carols which is straight up annoying,

JEEZ, I wonder Why?

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#28 Edited by huthimamwa (2547 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay....just before Thor calls StormBreaker over at the 49 second mark, turn up your volume. You can clearly hear a whispery voice saying "I have Telepathy".

That's...uhh....really weird. Right?

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#29 Posted by GateOfBabylon (4371 posts) - - Show Bio

She just probably hasn't met any tough opponents since she had her powers unlocked.

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#30 Posted by Gaoron (8965 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokluma said:

Carol is Cell saga's Vegeta of this group by the cockiness.

Hope she's gonna end up exacly like Vegeta too... with Thanos breaking her back and pride.

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#31 Posted by kgb725 (19196 posts) - - Show Bio

@triplek said:

@kgb725: but thors confidence is likable unlike carols which is straight up annoying,

JEEZ, I wonder Why?

Not to mention Thor and the Revengers got their asses kicked easily. I dont see what was endearing about it

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#32 Edited by Gokluma (8778 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: Me too like Thanos did this to Carol

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Or any cool finisher attack to finally pwn carol's pride

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#33 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16518 posts) - - Show Bio

She’s confident.

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#34 Posted by Magian (151725 posts) - - Show Bio

Well whether you like her or not, no one can deny she is powerful. Plus most likely she has no idea how strong Thanos actually is.

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#35 Posted by Darkthunder (2610 posts) - - Show Bio

Optimism misplaced. She has never fought someone as mad as mad titan. She is so close to becoming a live action manvers

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#36 Posted by Laurus (1622 posts) - - Show Bio

It seems like she sees the rest of the Avengers as beneath her.

The difference between when Thor shows confidence and Cap shows confidence is Thor is actually funny. Marvel just comes off as a egotysical ****.

Her wooden face doesn't help here either.

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#38 Posted by BruceRogers (17448 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread is hilarious.

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#39 Posted by WoahPerk (100 posts) - - Show Bio

I really do hope she kicks Thanos' ass and becomes the face of the MCU just to spite all these annoying ass man-babies, like damn stfu already. This circle wank must make you all feel so powerful as you sit behind a screen on a message board collectively hating on a fictional superhero and her actor because they have become one in your tiny brain LMAO

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#40 Edited by Supermanthor (20005 posts) - - Show Bio

I still think her confidence will screw her big time just like Tony in im3

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#41 Posted by WoahPerk (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@triplek said:

@kgb725: but thors confidence is likable unlike carols which is straight up annoying,

JEEZ, I wonder Why?

It's because they like men, and I mean REALLY from what I've seen on this site. And they only wanna see their favorite super boyfriend be arrogant and take charge. Ironman and Doctor Strange have behaved in same manner and never got any hate. Someone even made a thread comparing Carol to Steve.

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#42 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (4550 posts) - - Show Bio

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WHY CANT SHE BE MORE HUMBLE LIKE TONY, THOR, STARLORD, DRAX, DR STRANGE?

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So much this!

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#43 Posted by silvanus (910 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not her arrogance that's bugging me. It's the timing. She is basically planning to go up against him just like that. We don't know if she has a plan. If she do, then I'm fine with it. From what it's shown, the only reason she give as to why it will be different is that she is there. That sort of sounds like an insult and it came at a time when the Avengers were already burdened by defeat.

On a side note, there are many reasons why Thor's arrogance is considered okay and not Carol's. This has nothing to do with gender. It's because Thor earned his powers and we've seen the struggles he endured to get this far. Carol on the other hand just became strong by an accident. And Thor's arrogance in infinity war felt like him trying to be optimistic. His line 'what more could I lose' made me feel that he is aware that this may not necessarily end well.

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#44 Edited by CCThor (1517 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see the problem here.

It's just normally trash talk.

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#45 Edited by FaradaySloth (10015 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony- 9 Films, set up his personality, has great character depth, development, etc. we already know and expect this.

Thor- 7 Films, set up his personality, has great character depth, development, etc. we already know and expect this.

Carol- 1 Film, no personality, a terrible character with no depth nor development, and we know little to zilch on who she is.

Carol-riders continue to amaze me with their lack of understanding when it comes to comparisons.

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#46 Posted by rogueshadow (29360 posts) - - Show Bio

She's spent over 20 years sweeping through the cosmos wrecking shop. Her being overconfident and brash isn't the problem, they can just be personality traits she has, that's fine. Her coming in and eclipsing the entire team after being introduced less than 2 months prior would be a problem, and that's what people are fearing. Hopefully they don't go that route.

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#47 Posted by Amcu (16896 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think that shows her as cocky. She's probably mad that a bunch of people she knew just died and wants to go kill the person that did it.

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#48 Posted by Doofasa (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe we should wait until we’ve seen the movie before we pass judgment?

There could be a hundred different reasons why she said that. Maybe she knows something they don’t. Maybe she is arrogant and will be humbled (like Thor 1) by Thanos. Maybe she’s just confident in her abilities. Maybe she’s an OP feminazi. Maybe y’all find a powerful woman to be a threat to your manhood.

The point is we don’t know and we should quit whinging about it until we know the context.

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#49 Posted by Mrnoital (8093 posts) - - Show Bio

people saying she can be as cocky as Tony, Thor, Starlord, Strange... what you're forgetting is that all these characters were humbled before becoming confident, they wen't through a journey

Tony was kept hostage hidden in a cave, learned that his entire lives work was killing innocent people and he changed, thor was stripped of his powers, learned what it is to be human, changed and gained his worthiness, starlord spent years fearing for his life thinking the aliens that kidnapped him were going to eat him, forcing him to gain skills that keep him alive, but also mentally stunted him to the point where he has childlike confidence from when he was kidnapped, and strange spent a lot of time with his shattered hands, spent his entire fortune and changed vastly

Carol actually made no real development, she didn't change or grow, the second she learned she was with the bad guys she changed sides without question and didn't show an ounce of conflict fighting and seemingly killing people she might have known for the last few years, even though they might not know they're on the wrong side

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#50 Edited by FangDaNerd (1629 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel like this is going to be a Hulk situation where since she has beaten every foe that came across her she'll underestimate and think she can take Thanos alone which will backfire on her, leading to more teamwork with the Avengers.