Episode 8 was great. The scenes with May and Robin were awesome. And I love that we’re finally getting answers,
Also - did Fitzsimmons just design a time machine? Looks like we know who the new smartest ones in the MCU are...
The Momma May stuff was just too good, I love that it accomplishes two things, May having a child she could never have with Andrew and repenting for what happened in Bahrain. That's a character coming full circle if I ever seen it.
Also when Robin called May mom...who's cutting onions under my couch?
Episode 8 was great. The scenes with May and Robin were awesome. And I love that we’re finally getting answers,
Also - did Fitzsimmons just design a time machine? Looks like we know who the new smartest ones in the MCU are...
The Momma May stuff was just too good, I love that it accomplishes two things, May having a child she could never have with Andrew and repenting for what happened in Bahrain. That's a character coming full circle if I ever seen it.
Also when Robin called May mom...who's cutting onions under my couch?
@the_magister: It's the closest AoS has came to making me cry. I was pretty misty by the end of it. This is probably the most emotionally taxing episode.
The alternate future/timeline stuff or whatever was really heavy.
@angeljax: May...........oh man. She really has come full circle. I love the Cavalry. Ming Na Wen's acting was phenomenal in this episode. I literally wanted to give her a hug by the end of this episode.
@the_magister: "She's not here but don't worry, I'll stay with you."
"I'll stay here until you fall asleep"
Why is AoS trying to make us cry on Fridays?
The best bits are when May was literally the only person to have faith and remain optimistic after everything, which is something we've never seen from her. A broken and tired Fitz but a hopeful May. That was by far my favorite scene. The acting this episode all-around was phenomenal.
@the_magister: @angeljax: Yeah the character development for May this episode was so great. Just another reason why AoS is one of the best shows on air. I loved how the interplayed the flashbacks/flashforwards along with the present day scenes in general, but the stuff with May was, I think, some of the best emotional scenes AoS has ever done.
Oh yeah, definitely. Honestly, I may just be an AoS fanboy, but I really think the show is notch above the rest of the MCU (including Netflix shows and even the movies) in terms of sheer quality of writing. More than anyone else, I get the feeling that the AoS showrunners and writers really get their characters.
Oh yeah, definitely. Honestly, I may just be an AoS fanboy, but I really think the show is notch above the rest of the MCU (including Netflix shows and even the movies) in terms of sheer quality of writing. More than anyone else, I get the feeling that the AoS showrunners and writers really get their characters.
It's definitely above the Netflix shows and films, imo
Oh yeah, definitely. Honestly, I may just be an AoS fanboy, but I really think the show is notch above the rest of the MCU (including Netflix shows and even the movies) in terms of sheer quality of writing. More than anyone else, I get the feeling that the AoS showrunners and writers really get their characters.
It's definitely above the Netflix shows and films, imo
@blackspidey2099: It's for sure above the Netflix shows. The thing that only really comes close is Jessica Jones imo, but even that doesn't compare to AoS' later seasons.
I'd put it above a lot of the flims as well. It's given a lot more room to breath and more time to fully flesh out the storyline and its characters. It's really a shame that movie side of the MCU isn't acknowledging it.
Definitely loved the May development, it was needed and boy did the AoS team deliver. Just phenomenal. I can't wait to get the full story, but I'm also really happy with what we got. Deke's still a dick, a pragmatic one, but still a dick. And interesting that they (flashback team) knew who Voss was. Seems like there've been loops before and we just avoided the one in which Voss killed Daisy.
Excellent episode, though I didn't completely understood the flashbacks.
How was the team supposed to have lived the destruction of Earth and lived in the lighthouse for a time if they were taken in the past before all that happened and dropped in the future ??
I just keep thinking how the Guardians of the Galaxy would come to rescue everyone in the lighthouse if this stuff actually happened and the MCU acknowledged it.
Excellent episode, though I didn't completely understood the flashbacks.
How was the team supposed to have lived the destruction of Earth and lived in the lighthouse for a time if they were taken in the past before all that happened and dropped in the future ??
From my understanding
2091 - The team arrives from 2017. Collects info on how to save the world. Robin Dies. Team finds a way to travel back. Robin considers this the last day.
2018 - Team arrives a few months after the diner abduction and attempts to save the world with the knowledge they've acquired. Daisy disappears. The last location she was seen is evacuated and a 12.8M earthquake cracks the earth like an egg. No witnesses to Daisy causing the event. Daisy is never seen again. Remaining team evacuates to the lighthouse. Robin's mother is dead by this point. May crashes Zephyr One on the way due to a gravity storm.
2022 - Lighthouse, encrusted into a chunk of Earth, is now floating in space and suffering from potential critical system failures. Fitz and Simmons start to design the schematics for the time machine.
2024-2025 - Some point after the 2022 events, the Kree are now in play. They provide power and water upgrades to the lighthouse in exchange for human servitude. Yoyo goes to war. May seems to have adopted Robin by this point.
2025-2060 - All team members that have lived through the post-apocalyptic world are presumed dead with the exceptions of Robin and the orbiting CryoFitz+Enoch duo.
2070s - Deke's mother is working on the time machine. She's eventually killed by Kree during this period. Deke's father continues her work.
Late 2080s - Deke's father is sent to the surface.
2091 - Time Machine finished with the help of FitzSimmons schematics. The survivors on Earth open a portal to the past. Return to the top.
The Flashbacks could be alternate branching timelines or what would definitively happen if the Agents hadn't left 2018. Robin is experiencing everything though, so that adds more complexity as to whether or not time is truly fixed like how Fitz insists it is.
I just keep thinking how the Guardians of the Galaxy would come to rescue everyone in the lighthouse if this stuff actually happened and the MCU acknowledged it.
The Guardians occur concurrent to the MCU timeline. 2018 is when they'll join the Avengers to stop Thanos. None of them would be alive in 2091.
Excellent episode, though I didn't completely understood the flashbacks.
How was the team supposed to have lived the destruction of Earth and lived in the lighthouse for a time if they were taken in the past before all that happened and dropped in the future ??
From my understanding
2091 - The team arrives from 2017. Collects info on how to save the world. Robin Dies. Team finds a way to travel back. Robin considers this the last day.
2018 - Team arrives a few months after the diner abduction and attempts to save the world with the knowledge they've acquired. Daisy disappears. The last location she was seen is evacuated and a 12.8M earthquake cracks the earth like an egg. No witnesses to Daisy causing the event. Daisy is never seen again. Remaining team evacuates to the lighthouse. Robin's mother is dead by this point. May crashes Zephyr One on the way due to a gravity storm.
2022 - Lighthouse, encrusted into a chunk of Earth, is now floating in space and suffering from potential critical system failures. Fitz and Simmons start to design the schematics for the time machine.
2024-2025 - Some point after the 2022 events, the Kree are now in play. They provide power and water upgrades to the lighthouse in exchange for human servitude. Yoyo goes to war. May seems to have adopted Robin by this point.
2025-2060 - All team members that have lived through the post-apocalyptic world are presumed dead with the exceptions of Robin and the orbiting CryoFitz+Enoch duo.
2070s - Deke's mother is working on the time machine. She's eventually killed by Kree during this period. Deke's father continues her work.
Late 2080s - Deke's father is sent to the surface.
2091 - Time Machine finished with the help of FitzSimmons schematics. The survivors on Earth open a portal to the past. Return to the top.
The Flashbacks could be alternate branching timelines or what would definitively happen if the Agents hadn't left 2018. Robin is experiencing everything though, so that adds more complexity as to whether or not time is truly fixed like how Fitz insists it is.
It's possible they're experiencing a time loop. They keep getting taken > learning something > going back > failing to save the world. Rinse and repeat. It's possible every loop has small differences depending on what they try. By Fitz's line that Daisy couldn't stop it, it's a loop in which she goes alone to fight (possibly Gravitron, my first thought of the Earth's destruction since the premiere) and potentially causes a 12.8 earthquake (maybe not alon0,e but with the clash of her powers and her enemy's) which seals the deal of the Earth's destruction. Fitz also says that Voss couldn't stop it, alluding to the loop we just avoided where he tried to kill Daisy and he actually succeeds in that one. It would also explain why Robin seems to have the past, present and future more mixed up than what we saw prior to this episode, she can't differentiate them because they're all essential to a time loop.
I just keep thinking how the Guardians of the Galaxy would come to rescue everyone in the lighthouse if this stuff actually happened and the MCU acknowledged it.
The Guardians occur concurrent to the MCU timeline. 2018 is when they'll join the Avengers to stop Thanos. None of them would be alive in 2091.
Yeah, but way before that, if the GOTG hear the Earth was destroyed and Kree are making the remaining humans their slaves, they'd certainly go to help, mostly due to Quill.
@thor_parker82: I honestly don't think he would. They really have no means to know what's really going on earth now that I think bout it. Unless they go out of their way to do so.
@thor_parker82: I honestly don't think he would. They really have no means to know what's really going on earth now that I think bout it. Unless they go out of their way to do so.
They're off guarding their sector of the galaxy.
I'm pretty sure they'd find out one way or another.
@thor_parker82: Same reasons the Avengers did not assemble in Iron Man 3 and Hulk did not squash the Insight Hellicarreers. Or why Superman does not go and save Gotham when Batman is in a bind.
@thor_parker82: Same reasons the Avengers did not assemble in Iron Man 3 and Hulk did not squash the Insight Hellicarreers. Or why Superman does not go and save Gotham when Batman is in a bind.
I know, just saying that it would logically happen if it was a fully inter-connected world, Thor would also help, Xandar may help, they seem like good guys who are already enemies of the Kree, they'd probably wouldn't stand still knowing that the Kree are holding hostage the last vestiges of humanity.
@thor_parker82: Why would Xander break the peace treaty keeping their planets save to help earth? The Kree are doing terrible shit all over the galaxy and nobody is just rushing in there either, because the krees are a galactic superpower that could retaliate. Its not like Xander or the Guardians showed up to fight off the Chitauri or Dark Elves. And Thor was probably not exactly in any position to help with Thanos floating around outside his spaceship at the end of ragnarok and all.
@the_magister: Probably not on feats. They really only have a fraction of screentime the others have. But I feel like they're written and portrayed to be on the same level
Am I the only one mad the first half of episode 9 was stuff we have already seen? Huge waste of time
Yeah, because we've already seen Mack and Yo-Yo leading a revolt, the Humans on the Lighthouse giving the finger to Kasuis/Kree and a resurrected Tess...
@angeljax: I feel like Ward would be his best matchup, but I think Ward edges him out due to his strength advantage. Danny doesnt fare well vs stronger competition.
Am I the only one mad the first half of episode 9 was stuff we have already seen? Huge waste of time
Yeah, because we've already seen Mack and Yo-Yo leading a revolt, the Humans on the Lighthouse giving the finger to Kasuis/Kree and a resurrected Tess...
I don't think Clint and Widow are that that much better than the AoS peeps, especially May who for reference was explicitly stated to possess more black belts than Widow. And Ward and Bobbi have matched/and or beat her.
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