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#1551 Posted by deactivated-5c6c6de088804 (3539 posts) - - Show Bio

@platinumthorns: More like, people were worried Ewing would legitimately try to include more speech bubbles like that, turning the book into just another political fest disguised as a comic book.

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#1552 Posted by IntoTheVoid (1295 posts) - - Show Bio

@platinumthorns: More like, people were worried Ewing would legitimately try to include more speech bubbles like that, turning the book into just another political fest disguised as a comic book.

Pretty much this, i am one of the people that discussed this with Ewing on twitter and once he gave that explanation i was relieved cause he did not view it as simple as Jackie is black therefore every single experience she has is worse than Banners because Banner is white, his take was way more nuanced than that. There are things Jackie was disparaged about and then there are things Banner was more disparaged about then her(he specifically mentions Banner being abused as a child for instance). So yea i was satisfied with the answer he gave in the end.

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#1553 Posted by IchiNiSanji (499 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeesh too much talking about that line when it seems clear what the intent was

Anyway, I like how there's references to lines taken from the incredible hulk 1 like rick jones' "it was a gas" and ross' gutless milksop

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Really sold the whole them being shells repeating old dialogue.

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#1554 Posted by Thedailybagel (12653 posts) - - Show Bio

@intothevoid: I also asked Al about Rulk and he gave an admittedly expected cryptic answer. Pretty much that it could be either Hulk is stronger or Rulk is weaker or even a bit of both, but that we’ll have more examples to compare it to so that we can form our own opinions.

So looks like hulk is gonna be going up against other dead characters as well.

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#1555 Posted by IntoTheVoid (1295 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel: Yea i saw that, it figures Al would do that, in fact it's a pretty good opportunity to have Hulk fight some dead enemies. Next 2 issues should be a lot of fun.

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#1556 Posted by medulaoblaganda (2156 posts) - - Show Bio

Base on issue 10, someone was asking if Immortal hulk gamma powers actually came from hell. I'm curious to know if that's true because it looks like Al Ewing has kinda change few things about Hulk.

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#1557 Posted by PlatinumThorns (54 posts) - - Show Bio

@medulaoblaganda: I don't think there's anything suggesting Gamma mutates powers specifically, come from Hell, but Gamma transformation events do to tend to blast open inter-dimensional portals aka "green doors" which allows transportation and certain mutates to resurrect themselves as well. Though, I'm curious myself as to why this is even the case. Maybe there's a deity or abstract of sorts behind it all that controls these hidden facts behind the scenes? Maybe...It's the One Below All?

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#1558 Posted by medulaoblaganda (2156 posts) - - Show Bio

@platinumthorns: Since its not mentioned that his powers comes from hell, then i will say the rumor is false unless it is mentioned in immortal hulk comics. I hope his gamma power don't come from hell because that doesn't make sense, i guess. I found a theory about the green door. Can i post it here?

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#1559 Edited by Schwarz (584 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't posted in a long time but the whole white priviledge things is completly stupid. McGee talks about everyone being nice to Hulk whatever he does... Hulk spent more than half of his comic book life being chased by the army and the police to get him arrested or even killed. His background has NOTHING of white priviledge on the contrary, his whole background story is a mess and reaks of unfairness. They used him as a weapon when needed. The whole thing was retarded just like a lot of what Marvel is trying to push lately. They tried to paint it as Bruce Banner being forgiven for whatever he does because he is white by cherry picking a few times Hulk has been treated decently yet when looking at the facts, Hulk and Banner have rarely been treated right and been treated like trash, chased, hunted and used for the most part of his comic book life.

Besides that, the series is amazing, which makes me a little more mad than I should be. I got used to the whole SJW BS of Marvel and just not reading a lot of their books besides this series which was clean of propaganda so far.

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#1561 Posted by bonifidehustla (258 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't read DC in a while but are they doing the SJW bs too. I have to agree Banner is far from white privilege. Hell heroes and villains hunt him all the time. The most praised heroes are the biggest hypocrites when they deal with Hulk. You can tell he was forced to put this in because this came out of nowhere.

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#1562 Posted by IntoTheVoid (1295 posts) - - Show Bio

Pak Unleashes Marvel's Most Lethal Living Weapons in Hulkverines

In 1974's Incredible Hulk #181, Len Wein and Herb Trimpe created one of Marvel Comics most enduring rivalries by pitting the titular Jade Giant against Wolverine, who also made his first appearance in that landmark issue. In the decades that followed Wolverine and the Hulk have squared off in a number of brutal battles, but in 2017 the rogue scientists of the Weapon X program created a being that could potentially cause more devastation than both characters. That being is Clayton Cortez, a former soldier who was given the fantastic abilities of both the Hulk and Wolverine. Fortunately, Clay was rather strong-willed broke free from the sinister scientists that transformed him into a “Hulkverine.”

The current Weapon H series by Clay's co-creator, writer Greg Pak, has chronicled the title character's quest to reunite with his family and deal with the diabolical machinations of the Roxxon Corporation. That series concludes in January's Weapon H #12, and when it wraps, Clay will move on to the toughest battle he's ever faced.That's because, when Weapon H was created, both Wolverine and Bruce Banner were dead, but now they're back and looking to confront the man with both of their abilities. The duo call on Clay in February's Hulkverines #1, the kick off to a three-issue miniseries by Pak and artists Ario Anindito and Guiu Villanova. But will they come as friend or foe? And how will the nasty, new, immortal incarnation of the Hulk view both Clay and Wolverine? For the answers to those questions and more, CBR spoke with Pak about the miniseries.

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CBR: Greg, Wolverine and the Hulk have a long history of brutal battles, so what's it like bringing Weapon H, a character with both of their abilities, into that mix?

Greg Pak: It's a blast. From the beginning of the series, we knew we wanted to have Weapon H meet Wolverine and Hulk. But Logan and Banner were pretty famously dead for most of the Weapon H run. Now, they're back on the table and we're finally getting to cut loose with 'em. I love this story because of the potential for ridiculous, bombastic action, but mostly for the emotional electricity we get here. Our hero, Clay Cortez, is a soldier who's been given the powers of both Hulk and Wolverine. Like Banner and Logan, Clay has his own dark past. So, there's a very interesting chance to see how Clay and Logan and Banner react to each other, to play with how they might help or hurt each other given how similar they are in so many ways. But at the same time, Clay's very different from Banner and Logan in a number of crucial ways, and that'll all play a huge role in the story's big emotional surprises and twists.

What can you tell us about the focus and perspectives of Hulkverines? Will all three characters get spotlight moments?

In the first issue, we'll focus on Weapon H and Banner. In the second issue, we'll bring Wolverine into the mix. In the third issue, all hell breaks loose in every way conceivable with all three characters -- and our big villains. As with everything we've ever done with this series, we're taking everything way too far, so get ready for some wild action and massive character moments.

Hulkverines marks the first time you're writing the Immortal incarnation of the Hulk. What's it like writing this version of the character?

It's been a blast! Al Ewing is doing something special with the Immortal Hulk book and it's fun to be able to play in his sandbox here. He wrote up a great document with some notes about what makes this version of Banner/Hulk distinct, and that's been great. He also read the first outline for Hulkverines and tossed in a few thoughts, which were very helpful.

Charles Soule is still unpacking the mystery surrounding Logan in his Return of Wolverine miniseries. So, what can you tell us about your take on Logan in this series?

We're not going to spoil any mysteries Charles is building, but our story definitely fits into his continuity.

My take on Logan is pretty much the same as my take on Logan always is. He's a badass with a heart of gold who does what has to be done regardless of the cost to his own body and soul. In this story, we have the added bonus of his relationship with Banner. I always love seeing Logan and Banner together. They're very similar in some ways, struggling with a monster within. But they're so different in personality that they're a blast to write together. And now we get to play with both them and Clay -- and Clay's family -- which sets up some tremendous character beats that I can't wait for folks to see.

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What kind of state of mind is Weapon H in at the beginning of this series? How does Clay initially feel about having to tangle with the returned Hulk and Wolverine?

Without spoiling too much, at the beginning of this story, Clay and his family are in a pretty great place, actually! But of course complications ensue due to a certain classic Hulk villain that I'm having a massive amount of fun writing, but I can't yet reveal -- oh, you know what? I'm just gonna tell you. It's the Leader! I wrote a ton of Hulk stories over the years, but have only used the Leader a little, so it's a blast to let him cut loose here in a big, fun way.

We've touched upon this a little bit already, but what other teases can you give us about the action in Hulkverines? How big and brutal do things get?

I don't want to spoil too much, but we start in a kind of small, secret way. A bit like the classic Banner-on-the-run or Logan-on-the-road intrigue/mystery stories. And we build from there in increasingly big ways until a classically Weapon H-esque over-the-top finale in our third issue.

What's it like working with Weapon H artists Ario Anindito and Guiu Villanova on this book? It feels like a story that could be both incredibly work intensive and a lot of fun for your artists.

Ario and Guiu are both fantastic and are delivering killer pages. I love both of those artists because they clearly love the big action, the big emotion and the humor that's all essential to these Weapon H stories. We cut between small domestic moments with Clay and his wife and kids and massive fights with unbelievable monsters, and Ario and Guiu just knock it all out of the park.

I'm happy that these issues are all oversized -- 30 pages each! So we've got some room to let the action breathe and really play out, and I hope that's fun for Ario and Guiu as well.

Finally, does Hulkverines spin out of developments in January's Weapon H #12? I assume it's also very accessible for new readers as well, correct?

Yes, the story follows directly from Weapon H #12, so if you've been reading Weapon H, you definitely wanna get Hulkverines! At the same time, I'm writing the series so that you can jump on board for the very first time with Hulkverines and enjoy the heck out of it. So come on board!

I'd like to conclude by thanking all the readers who have supported this book and these characters from the beginning. I particularly appreciate all the folks who have responded so strongly to Clay's family -- his wife Sonia and the kids and Grandma. It can be rare to have a functional family in a superhero story, and I love that this domestic unit has resonated so much with readers. They're hugely fun to write, particularly in a book that otherwise involves so much over-the-top action.

Thanks so much and see you in Hulkverines!

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I know the link was already posted but i thought i just copy paste the whole thing here, full interview of Weapon H, Hulk and Logan mini-series.

Personally i am loving the fact that Pak is taking notes from Ewing on how this Hulk would act in certain situations, them working close together tells me Pak will stay true to this interpretation of the Hulk. From the rest of the interview i gather this is gonna be a fun mini-series big on action and character moments.

I am actually looking forward to this a lot now.

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#1563 Posted by biswaboxz (3638 posts) - - Show Bio
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@intothevoid: Is that Clayton? I mean he could have reverted back to his human form again. The art looks cool though. @jay_z94

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#1564 Posted by IntoTheVoid (1295 posts) - - Show Bio

@biswaboxz: Yea i think that's Clayton chasing Banner. The art looks pretty good.

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#1565 Edited by biswaboxz (3638 posts) - - Show Bio

@intothevoid: Yeah the art looks good. And that look on Banner's face, at end of the panel is.....WOW. Well it's a mini series and it's good to see Greg Pak again.

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Pak Unleashes Marvel's Most Lethal Living Weapons in Hulkverines

In 1974's Incredible Hulk #181, Len Wein and Herb Trimpe created one of Marvel Comics most enduring rivalries by pitting the titular Jade Giant against Wolverine, who also made his first appearance in that landmark issue. In the decades that followed Wolverine and the Hulk have squared off in a number of brutal battles, but in 2017 the rogue scientists of the Weapon X program created a being that could potentially cause more devastation than both characters. That being is Clayton Cortez, a former soldier who was given the fantastic abilities of both the Hulk and Wolverine. Fortunately, Clay was rather strong-willed broke free from the sinister scientists that transformed him into a “Hulkverine.”

The current Weapon H series by Clay's co-creator, writer Greg Pak, has chronicled the title character's quest to reunite with his family and deal with the diabolical machinations of the Roxxon Corporation. That series concludes in January's Weapon H #12, and when it wraps, Clay will move on to the toughest battle he's ever faced.That's because, when Weapon H was created, both Wolverine and Bruce Banner were dead, but now they're back and looking to confront the man with both of their abilities. The duo call on Clay in February's Hulkverines #1, the kick off to a three-issue miniseries by Pak and artists Ario Anindito and Guiu Villanova. But will they come as friend or foe? And how will the nasty, new, immortal incarnation of the Hulk view both Clay and Wolverine? For the answers to those questions and more, CBR spoke with Pak about the miniseries.

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CBR: Greg, Wolverine and the Hulk have a long history of brutal battles, so what's it like bringing Weapon H, a character with both of their abilities, into that mix?

Greg Pak: It's a blast. From the beginning of the series, we knew we wanted to have Weapon H meet Wolverine and Hulk. But Logan and Banner were pretty famously dead for most of the Weapon H run. Now, they're back on the table and we're finally getting to cut loose with 'em. I love this story because of the potential for ridiculous, bombastic action, but mostly for the emotional electricity we get here. Our hero, Clay Cortez, is a soldier who's been given the powers of both Hulk and Wolverine. Like Banner and Logan, Clay has his own dark past. So, there's a very interesting chance to see how Clay and Logan and Banner react to each other, to play with how they might help or hurt each other given how similar they are in so many ways. But at the same time, Clay's very different from Banner and Logan in a number of crucial ways, and that'll all play a huge role in the story's big emotional surprises and twists.

What can you tell us about the focus and perspectives of Hulkverines? Will all three characters get spotlight moments?

In the first issue, we'll focus on Weapon H and Banner. In the second issue, we'll bring Wolverine into the mix. In the third issue, all hell breaks loose in every way conceivable with all three characters -- and our big villains. As with everything we've ever done with this series, we're taking everything way too far, so get ready for some wild action and massive character moments.

Hulkverines marks the first time you're writing the Immortal incarnation of the Hulk. What's it like writing this version of the character?

It's been a blast! Al Ewing is doing something special with the Immortal Hulk book and it's fun to be able to play in his sandbox here. He wrote up a great document with some notes about what makes this version of Banner/Hulk distinct, and that's been great. He also read the first outline for Hulkverines and tossed in a few thoughts, which were very helpful.

Charles Soule is still unpacking the mystery surrounding Logan in his Return of Wolverine miniseries. So, what can you tell us about your take on Logan in this series?

We're not going to spoil any mysteries Charles is building, but our story definitely fits into his continuity.

My take on Logan is pretty much the same as my take on Logan always is. He's a badass with a heart of gold who does what has to be done regardless of the cost to his own body and soul. In this story, we have the added bonus of his relationship with Banner. I always love seeing Logan and Banner together. They're very similar in some ways, struggling with a monster within. But they're so different in personality that they're a blast to write together. And now we get to play with both them and Clay -- and Clay's family -- which sets up some tremendous character beats that I can't wait for folks to see.

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What kind of state of mind is Weapon H in at the beginning of this series? How does Clay initially feel about having to tangle with the returned Hulk and Wolverine?

Without spoiling too much, at the beginning of this story, Clay and his family are in a pretty great place, actually! But of course complications ensue due to a certain classic Hulk villain that I'm having a massive amount of fun writing, but I can't yet reveal -- oh, you know what? I'm just gonna tell you. It's the Leader! I wrote a ton of Hulk stories over the years, but have only used the Leader a little, so it's a blast to let him cut loose here in a big, fun way.

We've touched upon this a little bit already, but what other teases can you give us about the action in Hulkverines? How big and brutal do things get?

I don't want to spoil too much, but we start in a kind of small, secret way. A bit like the classic Banner-on-the-run or Logan-on-the-road intrigue/mystery stories. And we build from there in increasingly big ways until a classically Weapon H-esque over-the-top finale in our third issue.

What's it like working with Weapon H artists Ario Anindito and Guiu Villanova on this book? It feels like a story that could be both incredibly work intensive and a lot of fun for your artists.

Ario and Guiu are both fantastic and are delivering killer pages. I love both of those artists because they clearly love the big action, the big emotion and the humor that's all essential to these Weapon H stories. We cut between small domestic moments with Clay and his wife and kids and massive fights with unbelievable monsters, and Ario and Guiu just knock it all out of the park.

I'm happy that these issues are all oversized -- 30 pages each! So we've got some room to let the action breathe and really play out, and I hope that's fun for Ario and Guiu as well.

Finally, does Hulkverines spin out of developments in January's Weapon H #12? I assume it's also very accessible for new readers as well, correct?

Yes, the story follows directly from Weapon H #12, so if you've been reading Weapon H, you definitely wanna get Hulkverines! At the same time, I'm writing the series so that you can jump on board for the very first time with Hulkverines and enjoy the heck out of it. So come on board!

I'd like to conclude by thanking all the readers who have supported this book and these characters from the beginning. I particularly appreciate all the folks who have responded so strongly to Clay's family -- his wife Sonia and the kids and Grandma. It can be rare to have a functional family in a superhero story, and I love that this domestic unit has resonated so much with readers. They're hugely fun to write, particularly in a book that otherwise involves so much over-the-top action.

Thanks so much and see you in Hulkverines!

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I know the link was already posted but i thought i just copy paste the whole thing here, full interview of Weapon H, Hulk and Logan mini-series.

Personally i am loving the fact that Pak is taking notes from Ewing on how this Hulk would act in certain situations, them working close together tells me Pak will stay true to this interpretation of the Hulk. From the rest of the interview i gather this is gonna be a fun mini-series big on action and character moments.

I am actually looking forward to this a lot now.

Seems like it's gonna solid overall. The entire story concept seems largely one-sided in terms of a battle with Hulk and Wolveirne, but we'll see. Also those last panels are meme-worthy.

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#1567 Posted by Thedailybagel (12653 posts) - - Show Bio

@intothevoid: I’m actually really hyped for this. Pak writing Banner and Hulk again is more than enough for me to get on board.

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#1568 Posted by phillip33 (3678 posts) - - Show Bio

Shaping up to be a great story!

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#1572 Edited by biswaboxz (3638 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94: Yeah It says that he is going to appear on second issue.

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#1573 Posted by medulaoblaganda (2156 posts) - - Show Bio

@intothevoid: I'm so hyped for this and the art looks amazing. This could tie into weapon-H ongoing series and Immortal Hulk might be featuring in Weapon-H. I can already tell the battle is gonna be bloody.

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#1574 Posted by PlatinumThorns (54 posts) - - Show Bio

Preview for issue #12 is out: https://www.newsarama.com/43526-you-won-t-like-that-bruce-banner-kid-when-he-s-angry-in-immortal-hulk-12-preview.html

It doesn't work on chrome atm, so you have to use another browser

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#1575 Posted by Thedailybagel (12653 posts) - - Show Bio

That preview of issue 12 broke my heart man. Poor banner.

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#1577 Posted by IntoTheVoid (1295 posts) - - Show Bio

Good preview, really heartbreaking for you Bruce. It's good to see Al tackle that specific period of Bruce's life, maybe he can expand even more on it than PAD did.

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#1579 Posted by IntoTheVoid (1295 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Yes someone already posted it above, but here https://www.newsarama.com/43526-you-won-t-like-that-bruce-banner-kid-when-he-s-angry-in-immortal-hulk-12-preview.html

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#1581 Edited by biswaboxz (3638 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm...... Looks really good and the art has been impressive as always. I feel Bruce's dark past with his father kinda of having similarities Brock's past that was shown on the last issue.

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#1582 Posted by IntoTheVoid (1295 posts) - - Show Bio
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Some previews of the upcoming issues with Doc Samson i would presume.